Tell us about your Nations and Manufacturers race
- Thread starter Tekku
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- 161
- Australia
haha I had that same feeling when doing warm-up and practice, so many corners where you can just get punted by some loser. fortunately/unfortunately I lost my network connection and then gave up doing last nights session.
- 705
- Antwerp
- ThaSyn
Horrible experience. I admit this was my first mount panorama in gts, but I got *** mostly because of unfair sr penalties. Got hit several times from behind and in the side and got penalized... For what, because I brake because there is a corner.
Pd needs to fix this Sr madness asap!
Pd needs to fix this Sr madness asap!
- 593
- Umeå
Nations race today was a real sleeper. Two thirds of the players used the Volkswagen so there was really no competition. I also got pushed in the back which sent me in the wall and gave me a 10 sec penalty. I had no chance of catching up at that point.
Manufacturers race was a short story. Qualified horribly due to the weak Gr.4 Subaru. People got aggressive in the first corner, as always, and I got hit hard in the back. The system saw it as blocking attempt and I got a 10 sec penalty for it. Quit the race a couple of seconds after that corner. There really was no point.
I'm continuously astonished that S rank players seem to be so reckless just seconds after a start. Maybe they have figured out the system and exploits it in small doses. Sometimes that's what it feels like.
Manufacturers race was a short story. Qualified horribly due to the weak Gr.4 Subaru. People got aggressive in the first corner, as always, and I got hit hard in the back. The system saw it as blocking attempt and I got a 10 sec penalty for it. Quit the race a couple of seconds after that corner. There really was no point.
I'm continuously astonished that S rank players seem to be so reckless just seconds after a start. Maybe they have figured out the system and exploits it in small doses. Sometimes that's what it feels like.
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- 593
- Umeå
Yeah I know, much can happen. I just don't have the patience anymore. When the odds are against me like that I just quit automatically. I have switched to this mentality after getting in these situations in almost every race now. There's no fun in driving your ass off just to get to 12th place.
- 5,065
- Fort Worth
- That_sneaky_azN
I had pole position in the Bathurst race.
Then my controller died.
Then my controller died.
- 314
Sometimes it might be 12th place but the result will often surprise you. You are not the only one who gets pushed off the track. Often it will to happen to some guys in front of you. My experience is that the best option is to stay cool and just finish the race. The skill level in a group varies a lot, so even a accident or 2 might not change the outcome of a race that much.
- 798
- Vancouver
- Nando_deBem
I’m experiencing something strange in almost every Qualify session. In the kart event, for example, I qualified in second, but then came the “official Qualify result” and I was fourth. Are you guys experiencing the same? Dropping places after Qualify has ended.
- 1,324
- Toronto
I think this depends on what level you're driving at.
In a lobby full of Dr S/A driver's, being punted off track totally ruins your race because the margins are smaller.
In a lobby with DR C, getting punted off track doesn't mean the same thing.
I would be very frustrated if very quick drivers continue to abuse the penalty system, also it's much easier to drive off a 10 second penalty than it is to catch back up.
People set times and then leave to pit. It removes them from leaderboard. Basically, that leaderboard on top left is for people currently on track.
- 146
- Switzerland
To start my Round 1 and 2 Race were super fair and nice.
14.11 Round 3: Trained 1 hour for the manufacturers race and did 1:20.xx constantly at the end.
Started Qualy and was blocked every lap because its a short track. (I tired to find a free slot with 200m space to next car but no way.) Only 1 Laps without cars in front and then i made a mistake in the only fast lap at the last corner...where i never did a mistake before.
Startet on Pos.18. (I hate it when in the qualy most other drivers wont leave you a space and keep overtaking from behind while you wait for a free spot. They even start fights with me in the qualy...wtf)
Race: Middle of first lap i am already on pos.12 due to some cars that left Track. A car in front of me brakes in front of the last very long corner so hard i cant avoid it and push him out where normally you go full throttle for another few 100m... 10 seconds penalty for that. Was not sure if i deserved that but ok accepted.
Next car i catched in 1st corner and was at his side on the straight to corner 2. He started bumping me in the side 5 or 6 times. I looked a lot like he did it by intention. (not in the second corner but on the straight)
Then got overtaken by that subaru (what else if not a GT-R) in the inside where was no space at all for overtaking and he also didnt slow down and didnt give me back my position after bumping me out 2 times. He was clearly slower but always bumped me by late braking.
