Supra

[Kyle2k]

that would be a good idea but way to expensive

 

[Kyle2k]

I guess the question I wanted to get back to is, does the tubo kit coem with a blow off valve or would I have to by it seperatly?

 

[Duke]

Then why don't you bloody ask someone who makes turbo kits for Supras instead of a bunch of amateurs car enthusiasts on a Gran Turismo site? Why in the name of trees would I ask you guys if my new TV will support multiple S-video inputs? I wouldn't! I'd ask - gasp - Sony! The people who made it!
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I mean, cheese-and-rice! It's just not that hard! There have to be a dozen websites dedicated to Supras. If not, start on the forum of a real car magazine. Try www.grmotorsports.com , fer crying out loud, or anything related to the actual subject.

It would help if you had something remotely like realistic expectations, too.

 

[ShobThaBob]

Or MAYBE you just arent ready for a TT supra. You cant afford one, you're too thick to realize that its not a bolt-on, and you expect us to do your work for you.

 

[Josh]

Supra's suck. Buy a Civic. They're like a bajillion times faster.


Anyhoo. Turboing the N/A 2JZ-GE is beyond retarted. Buying an N/A MKIV, and swapping a 2JZ-GTE(and necessary tranny) into it is even more retarted. Sell the car, or don't buy it to begin with, and get a MKIV TT. That's all there is to it.

 

[Kyle2k]

Ive never met so many people **** their pants about little things, you guys have to be the whinniest adult/car enthuesiasts I have met, most people I ask around here are happy to help, and when they dont know something or i cant find it myself I come here **** it guys are a bunch of assholes, delete the god damn thread if it makes you happy

 

[Mike Rotch]

You asked, GTP answered. Dont get your knickers in a knot because we didnt tell you what you wanted to hear.

 

[Duke]

Originally posted by Mike Rotch

You asked, GTP answered. Dont get your knickers in a knot because we didnt tell you what you wanted to hear.

Precisely.

People here are happy to help those that try to help themselves. Face the facts: you'd be way overextended, you have no idea what you're doing or even talking about, and if by some miracle you manage to come out of this with a running car, I severely doubt your ability to drive it safely. What you are talking about doing is a tailor-made disaster.

Any project like this takes three ingredients: TIME, MONEY, and ABILITY. You can make up for missing any one of those three ingredients by at least doubling the amount of the other two you invest in the project.

If you don't have ability, you pay someone extra money to do it for you, and you take the time to have it done right.

If you don't have money, you better damn well know what you're doing and spend a lot of time getting it right.

If you don't have time, you pay a lot extra for rush work and you work hard on it yourself using your ability.

But it's almost impossible to overcome if you are missing two ingredients. The only one you have in any quantity is TIME, the least valuable, and you seem determined to waste that. So don't get all pissed off at us because we didn't say what you want to hear. Actually, forget it. I will just say what you want to hear:

Sure, people install turbos all the time, no problem! Buy the Supra and bolt on the turbo kit. It's a Japanese car, everybody knows how perfect and reliable they are, you won't screw it up. No problem, you'll be making 500 hp in no time.














Let us know how that works out for you.

 

[Gil]

Just out of curiosity, What's to keep you from building an all motor Supra. We are after all, talking about a 3.0 liter Six that makes the same HP as many 5.0 liter V-8's.
IMHO, it seems that if you want a "trailer queen" throw money at an NA Supra and convert it to a turbo.
Yes, turbos can be quite reliable, but for the most part they can be and are, finicky creatures with a propensity for burning motors into the ground, if not perfectly set-up and tuned.
I don't see it taking too much mechanical intervention, to start with an NA car and build it into a better NA car.
You'd still have a fairly rare car.
It would still be plenty fast enough for the daily, or weekend grind.
And it would likely not blow up in your face.

It seems to me that if you have found the car, and have the money to buy it, but not the money to wait for a TT Supra to come along, you don't have the money to convert an NA one to TT.
In post #16 you see the price of a proper conversion. Unless the Supra you are looking at is a complete dog, (or a MK3 or older model) You won't find that big a price difference between the NA and TT.
You've gotten some good advice thruout this thread. Even Klos was straight, and not condescening.(a forum rarity )
Be man enough to live with it.

