Super Aguri sold.

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it sucks that Takuma Sato is caught up in this drama :indiff: best of wishes for Super Aguri

Well lets hope Sato goes back to Honda when Barrichello retires or get a drive somewhere ;) No, I don't want to see SA go like this, and worse of all, they may not even make it to Barcelona.... :(
 
Terrible news. If they pull through, it won't be as Aguri...


Looks like Qualifying will have to be changed. The Top 10 shootout is dead, long live the Top 8 shootout!
 
Looks like Qualifying will have to be changed.

IIRC the sporting regulations took into account that the size of the grid may change, so in the case of a 20 car grid the last 5 will be knocked out of the initial two sessions.
 
Figured this was relevant...

Super Aguri locked out
Financially troubled team denied access to Istanbul paddock

Last updated: 5th May 2008

Super Aguri's hopes of taking part in the Turkish Grand Prix have been dealt a major blow after their trucks and motorhome were denied permission to enter the Istanbul circuit.


Full Story on SkySports
 
Oh wow, that is something. How do they manage to get locked out is amazing! I thought they won't even show up! :dunce: But I'm wondering what ever happened to the Magma Group deal, whether it had broken down or somehow manage to team up with the Weigl Group in a bid to buy SA. But yeah, its serious trouble for SA and the rest of the team..... :guilty: More news from GPUpdate:

D-Day looms for Super Aguri's saviour in waiting
An interview with Takuma Sato
 
It's over. :(

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67170

Super Aguri have withdrawn from the Formula One world championship with immediate effect, the team announced on Wednesday.

After weeks of speculation about their future following the collapse of a proposed takeover by the Magma Group, a last-minute rescue package by German automotive company Weigl Group was not good enough to keep them racing.

Team principal Aguri Suzuki is understood to have met with the Honda board in Japan on Tuesday, but the outcome of that meeting was that the team will no longer be racing.

"In order to realise my dream to become an owner of a Formula One team, I applied for a grid position in the FIA Formula One World Championship in November 2005," said Suzuki in a statement issued by the team. "Since then, I have participated in the championship for two years and four months as the Super Aguri F1 Team, but regretfully I must inform you that the team will cease their racing activities as of today."

Suzuki made it clear that the current difficulties for the team were caused by the non-payment of major sponsor SS United last year, which put the team on the back foot regarding their financial situation.

"The team competed against the many car manufacturer-backed teams and have succeeded in obtaining the first points after only the 22nd race finishing in ninth place overall in the 2007 constructors' championship.

"However, the breach of contract by the promised partner SS United Oil & Gas Company resulted in the loss of financial backing and immediately put the team into financial difficulties. Also, the change in direction of the environment surrounding the team, in terms of the use of customer chassis, has affected our ability to find partners.

"Meanwhile, with the help of Honda, we have somehow managed to keep the team going, but we find it difficult to establish a way to continue the activities in the future within the environment surrounding F1 and as a result, I have concluded to withdraw from the championship.

"I would like to express my deepest thanks to Honda, Bridgestone, the sponsors, all the people who have given us advise during various situations over the past couple of years all the Team Staff who have kept their motivations high and always done their best, Anthony Davidson who has always pushed to the limit despite the very difficult conditions, Takuma Sato who has been with us from the very start and has always fought hard and led the team and lastly our fans from all over the world who have loyally supported the Super Aguri F1 Team."

Super Aguri made their debut in 2006, having been formed with assistance from Honda in a bid to keep Takuma Sato in F1. They scored their first world championship points at the 2007 Spanish Grand Prix, and finished ninth in last year's constructors' championship.

The team's withdrawal leaves F1 with only 10 teams now, with the grid originally having supposed to have had 12 outfits at the start of this year before the collapse of Prodrive's entry.
 
That was fast. So much for the rescue of the Weigl Group.
R.I.P. Super Aguri :(
 
Hopefully SS United will get sued so badly, how can a company get away from not paying? Its bad that 2 less cars on the grid but super aguri did not seem capable of standing on their own feat (financially).

