supra engined s2000

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

 

[Perfect Balance]

Way to screw up the weight balance. And he gave up a engine that revs to 9,000 rpms for a turbo.

 

[-Fred-]

He also gave up 160lb-ft at 6000rpm for... god knows how much. The engine sits pretty far in the bay, much like the original F20C, so balance can't be screwed THAT much.

People have been putting K20's in MR-S for a while, I guess this is payback...

 

[Perfect Balance]

He also gave up 160lb-ft at 6000rpm for... god knows how much.

The S2000 wasn't meant to be a dragster, otherwise I wouldn't say anything.

That car was made for handling, and they made it into a drag car.(not literally) Then it becomes only decent for either. I'm not saying it's a slow car, its just now, there are better cars for what they did.

 

[Azuremen]

He also gave up 160lb-ft at 6000rpm for... god knows how much. The engine sits pretty far in the bay, much like the original F20C, so balance can't be screwed THAT much.

People have been putting K20's in MR-S for a while, I guess this is payback...

Damn straight us Toyota people need some revenge. Though these guys sound more like morons between the soundtrack they used and the way they talk...

Seriously, torque is nice. Even a 3sgte would be better off I think than the f20c.

And on those MR-S K20's... I remember reading about one in Super Street (I do not normally look in that magazine except to laugh at rice) and they said the swap just dropped right in, nice and easy. After some engine mounts and tranny mounts were fabricated. Yeah, just dropped right now

Retards.

 

[Revheadnz]

That is great, coolest swap I've seen in ages. The F20C works pretty well in the S2K but the power and torque numbers available from a near-stock 2JZ are considerably higher than one could get from a more modified F20C.

And taking the "crappo" rota out of the RX7 to replace it with another 2JZ? Inspired thinking. This guy deserves an award. Finally combines the good looks of the RX7 with an engine that will actually make power AND torque and doesn't need to be rebuilt every 3 months.

 

[Leonidae]

Mazda's 20B rotary would had been better solution IMO. but thank god that they didn't put in a pushrod horror like some numbskulls did to an RX-7. I know, creativity is good, but for pete's sake.. so much about the handling.

 

[Azuremen]

I've actually read some roadtests on those LS1 RX-7's. Apparently they still handle pretty damn well, dun ask me how, but they do.

 

[-Fred-]

I've actually read some roadtests on those LS1 RX-7's. Apparently they still handle pretty damn well, dun ask me how, but they do.

The LSx is incredibly light, lighter than an RB26 or 2JZ, to put it into perspective. It's also fairly compact, for a 6.0l engine anyway, and as such doesn't mess the balance at all. As far as handling... well, the RX7 is still one of the best handling car out there, you know. It handles great, it looks good, and now, with a swap like that, it's reliable! What more could you want?

 

[Perfect Balance]

And on those MR-S K20's... I remember reading about one in Super Street (I do not normally look in that magazine except to laugh at rice)

Why do people bash on Super Street so much. They feature all the new D1 cars, they were the first to have Top Secret and Top Fuel in their magazines, they had cars by JUN and the HKS time attack Evo, and the Signal Auto skylines. They had cars by Spoon sports. They always have some ricer cars, but way less than import tuner or modified mag and stuff like that. I always check up on magazines when I go to stores, and Super Street always seems to have the best overall cars.

 

[-Fred-]

[ThreadJack!]

IMO, it's the writing that really sucks with Super Street. Most of the cars are pretty nice nowadays, certainly better than they were 5-6 years ago, but the writing is just... retarded. It's like a bunch of high school kids threw the thing together, even their "tech" articles are annoying. I've never learnt anything by reading that mag, it's just a form of entertainment... unlike say, SCC, Turbo, D-Sport and Grassroots Motorsports.

[/ThreadJack!]

 

[Jay]

Mazda's 20B rotary would had been better solution IMO.