You know, I've always wanted a white '56 porthole T-bird. I've seen many, but I've been able to purchase none of them.
Maybe, you are not destined to have a Supra, just as I haven't been destined to own a '56 T-bird. Life's like that sometimes.

(and suprisingly, I stayed nice and wasn't condescending once. I must be slipping )

 

[240Z freak]

Kyle2k, I am not trying to pick on you or anything, but doesn't this seem to be a symptom of new modifying culture? Just putting a turbo or nitrous in for the heck of it, and not really understanding how it will affect your drivability, performance, matinence etc. The vast majority of people my age just seem to say "Nawz it!" or "Turbo it!" whenever I talk about modifying cars to them. Personally, for a daily driven car, I would go with upgrading the suspension and/or just putting simple "bolt-on" mods. With something like a well made exhaust, header, intake, etc. and basic suspension mods, I feel that you will have more performance that you can actually use and enjoy in street driving.

 

[Kyle2k]

ok ok, everyone is right, I wake up to that kinda stuff though and it jsut ruins my day, im tired, I see that then boom, I talk before I think

Ill just tell everyone straight up, I have a bad temper, ok im sorry maybe I should read this stuff later in the day

ok, so ive thought, about insurance, and I have a new plan, but yet my google search has become frutiless, I need advice on putting stuff into a stock, automatic, supra this is what I have come up with

1. fluidyne radiator
2. performance spark plugs

So, can anyone make anymore non-turbo, or non-nitrouse solutions, also i was woundering if there would be any point putting an intercooler on when it doesnt have a turbo?

 

[Joey D]

why not look in to a supercharger? I know they are cheaped but I'm not sure if they make one for the supra.

 

[ShobThaBob]

i dont think they make one for the supra. You might look at some IS300 turbo kits, for you share the exact same 220hp I6 3.0.

 

[Gil]

Originally posted by Kyle2k
ok ok, everyone is right, I wake up to that kinda stuff though and it jsut ruins my day, im tired, I see that then boom, I talk before I think

Ill just tell everyone straight up, I have a bad temper, ok im sorry maybe I should read this stuff later in the day

ok, so ive thought, about insurance, and I have a new plan, but yet my google search has become frutiless, I need advice on putting stuff into a stock, automatic, supra this is what I have come up with

1. fluidyne radiator
2. performance spark plugs

So, can anyone make anymore non-turbo, or non-nitrouse solutions, also i was woundering if there would be any point putting an intercooler on when it doesnt have a turbo?

Check on the Import Tuner magazine web site. They may not have specific info. But, I expect they have a link to someone who does.

 

[I6-4-eva]

Kyle2k why dont you head on over to supraforums there's a section/forum devoted to what you are planing to do. N/A to turbo, all motor,Naws etc etc.

So, can anyone make anymore non-turbo, or non-nitrouse solutions, also i was woundering if there would be any point putting an intercooler on when it doesnt have a turbo?

I think you should visit http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm and learn the basics about a turbocharger.

 

[360rider]

i think you guys should jsut lay off the guy. He comes here asking for advice and instead of giving it to him you take advantage of his lack of knowledge on the subject. What kind of an adrenaline rush do you get by picking on people who dont understand what they're talking about. When i joined this forum was the same tiem i bought my camaro Z28. I didnt know jack **** about the car so i came here asking for advice. I was very ambitious; i wanted to pack as much HP into that engine as possible. I had the tiem, the money, but no ability. A couple guys gave me some ideas for mods and i made a list and took it to one of my cousins who owns a garage. I asked him to teach me how ot install it rather than doing it for me, and he did. I learned a lot about my car by asking people on gtp and im glad i came here. SO if your not going to give the guy advice you have no right to criticize him on his abilities.

 

[Duke]

Believe it or not, I'm not trying to criticize his (lack of) abilities. Nobody is born knowing anything; we all have to learn. I'm trying to get him to think, not just get a hard-on for a car he's seen in a magazine.

It's not really his lack of knowledge that got people irritated. It's his way of going about getting knowledge that's the problem.

 

[skylineGTR_guy]

Originally posted by neon_duke
Believe it or not, I'm not trying to criticize his (lack of) abilities. Nobody is born knowing anything; we all have to learn. I'm trying to get him to think, not just get a hard-on for a car he's seen in a magazine.

It's not really his lack of knowledge that got people irritated. It's his way of going about getting knowledge that's the problem.