Still only 20 cars and no takuma sato :(
 
I little part in me just died. Super Aguri were the first team I actively followed, and the first team I watched, at last year's Canadian GP. Sadly, it appears that Sato's impressive feat there will not repeat itself, ever. :(

Hopefully SS United will get sued so badly, how can a company get away from not paying? Its bad that 2 less cars on the grid but super aguri did not seem capable of standing on their own feat (financially).

Still only 20 cars and no takuma sato :(

I wish, but SS United appears to be just some fake company. I haven't found one mention of them anywhere outside the Aguri-sponsorship deal, and Wikipedia states their website went offline just after news broke that they didn't pay to Aguri.
 
That's a big shame, I had hoped they'd get their rescue for the British interest (Davidson) more than anything else. I can understand the reasons for jacking it in, guess it was always going to be a likely outcome when when buyer had already pulled out who was previously "very interested in rescuing the team"... There's bound to be another team or two that comes in in future, maybe the likes of Sato and Davidson could get picked up again, who knows.

As for SS. Supposedly they were taking them, or starting the proceedings, to take them to court in August of last year though most sources say SS United only "claimed" to be an Oil & Gas company so they do indeed seem to have just been in it for a laugh and don't exist as a company.
 
Thats a strange story about SS United, Super Aguri did not do their research?
 
Weigl's last minute bid failed, which is obviously what led to it I reckon.

Honda Racing have expressed its disappointment over Super Aguri's withdrawal from Forumla One.

Super Aguri were forced to "cease their racing activities" on Tuesday after a last-minute takeover bid from the Weigl Group collapsed.

Honda, who supported Super Aguri since its establishment in 2005, admit the Japanese team's withdrawal was "inevitable".

A statement from Honda read: "At the beginning of the 2008 season, when the team started negotiations with the strong candidate Magma Group, Honda has actively co-operated by proposing many forms of support. Just when we thought the three groups have reached an agreement, we were told that Magma and their financial backers had decided not to pursue the deal.

"Honda has continued to support the team as much as possible but Aguri Suzuki has come to Honda and expressed his decision to withdraw from Formula One as he is not capable of establishing a foundation for independent operation of the team.

"The Super Aguri F1 Team's withdrawal is indeed very disappointing for us but we understand that it was inevitable unless the team could find a way to stand alone by itself in the future.

"We would like to express our thankfulness to the Super Aguri F1 Team and all the fans who have supported them for sharing the dreams and fighting together with Honda."
 
It's like the "Shannon Racing" and Forti...all over again.

Farewell, Super Aguri; at least you weren't as bad as Life, Andrea Moda, or ATS, to name but a few.
 
This kinda sucks but to be honest that team wasnt going anywhere... I still don't see why teams even bother at the back...
 
... I still don't see why teams even bother at the back...

Cant blame them for trying. Maybe they try in the hopse that they can one day be a "somewhat" sucessful private team, like williams and sauber.
 
Cant blame them for trying. Maybe they try in the hopse that they can one day be a "somewhat" sucessful private team, like williams and sauber.

Yeah but racing has become somewhat clinical and the teams with the big budgets do the best, gone are the days of it been anyones game although they are trying to bring more of that element back by banning this and that... Only then can any team stand a chance of winning and becoming successful.

But I agree, it was good that they tried like many others have... its just going to be an even more lonely grid..

Robin
 
I'm sure Sato will find a home. But not being able to even contend for the drivers' championship (yeah they had no chance, but they were there!) must really suck.
 
This kinda sucks but to be honest that team wasnt going anywhere... I still don't see why teams even bother at the back...

My sentiments exactly, and if you can't afford good drivers you'll get nowhere. Sato, Ide? For guys that were perennial backmarkers they sure were involved in alot of crashes. I like an underdog but Aguri just sucked.
 
you two do realize that Super Aguri was built mainly for sato(which is a good driver) and that a rookie team from 2006 wont dominate half billion dollar programs like ferrari, mclaren & williams?
 
