Super Mega Fast Time Trial Attack: Rivals At The Ring!!!

[Kent]

Sorry about that bhawk.

I would love to make everyone happy.
Often times I would love to just make some people happy.

However, seems I can't do that too well.

So adjustment is what I do instead.

Sorry again.
Promise I will not let it happen again.

 

[Luxy]

I suppose I should have just stayed out of the OLR creation buisness... Looks like the frustrations I found in other places just keep popping up no matter what I do.
(just comes back to me having bad taste )

In any case, all I ask is that "real life" is never mentioned here again.

Real life is one thing I play games to get away from.

Sorry, Kent. I didn't mean to criticize you super-moderatin' skills You do a bang up job of it 👍 I was just having trouble driving anything faster than my Fiat 500 I'm just not very good at driving anything fast these days. For the record, I found the combo quite fun, too (although I was pretty frustrated last night after 2hrs and no clean lap ). It was just that one corner that I couldn't wrap my head around. If you want to keep it on R5's, that's cool with me. It'll just take me longer to get a time to ya

@bhawk ... just curious bryan, what sort of time did you manage in the RGT? Did you have trouble at pflanzgarten II also?

 

[Lotrzyna]

On RSS (with EVO of course) i had problems only on one turn - sorry i do not rember its name - its the 2 right turn after bridge - if i was breaking there to hard car got crazy but "soft" breaking shaved me alot of time.. unfortunately i couldnt make it to frequently :/ And BTW i also have nothing against RSS - its nice to drive on them since every one is crazy about road tyres, hard and medium sport tyres - its nice change to drive on RSS from time to time but the rules are changed so now we run on RH.
Sorry 4 my poor english - not to much practise with it lately :/

EDIT: LOL rules are changed but not for EVO

 

[Young_Warrior]

my time so far for the m3 gtr is a 7.05.xxx
Overall im faster in the m3 gtr but on some bits of the race the rgt is faster. I think once I fiddle with the rgt setup I it will be faster than the m3.

 

[bhawk776]

Ok I'm back with R2's on the Ruf

RUF RGT '00

-Racing Hard Tires
-Oil Change
-Weight Reduction Stage 3
-Engine Balancing
-Port & Polish
-NA Tuning Stage 2
-Racing Exhaust
-Racing Brakes
-Semi-Racing Suspension
-Twin-plate Clutch
-No driving aids

Suspension settings:
Springs: Front 7.8 - Rear 9.6
Ride Height: Front 68 - Rear 78
Shock Absorbers: Front 3 - Rear 3
Camber Angle: Front 2.8 - 1.0

Official Time Submission*: 6'47.011

@bhawk ... just curious bryan, what sort of time did you manage in the RGT? Did you have trouble at pflanzgarten II also?

Do you always have to stir up trouble Luke? j/k

I'm don't know the names of the corners so I took a couple of pics of the corner that I think you are talking about. I have a track map but it doesn't show that corner If it is the corner in the pics then yes I'm having problems there. With R5's on the RUF I was slowing to 115mph before the crest. Let me know if this is the corner......... if you can tell from the pics.

Clean Lap with R5's on the RUF: 6'28.564

 

[Kent]

(ignoring my "duties" related to the post)

That's an awesome post bhawk.
Really I just liked to see you put in times with both tires, and give great little pictures. 👍
Wish I had picture taking capabilities at the time.
But that was cool to see you use those shots.

Also, I will get your time into the display soon. 👍
Makes me wonder what I was running when I originally setup my RGT like that.

Btw, don't know if you all enjoy it or not but I love the semi-racing parts in this game. They simplify things and keep costs down.

I'm headed off to run a few laps,
will be around most of the night...
Later.

PS. I got into the rgt with S3s today.
PPs. I put down an 8'01.??? in the celica today... Hope to improve atleast '01.???

 

[bhawk776]

Thanks for the kind words Kent

To answer your question about the semi-racing parts, I do like them. I fact I've been using them alot more lately but not because of them being cheaper , Seriously though I was using the full racing parts alot but I've found that I enjoy the using the semi-racing parts just as much. I've even been racing with stock cars lately for 200 a-spec points, found here

I don't care for FF that much but since I see that you're drivin the Celica, Kent, I guess I'll take the Integra out for a spin.

 

[Luxy]

@bhawk, yep that turn in the picture is pflanzgarten II (the planzgarten I is the jump and sharp right just before that). That one was killing me. I managed to hit it flat out once, but ended up getting all crossed up in the cambers in the next fast section I imagine it's better on the R2's? 6:28's a nice run, btw 👍 👍 👍

@kent, semi-racing stuff is awsome! Put a semi-racing suspension on a miata, and it's a whole new car I've been racing an RS200 a lot lately, which comes with semi-racing ... it gives you just the right amount of control. I like using the 2-way LSD

 

[Kent]

Hey all,

I will get an update in later today/ tonight (for the lap times).