My skyline knowledge come from reading books, magazines, owners manuals,repair manuals etc. However the best way I gained my knowledge is through talking to companies and people who actually own skylines (well the ones who actually know what the hell they are talking about). Recently I've been talking to Sean Morris alot. He used to work for motorex and knows TONS of stuff about skylines. When I head over to cali for a wedding I'm going to stop by and mess around with some GTRs

So if you want knowledge it takes work but the rewards are worth it

 

[360rider]

Originally posted by neon_duke
Believe it or not, I'm not trying to criticize his (lack of) abilities. Nobody is born knowing anything; we all have to learn. I'm trying to get him to think, not just get a hard-on for a car he's seen in a magazine.

It's not really his lack of knowledge that got people irritated. It's his way of going about getting knowledge that's the problem.

i understand.

 

[Kyle2k]

neon duke, you can say whatever you want but in all reality you and maybe 1 other person seems to be irritated

 

[Duke]

Actually, according to your own words, you were "catching hell from everybody".

 

[240Z freak]

*senses argument starting*

 

[Kyle2k]

im not gonna be a lame ass and use technicallities, say what i want to hear again and tell me you wont act gay and post here if your gonna start ****

 

[Duke]

 

[Gil]

Originally posted by Kyle2k
im not gonna be a lame ass and use technicallities, say what i want to hear again and tell me you wont act gay and post here if your gonna start ****

With that temper, you probably shouldn't have a Turbo anything! You'll likely end up a grease-spot on the road somewhere if someone says they don't like the color of your hub centers.

Learn to deal with your temper, or learn to take an ass-whippin'
cause that's what the real world will deal you.
Chill man. Sometimes people aren't going to see things the way you do. Sometimes they'll insult your taste. Sometimes they will tell you the stuff you did looks ridiculous.

Newsflash, You can either go off and likely get smacked down, or grin and say. "It's okay that you don't like it, cause it ain't yours."

You came and asked us if your idea was do-able. We told you that it was, but not terribly practical.
We gave you alternative solutions to your query.
We told you who to contact if you couldn't be disuaded from your course.

I guess now, we should build a turbo Supra each, with our own take on how it should be. Then we invite you over and let you pick one, and sell it to you for what we spent, plus $35/hr for labor. Actually, you probably want us to drive them over to house and drop them off? *MAJOR sarcasm tag*

I'll say it again,
One of the reasons we asked if you had done any searching of your own is so we wouldn't re-cover the same ground. However, you couldn't be bothered. Thanks for the courtesy. Thanks for the maturity! (more heavy sarcasm)
JERK!!

 

[quicksilver1122]

IMO, I don't think you know enough about cars to do what you want to do. And you're gona end up doing something you didn't want to do. I think you came here wanting us to tell you exactly how to modify your car, without having to do any work yourself. I'm sorry, but the instruction manual you want us to write isn't coming anytime soon.

My advise would be to start smaller.

 

[Kyle2k]

gil im not getting angry at anyone but neon, im trying to help myself, and im not trying to get everything, jsut minor suggestions you could ramble off, nothing that would require you to look up urself, just name soemthing off if you know, im getting pissy tho cuz neon duke cant let me be, and if he cant leave me alone, why should i let him off with it, really i mean, he shouldnt be posting here if he doesnt liek it

 

[Gil]

Originally posted by Kyle2k
gil im not getting angry at anyone but neon, im trying to help myself, and im not trying to get everything, jsut minor suggestions you could ramble off, nothing that would require you to look up urself, just name soemthing off if you know, im getting pissy tho cuz neon duke cant let me be, and if he cant leave me alone, why should i let him off with it, really i mean, he shouldnt be posting here if he doesnt liek it

He's come at you calmly, and maturely. Give him the same courtesy.
If you go back and rationally look at what he's said, you'll realize that he's trying to get you to expand your horizons, on your own.
He's trying to "teach you to fish" rather than "giving you a fish".

Everytime you've come at me, you've done it with a modicom of maturity. I appreciate that. Do it for everyone. We'll all appreciate it.

 

[Famine]

"Give a man a fish and he can eat that day. Teach a man to fish and he can eat for life. Until someone floods the river with mercury, and he dies of Parkinson's Disease"

Hmm. I need my morning cup of coffee...

 

[240Z freak]

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