So i decided once i had the inside to also do the same and dont give him space and got 10 seconds for that and then again without any further contact 10 seconds. Makes 30 seconds in total... He didnt even crash and just left track for few seconds and lost few seconds.
The rest of the race i was turning down that penalty and due to this only managed to drive 1:22 or 1:23.
It was so frustrating since it was a B S to C S lobby and i usually should dominate that race if only i didnt make that 1 mistake in the qualy
End of Story i was on position 14 out of 16 remaining cars. But my penalty time was worked down.
I fell back to B A ranking from B S.
Ok lets do a quick Gr.3 Race on Dragon Trail to get back Rank B S i thought.
Started the Race and now guess what? There was the GT-R that couldn't stop going aside me and pushing me off Track over and over. At this point i lost my patience and crashed this idiot after he didn't stop that ******** and so it took 2 more Gr.3 Races to get back my B S Rank. Some players only understand the hard way.
14.11 Round 3: Trained 1 hour for the manufacturers race and did 1:20.xx constantly at the end.
Started Qualy and was blocked every lap because its a short track. (I tired to find a free slot with 200m space to next car but no way.) Only 1 Laps without cars in front and then i made a mistake in the only fast lap at the last corner...where i never did a mistake before.
Startet on Pos.18. (I hate it when in the qualy most other drivers wont leave you a space and keep overtaking from behind while you wait for a free spot. They even start fights with me in the qualy...wtf)
Race: Middle of first lap i am already on pos.12 due to some cars that left Track. A car in front of me brakes in front of the last very long corner so hard i cant avoid it and push him out where normally you go full throttle for another few 100m... 10 seconds penalty for that. Was not sure if i deserved that but ok accepted.
Next car i catched in 1st corner and was at his side on the straight to corner 2. He started bumping me in the side 5 or 6 times. I looked a lot like he did it by intention. (not in the second corner but on the straight)
Then got overtaken by that subaru (what else if not a GT-R) in the inside where was no space at all for overtaking and he also didnt slow down and didnt give me back my position after bumping me out 2 times. He was clearly slower but always bumped me by late braking.
So i decided once i had the inside to also do the same and dont give him space and got 10 seconds for that and then again without any further contact 10 seconds. Makes 30 seconds in total... He didnt even crash and just left track for few seconds and lost few seconds.
The rest of the race i was turning down that penalty and due to this only managed to drive 1:22 or 1:23.
It was so frustrating since it was a B S to C S lobby and i usually should dominate that race if only i didnt make that 1 mistake in the qualy
End of Story i was on position 14 out of 16 remaining cars. But my penalty time was worked down.
I fell back to B A ranking from B S.
Ok lets do a quick Gr.3 Race on Dragon Trail to get back Rank B S i thought.
Started the Race and now guess what? There was the GT-R that couldn't stop going aside me and pushing me off Track over and over. At this point i lost my patience and crashed this idiot after he didn't stop that ******** and so it took 2 more Gr.3 Races to get back my B S Rank. Some players only understand the hard way.
- 4
- Czech Republic
Hi guys,
I would like to share my yesterday experience. It starts even in qualify session where two of the racers start blocking everybody a pushing them in to the wall each time anybody wants to pass. I start race with C\E and P12. Then it is all began. It was not racing at all .. it was destruction derby. In the last corner of the lap i was pushed from behind to the wall and unfortunately I take with me two other cars (there was no chance to avoid). BLAAAM ... 10sec penalty. Few laps later, very same racer do it again. Nonsense, he start overtaking me in slow corner with high speed and BLAAAM ... he take me with him to the wall. Another 10sec penalty for me. Same thing happen in last lap. Needless to say that some of the racers pushing me out of the track when I was trying to overtaking them on top speed .. no corner ahead. He just don't want to let me overtaking him. I was angry of mad, loosing my temper. But the worst of it is, that after race I have D\E !!!! Now tell me what the f.ck is going on with this stupid penalty system. You don't even have chance to report those kind of racers ... no tools for defend real drivers ... II will rather slow down and wait for better chance to overtake somebody instead of smashing him to the wall or push him out of the race. Hope that this will be repair somehow soon, because it is very great game at all.