I've also taken the time to start working on the Celica.
Pulled it down to 7'57.??? or 7'58.???
Think it was 7'57.2 for some reason.

In any case, I was suprised as hell by the Celica's handling and power out-put. 👍

Also, I have another combo for us.
It's another Sport tires setup.
Specifically it is a Nismo 270R .vs. Mugen S2000

Both can be tuned to nearly the exact same specs since both weigh the same amount after a full light weight in Arcade mode.
I will come back with specifics for that race when I come back with my Celica time and do any updates that are needed for the lap times.

Thanks again for the participation everyone.

 

[Iceman]

This looks cool Kent, I'm about to have a quick run in the WRX

 

[Kent]

Ok, ...

Glad to see you drop in ice.

bhawk, your time in the RGT has been added.

I've also edited to the first post to clean it up a bit (hopefully).

On top of that, I've added a new race.
The Mugen S2000 versus the Nismo 270R.
Arcade mode with the exact same weight and only 1 hp difference.

Hope a few of you guys try that out and let me know if the laps are close to even.

I tested both and the 270R seems to have a bit more slide in the rear-end.
The mugen grips like crazy but I'm not sure about its torque compared the Nismo.

Also, I've finished another lap in the Celica.
Not as fast as the previous but clean for sure. 👍
Catch you all around.
Later.

 

[Iceman]

That's a nice time in the Celica you've got Kent 👍

I gave it a lap this morning and managed an 8'01. That s2000 looks like fun

 

[Lotrzyna]

( i couldnt get eny better time with evo (im steel rtying) but as far as see there is some arcade mode competition - i will try it soon (i will get my evo to max...)

 

[Kent]

I'm about to post another combo too.

Thanks though, maybe I will run that Celica one more time and try to get rid of those final few seconds.

In any case though... I have a new race with a Celica.
Another front wheel drive?

But no, this is a fun race.
WEDSSPORT Celica .vs. Amemiya RX7
Specs (including pwr) will be posted on the first page.
(this is another arcade match up too)

Later and best of luck to all you runners.

 

[Kent]

I know this is a double post...
However, with progress and T times to list I thought this was worthy of a real post. (although there is still nothing to justify triple posting )

TRD Celica: 7'56.948
T1: 0'49.737
T2: 1'27.798
T3: 1'59.297
T4: 2'55.446
T5: 3'38.686
T6: 4'10.287
T7: 5'06.970
T8: 5'53.270
T9: 6'17.821
10: 7'05.003
11: 7'32.127
-Final Time: 7'56.948-

Clean based on BC5 rules but still not good enough for me.
Hope that helps any of you running the FF comp.

Back later, till then,
-Kent

 

[Iceman]

Hit a pretty good one in the Wedssport Celica, and was clean too:

6'24.895

T1: 39.128
T2: 1'10.533
T3: 1'36.245
T4: 2'20.499
T5: 2'55.456
T6: 3'21.904
T7: 4'05.871
T8: 4'42.131
T9: 5'01.605
T10: 5'39.979
T11: 6'04.135

 

[Kent]

Well...

Ice and I have been doing some testing. 👍

The mugen vs nismo is out.
We both ran and with Ice in the nismo, and myself in the mugen there was no contest.
Even Ice's skills couldn't bring the Nismo to a victory against the mugen.

So, please note that the factory tuned cars have been removed.
Not to worry though, Ice and I are working on another combo.

Be patient and we will have one in no time. 👍

 

[ls2_297]

just had a quick run in the WRX... everything was pretty much 2nd tier tuning... no racing parts!... ran 3 laps in total, best was the last one at 6'54.965, still have a lot of improving to do, did more drifting then actual racing as the WRX is very tailk happy.

 

[Lotrzyna]

Were the settings for Wedssport Celica already posted ? i cant find them :/ on basic setup my best was 6'45.840 - RSS, after about 2 laps so tgere is alot of place to improve...
To Iceman - my best T1 was 41.800 - your 39.~~ looks amazing...

 

[Kent]

Actually, sorry about this villian but...

The Celica / RX7 race has been cancelled.

After much testing and even more help from Iceman it became clear that the RX7 was not at all capable of matching the Celica.

That would leave no room for being "Rivals" and so it would not be a fitting race for this thread.

Sorry about that.
Maybe in time I will find another race to replace it since it would be nice to have one racecar based race up there. 👍

 

[Puck927]

Was running the FF with the Integra Type R. Was hanging with you in the Celica Kent until about T7, messed up the karousel and had a small off after that. Ended up running a 8:09, I'll try to get below 8 mins with a clean run and catch up to ya later .

 

[Kent]

Well that sounds cool.
Best of luck puck.

Any help I can give you will be gladly given.

Now I'm wondering, are there any particular races you all would like to see?
Something that doesn't fit into the same category as the other races we have.

