Suzuka Circuit lap times for N-class Cars

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  1. praiano63

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    :lol::lol::cheers: I agree 100% , if only they could also send me a TGT :rolleyes::rolleyes: ... just to do a better job :lol: .
    I promess i will join the cars in the same half second / lap.

    Where do i have to sign ??
     
  2. VBR

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    When I win the Euro Millions, then I will buy PD & fire Kaz. After that the job's yours, free T-GT and all!



    ;)
     
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  3. MidFieldMaven

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    2:44.209 - Abarth 500 '09

    Less than 8 tenths slower than Mazda Roadster NA. It surprised me with its decent-for-a-FF cornering abilities.
     
  4. 88GTA

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    A guy around the block from me has an Abarth 500. They actually sound pretty mean for such a tiny car.
     
  5. MidFieldMaven

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    They do have a great sound. I was attending college 5 or 6 years ago and was walking to my MX-5 when I saw a guy come down the aisle in an Abarth. In fact I heard it before I saw him lol it sounded so good. We shared a few words about each other's car and I remember being quite jealous as he drove away. Though with all the reliability problems I hear about, I'm glad I stayed away. They can be purchased for so cheap though, figure around $10k or less for one with less than 50k miles last time I checked!
     
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    The US version have a different exhaust than the rest of the world, here you have to spec an option or go aftermarket to have the full mean sound.
     
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  7. MidFieldMaven

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    I just spent 35 minutes torturing myself, but in the name of science, it had to be done eventually.

    3:17.170 - Fiat 500 F '68

    33 seconds slower than the Abarth 500 '09. It stayed in 4th gear the whole time. Top speed is 71 mph, and thank goodness I could keep the accelerator floored without dealing with rev-bouncing on the straights.
     
  8. MidFieldMaven

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    2:26.784 - Hyundai Genesis 3.8 Coupe '13

    This car is like a mix of Mk4 Supra and Z33 Fairlady. It makes sense then that the Genesis splits the difference between those two cars.
     
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  9. MidFieldMaven

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    2:24.199 - Alfa Romeo 4C '14

    Not the easiest car to drive. Turbocharged, short wheelbase, MR...Blindingly fast, though. It's 5.5 seconds faster than the MR2 GT-S for example. Five and a half seconds! Chalk that up to a massive weight reduction and flappy paddle gearbox. It's only a half-second slower than Supra '19. I was on a 2:23.9 pace for several of the following laps, but l couldn't keep the car in check. Maybe with more laps, I'd accomplish that. But this is a strictly 10-lap time trial, not like Tsukuba where I'd lap certain cars until I cracked mentally.
     
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  10. MidFieldMaven

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    2:15.920 - Nissan GT-R '17

    About 7 tenths slower than the Nismo version. Both cars reach about 159 mph going into Turn 1, but the Nismo seemed to have less body roll/understeer. In real life, a base GT-R costs $100,000 while the Nismo is an astronomical $175,000. The price increase isn't worth only 7 tenths of a second on a long track like Suzuka.
     
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  11. floydant

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    Just curious, do you refer to the optimum lap on the in-race split menu while you are hot-lapping? Do you often get a "perfect" lap, where all sectors are blue?
    How perfectionist are you? Are you satisfied with your fastest lap even if one sector maybe red? Or would that niggle you?
     
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  12. VBR

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    @MidFieldMaven - Are these tests done with BoP on or off? I'm guessing Off...
     
  13. MidFieldMaven

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    I never check the split times. I just try to do the best I can for 10 laps and record the best lap. I was more of a perfectionist at Tsukuba because it was a short track and it was easier to string together a perfect lap. Suzuka is much more difficult. You could be doing amazing and then lose focus for a split second at the 130R corner or the final S-turn and lose everything in an instant. So I keep the best of 10 laps which isn't always as fast as I know I could be, but it's fast enough to be challenging.

    Yes, it's off. It's the only way to compare N-class cars as they would be in real life.
     
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  14. floydant

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    Yes, I imagine down that path madness lies...
    Please don't think I was implying you aren't thorough enough :lol:
     
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    2:55.538 - Honda Beat '91

    Almost 12 seconds slower than MX-5 NA. I'll admit the Beat was more fun. Can't beat MR drivetrains for that.
     
  16. MidFieldMaven

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    I didn't even check to see what time I got in the NA MX-5 before I tested this car. Check this out:

    2:43.419 - Toyota Sprinter Trueno 1600GT (APEX) '83
    2:43.435 - Mazda Eunos Roadster (NA) '89

    I am recording the replay right now, but I was too excited about the result that I couldn't wait to share these findings. Incredible! Both are lightweight, RWD, retractable headlights, 1.6L 80s cars. They are basically identical!

    Edit: Replay added!
     
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  17. LotusEvoraGTE

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    "If an AE86 can do it, I can too!"

    Had to bring up that quote, the fact that those two have so much in common and managed to get almost identical times reminded me of that.
     
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    2:55.695 - Honda S660 '15

    Slower than the Beat. Yes, slower! Only by <2 tenths, the exact opposite of Tsukuba. The S660 has 33 more ft-lbs of torque but weighs 155 lbs (70 kg) more. I'd like to pick up a S660 when it becomes legal in the USA after 25 years, so 2040. Will gas-powered cars even be allowed on the roads by then? Who knows!
     
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    2:20.344 - Lamborghini Miura P400 Prototype CN.0706 '67

    I did several laps prior to this one, but I hit a wall and scuffed the paint so I decided to restart. Ended up getting my best time on that out-lap. It's probably capable of high 2:19's if you're an alien or just get very lucky. The car handles weird in that it only seems to rotate when off-throttle. Anyway, it's a half-second slower than C7 Corvette, and almost a whole second faster than Audi R8 4.2 V8.
     
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  20. MidFieldMaven

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    I feel ashamed to say that I made a mistake in the Fiat 500 F. I was looking through my cars and noticed the Fiat had 40-something horsepower. I bought a new one and did a quick lap at Suzuka with the DS4 controller just to see, and sure enough, I tested the modified car. I wasted 30+ minutes testing the WRONG CAR. The stock one did a 3:55 and I can only imagine it being 2-3 seconds faster, at most. The modified one did 3:17 and I should've checked before testing. I might have to re-test the car at Tsukuba, too. Not sure. I'm 99.9% sure this is the only car I've screwed up with.
     
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  21. floydant

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    Of all the cars, literally the slowest one!!
     
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