Thanks guys and hope for clean races for future
I would like to share my yesterday experience. It starts even in qualify session where two of the racers start blocking everybody a pushing them in to the wall each time anybody wants to pass. I start race with C\E and P12. Then it is all began. It was not racing at all .. it was destruction derby. In the last corner of the lap i was pushed from behind to the wall and unfortunately I take with me two other cars (there was no chance to avoid). BLAAAM ... 10sec penalty. Few laps later, very same racer do it again. Nonsense, he start overtaking me in slow corner with high speed and BLAAAM ... he take me with him to the wall. Another 10sec penalty for me. Same thing happen in last lap. Needless to say that some of the racers pushing me out of the track when I was trying to overtaking them on top speed .. no corner ahead. He just don't want to let me overtaking him. I was angry of mad, loosing my temper. But the worst of it is, that after race I have D\E !!!! Now tell me what the f.ck is going on with this stupid penalty system. You don't even have chance to report those kind of racers ... no tools for defend real drivers ... II will rather slow down and wait for better chance to overtake somebody instead of smashing him to the wall or push him out of the race. Hope that this will be repair somehow soon, because it is very great game at all.
Thanks guys and hope for clean races for future
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- stevenhiggster
I actually love the Subaru! I qualified 3rd for my manufacturer race. Sat right behind the first two guys (a Scirocco and an M4) and watched with joy as they continuously bashed into each other. I was just waiting for them to take each other off, and sure enough 3 laps in they did. I kept my cool swept past them both and sped off to the win by 8 seconds
- 272
- Belifant
I only had a few really bad "destruction derby" drivers in races, but what I notice now often in the FIA races is that many drivers just treat you like you're an AI driver in Arcade mode. Meaning they just extremely aggressive push past you in corners, using you as a barrier, or bump you from behind, not in the purpose of taking you out (even though that's often the result), just to reduce their speed to get around the corner. It seems to me because these are the FIA races which are supposed to be the real deal, many drivers want to finish the races in good positions at all costs. Mind you, these are all SR S drivers!
The other day I was racing against a Ferrari, he was really slow, I think he started the race at 18th position. I started way further up the field, but I went off the track (can't remember it was an error on my side or another driver taking me out) and ended up in 19th position. So I catch up to the Ferrari easy, stayed behind until he made a mistake and overtook him without any contact coming out of the corner onto the straight. All good I thought, until the next corner after the straight, where I braked as usual, just to have him dive to the inside and grind his way past me, almost sending me off track. This was a fight for the 18th position, I mean, what is he gonna win? He was clearly slower than me and everybody else! So this repeated I think once or twice more in this race, I pass him clean, he uses me as a barrier to get around corners.
This was last week and a more or less isolated event. This week though, it's been like this in every FIA race.
The other day I was racing against a Ferrari, he was really slow, I think he started the race at 18th position. I started way further up the field, but I went off the track (can't remember it was an error on my side or another driver taking me out) and ended up in 19th position. So I catch up to the Ferrari easy, stayed behind until he made a mistake and overtook him without any contact coming out of the corner onto the straight. All good I thought, until the next corner after the straight, where I braked as usual, just to have him dive to the inside and grind his way past me, almost sending me off track. This was a fight for the 18th position, I mean, what is he gonna win? He was clearly slower than me and everybody else! So this repeated I think once or twice more in this race, I pass him clean, he uses me as a barrier to get around corners.
This was last week and a more or less isolated event. This week though, it's been like this in every FIA race.
- 2,321
- Wales
- TSR_GTWelsh
First time round Willow Springs was the FIA Manufacturers Qualifying, went off track 2 laps in a row, then set the fastest lap! (DR:B) Won from the front. over 700 points! Entered the race expecting it to be madness, having never done it before, but it went the total opposite way, pretty chuffed.
- 146
- Switzerland
Exactly this!
They cant wait for a mistake and the pace is +/- the same, so they decide to brake late and dive into the corner. Sometimes even when i cut curbs they go even more inside in the green and lean on me! That is unaceptable after doing it twice in the same race i lose passions with the driver and may crash that induviduum out the track next corner if he wont give back position... Also most time after doing that i get penalty and lose more positions. But it is satisfying to know he wont have that position that he dont deserve!
At the other hand i also have a lot of nice races where you can battle guys and even go parallel with 2-3 cars into corners for several laps and nobody gets hit or even touched. But some just dont see why they should play fair and force you to leave the track or something...