I would love to get atleast/ just one good race with a racecar.
Something on super soft racing tires and enough power to keep us interested without pushing us off the track.

JGTC would probably be a good place to start... Maybe an open race with only specs to decide what you use?
Something like 500 hp max and 1100 kg min?
If we did something like that I would certainly list the car used as well as the specs. 👍

Anyway, let me know what you all think and don't hesitate to post any submissions.

 

[Young_Warrior]

1000hp max minium weight 1050 kg.

That will allow for all jgtc dtm and viper and vette race cars to go against one another and the bmw m3 gtr aswell. They will each have around similiar howrsepower and similiar weight. So all down to driver skill really.

 

[Kent]

You may want to look into that.

Allowing that much room will certainly leave atleast one car far more capable than the rest.

Plus, I'm looking to make it an arcade run for the sake of saving money as well as tuning ease.
Getting similar pwr is a good start, but getting nearly the same pwr is a better start.

Also, I want to leave settings out of a race like that.
Tuning for the lap might take far more time than the lap itself. Plus, I would really like to give everyone an even chance with cars at that level... Tuning a semi-racing suspension on a street car is one thing, tuning a fully customizable racing suspsension on a 1000hp racecar is totally different.

I like the idea behind your comment though...
Leaving a great deal of room for car selection may give us the chance to really play around with the cars and in the end, hopefully give us an idea of just which cars have what strengths.

So to wrap up...
Arcade mode preffered.
Moderate power levels.
Nearly dead even pwr.

That's a tall order, I know.
However, I am sure that with a bit of testing and a bit of patience we can find a great combo. 👍

Btw, doing 1040kg min and 550hp max in arcade would make these cars availible (but not limited to these cars)...
Ford GT, Oreca Viper, C5-R, NSX-R LM, 350Z LM, RX7 LM, McLaren F1 GTR, Zonda LM, Nissan GT-R LM, RX8 LM... And many others of course.
(probably a bunch of the JGTC rides 👍 )

 

[CFM]

Hi Kent, nice idea you've got here.👍 I just got done running some laps with the TRD Celica and came up with a 7'54.954. (Official) Tricky little SOB to drive, but a fun challenge none the less. I kinda messed up from T1 to T3 a bit, and also missed a shift at a critical point, so another second or more could come off with more seat time. Might give it another try tomoz.


For some ideas for this race, a classic matchup with the '05 Mustang and one of the 4th Gen Camaros would probably work out since there are two different 4th Gens in the game. There's a '97 Z28, and the '00 SS. One should be able to be tuned somewhere very close to the Mustang. Haven't tried it yet but if I get a chance I'll let you know how it comes out.

Edit: I fiddled around with the pair of ponycars, and they stack up like this:

'97 Camaro Z28: +20HP, -10%kg = 341HP, 1404kg = 4.117 pwr
'05 Mustang GT: +17HP, -10%kg = 344HP, 1411kg = 4.102 pwr

Don't know how competitive they will be against each other, but it's a good starting point. The Camaro is probably geared poorly compared to the Mustang, but has more torque. So maybe it would be close...

...but we all know the Small Block Chevy is better.

 

[Kent]

Hey CFM!

Glad you enjoyed the combo.
Even happier that someone put down a time to make me go back and work harder.
(yeah right, I loved looking fast for a moment
Just kidding with you. )

I'm putting your time down in the records as soon as I finish this post. 👍

Also, thanks for a taking a look into those American cars.
Ice and I were looking for American muscle to throw into the battle but we haven't found anything we are happy with just yet.

Testing this combo will be my first priority since I've recently had a nice refresher course on why PWR isn't enough info when trying to setup an even match...
I'm still mad about how close the RX7 and Celica were in stats, yet how far apart they were in the actual racing.

With luck we should have a nice combo up sometime in the near future. 👍

Btw, you know what American combo I just realized might be a great one?
Z06 vs Mustang SVT Cobra R

 

[Iceman]

I'd like to see an LMP Arcade battle, maybe between the Pescarolos, BMW LMR and possibly the Audi R8 if it isn't too far ahead.

 

[Iceman]

The Bentley Speed 8 and Audi R8 are fairly close at stock HP and -10 weight. The Bentley is slower on the straights but in the right hands it is even with the R8.

 

[CFM]

Trimmed down my Celica TRD run to a tidy 7'53.624.👍 I know I can get a 7'52 but it would take a mighty effort as I'm just not that good at this damn game to run a whole lap without a few mistakes!

Loking forward to another arcade matchup here.

 

[Puck927]

If you're looking for race cars, I'd have to second the vote for the M3 GTR Race Car, it's absolutely perfect on the 'Ring. But of course JGTC cars would probably work as well. LMP's are helped by the extra weight they carry, and they are fast, but I'm not really crazy about them on this track.