My sentiments exactly, and if you can't afford good drivers you'll get nowhere. Sato, Ide? For guys that were perennial backmarkers they sure were involved in alot of crashes. I like an underdog but Aguri just sucked.
So why don't we just cut ot every other team and only have Ferrari, BMW and McLaren show up to races?
 
This kinda sucks but to be honest that team wasnt going anywhere... I still don't see why teams even bother at the back...
Hey, at least they got somewhere last year! They can be a good team just like Jordan and Williams, but they had a limited budget and sponsors not paying up really screwed them of any hope for success! There is a reason why these teams exists, and you should know better yourself......

My sentiments exactly, and if you can't afford good drivers you'll get nowhere. Sato, Ide? For guys that were perennial backmarkers they sure were involved in alot of crashes. I like an underdog but Aguri just sucked.
Sato is not the same guy he was a few years ago. He has matured a lot recently and has done outstandingly performed his best with a machine like SA (remember the overtake on Alonso at Canada?) Just give him a better car now (or give him a drive) and he will perform..... But I totally agree on Ide, hes useless. :p

you two do realize that Super Aguri was built mainly for sato(which is a good driver) and that a rookie team from 2006 wont dominate half billion dollar programs like ferrari, mclaren & williams?
True that mate! You really have to wonder how much an asset Sato is to Honda, that even Honda made another team just for him to get his experience. Well if Barrichello is anything to go by, maybe Sato is replacing him when he retires at the end of the year..... 👍

Well since SA left, is the empty spot going to get filled in for next year? Which team would you think is gonna enter F1 now? I don't know if the recent bidders still want to enter F1, but its really something to look forward to, maybe SA would make a comeback with a new team owner and still retain their quality as a team...... :)
 
Hey, at least they got somewhere last year! They can be a good team just like Jordan and Williams, but they had a limited budget and sponsors not paying up really screwed them of any hope for success! There is a reason why these teams exists, and you should know better yourself......

You didnt read the post I made after that one.
 
I was surprised Super Aguri made it through the first half-season of '06; they had a 4-year-old car, and although Yuji Ide wasn't the most talented driver, they benefited from the experience of Sato.

They scraped onto back of the grids, but their times were only off by a few tenths or hundredths of a second...they weren't several seconds slower than the rest. The cars were generally reliable, they presented themselves well, didn't beg for special favors from the FIA to jump into F1. Honda helped them out as much as possible, but you've got to have a lot of money to keep up with the rest of the circus in this sport.

As I said before, there's lots of teams that have performed worse in Formula One; some team owners or principals have made a mockery of the sport, or were just enthusiastic individuals that were looking for a challenge or a chance to complete on the highest level. There's about 100-110 constructors that have competed in F1, and many more entrants from the "privateer" days of Grand Prix racing...Only ten teams remain

Edit: thanks, Blake.
 
Well since SA left, is the empty spot going to get filled in for next year? Which team would you think is gonna enter F1 now? I don't know if the recent bidders still want to enter F1, but its really something to look forward to, maybe SA would make a comeback with a new team owner and still retain their quality as a team...... :)

I can't imagine anyone will be particularly keen on getting into F1 right now. With the current financial climate, the U-turn on customer cars, and seeing how much the likes of Toyota have spent to get merely midfield, I'd be very suprised if anyone wants to take the plunge. I also don't expect anyone to be particularly keen on buying Toro Rosso for the same reasons.
 
Roo
I also don't expect anyone to be particularly keen on buying Toro Rosso for the same reasons.

Didn't BMW buy out Sauber when they were in a similar position? ;) There's hope yet.
 
im hearing that champ car teams that didn't make the jump into the new indy/champ car Reunification are having a look at Toro Rosso. im sure they'll find buyers
 
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