Ah, so you're saying replace the stock high revving low torque motor with a much less reliable high revving low torque motor.

 

[Azuremen]

Pretty much exactly what Fred said.

I just remember reading about how cool it was that a guy stuck MR2 Turbo sidevents on his DC2 Integra. Pointless mod indeed.

SCC and Grassroots are what I prefer.

BTW

Mike had the car shipped to R Crew, located in the San Francisco Bay Area of California where they got the first K20-powered MR2 Spyder in the US up and running. The engine dropped in perfectly of course, after fabricating engine mounts that weren’t far off from the factory mounting points. R Crew also figured out how to use a complete factory Integra Type R drivetrain by adding a Hasport transmission mount, whereas the Half Way conversion uses a custom bell-housing to get it working.

Not exactly the greatest of writing.

Its a nice looking car though. Here is a link to the full article.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/fe..._mr2_spyder_spyder_k2o_engine_swap/index.html

But since they still have things like this slide in from time to time.
http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredvehicles/custom_1996_honda_civic_hatchback_tuner_car/
With the horrible writing that goes with it, kinda makes me want to kill SuperStreet.

 

[JCE]

Sorry, but my response is: "At the end of the day its still an S2000".

 

[Omnis]

My response is, "You forgot to tell us your address!"

 

[Leonidae]

Ah, so you're saying replace the stock high revving low torque motor with a much less reliable high revving low torque motor.

well duh.. any engine is unreliable if you don't know how to take care of it. and 20B produces as much power as stock S2K, if not more, and that's without twinturbos. with twinturbos, it's performance figures are quite much equal to other twinturbocars of that era. (R32 GT-R etc)

 

[Jay]

well duh.. any engine is unreliable if you don't know how to take care of it. and 20B produces as much power as stock S2K, if not more, and that's without twinturbos. with twinturbos, it's performance figures are quite much equal to other twinturbocars of that era. (R32 GT-R etc)

It was a joke, don't take it so serious.

 

[Perfect Balance]

It was a joke, don't take it so serious.

Joke or not, it's still quite true. It doesn't matter if you take care of it or not, a rotary engine just can't compare with Honda when it comes to reliability.

But I still like a rotary more.

 

[Jim Prower]

I don't think i'd do a swap on an S2K. If I had to, though, I might go with an NSX mill. Perhaps a Smallblock where the passenger seat is supposed to be.

((Last suggestion=nuts. ignore))

 

[socomplayer2]

a bit weird car/engine combination, but cool nontheless

 

[Carlos]

it's cool, but i really would prefer VTEC.. screw turbo

 

[Leonidae]

Honda's reliable? what about the valves? heard that in some V-TEC engines those give up pretty quickly.

 

[toyomatt84]

Engineering prowess - 👍👍
Overall Project - 👎

 

[Bram Turismo]

Weird? An awesome combination, ok, the weight balance might be a little off but such a light car powered by the best turbo engine from Japan? Come on, just hear how fast it is

And what's so VTEC cool? The only thing they do is revving up to 9,000 rpm but from that, they're just the same as any other engine...

 

[Azuremen]

Weird? An awesome combination, ok, the weight balance might be a little off but such a light car powered by the best turbo engine from Japan? Come on, just hear how fast it is

And what's so VTEC cool? The only thing they do is revving up to 9,000 rpm but from that, they're just the same as any other engine...

Thought I might help on the VTEC question. On the performance Vtec, the cams have two lobes per valve, and at the VTEC point, an actuator moves the cam over I believe, switching to a higher lift cam lobe.

The result is better low end performance and drivablity, while still giving the benefit of high RPM breathing and such. Its a pretty smart setup, but because the engines make power because of high RPMs, they are generally low on torque, sicne HP is a product of torque at a certain rpm.

 

[Bram Turismo]

+Rep for that one 👍

But I still prefer a 2JZ-GTE, I would take a 3S-GTE over any VTEC as well any time 👍