- 4
- Czech Republic
That is right. I also spend many nice races with great and correct fight for better positions too. It is always great fun to have correct fight for positions when each drivers are correct to each other. That was real racing and real fun for us .... drivers
- 146
- Switzerland
- 4,917
- Berlin, Germany
- bmxmitch1
I somehow lost interest in those events...
They need a clear line IMO. The manufacturer series is fine, as you know what you're doing in there. But the nations cup? Every day you have to drive some other weird car on some reverse or short track!? No thanks...
PD really needs to step up their game now! And especially, communicate more with us players! Where want they to go with those events? And what are their plans for the rest of 2017? I'm not interested in doing test events for the next year until they managed to fix the BoP....
They need a clear line IMO. The manufacturer series is fine, as you know what you're doing in there. But the nations cup? Every day you have to drive some other weird car on some reverse or short track!? No thanks...
PD really needs to step up their game now! And especially, communicate more with us players! Where want they to go with those events? And what are their plans for the rest of 2017? I'm not interested in doing test events for the next year until they managed to fix the BoP....
- 4
- Czech Republic
That is correct ... I have the very same feeling !!
If somebody is faster than me, I always let him past in qualify and also in the race. If you are faster, go ahead and enjoy your ride. I don't have any kind of interest to slow you down. And this is what the racing is about ... respect to each other It is shame that it is not working in virtual racing too 
- 2,931
- Austria
- GTP_SnowCrash
I have a question about Nations and Manufacturers Cup. Can someone tell me what the actual objective is (besides doing well, obviously)?
Is it to help your country or manufacturer win, or to be the best in your country or within the brand you’re driving for?
Also, on the last day of the championship I might not know my final position yet, if I don’t race in the last slot, but I can’t see where I finished on the next day either. Kind of pointless, isn’t it?
Also, don’t you think there should be some kind of championship reward for how well you did overall...?
At the moment this is just another form of daily races...
Is it to help your country or manufacturer win, or to be the best in your country or within the brand you’re driving for?
Also, on the last day of the championship I might not know my final position yet, if I don’t race in the last slot, but I can’t see where I finished on the next day either. Kind of pointless, isn’t it?
Also, don’t you think there should be some kind of championship reward for how well you did overall...?
At the moment this is just another form of daily races...
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- Switzerland
- 369
- Ohio
In Qualifying I will definitely let someone much faster pass easily. In a race I’m going to make it as hard as possible while still being clean. If they get a good run on me I will by all means concede the line but until that happens....That is correct ... I have the very same feeling !!
- 798
- Vancouver
- Nando_deBem
I race them too, with a wheel. They fight fair, but let’s say they have big elbows.
- 3,359
- California
- PumpinNumbies
Just in case anyone is trying to document point results, a friend and I got into the same lobby tonight for the FIA race at Blue Moon Tri-Oval.
We both entered the room as B:S drivers.
He qualified 5th - I qualified 8th
He finished 10th - I finished 9th
He had a Red A - I had a Blue S (we were bump drafting after a wreck)
He got 670 points - I Got 731.
/shrug
We both entered the room as B:S drivers.
He qualified 5th - I qualified 8th
He finished 10th - I finished 9th
He had a Red A - I had a Blue S (we were bump drafting after a wreck)
He got 670 points - I Got 731.
/shrug
- 139
- Sydney
- Crft555
I would personally agree with this. I would prefer to be in a top room and fight for every position than win by 10 seconds in a low room. The frustration comes in that you have no way of anticipating which room you will get, and this impacts your potential to get points.I am also in high B and feel the same way... I just wish I had a wheel instead a dualshock. So that, maybe, Just maybe, I can pass 1 or 2 of those GTA finalist in a race.
For example I had a practice time of 1:10 flat and consistently running 1:10-1:11 laps with top 10 cutoff being a 1.09.5 on a hotlap, yet I got put in a room with 1 D:B and the rest E:B. Romped in without breaking a sweat and only got 200 points. Yet if I was in a room with all A:As id still be competitive and I might get 600 points +.
- 134
- United States
Qualified 3rd at Willow Springs and finished 1st by over 4 seconds. The first couple of corners were a mess but then the top 4 pulled away from the pack and had clean racing. Everyone in front of me went off the track at some point but it was still great to win. 530 points. I tried mt panorama the other day but quit after being smashed to pieces after 2 laps.
