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For the photos, I see a resemblance to the Astra, though, given the general opinion, I should expect similarities to the Corsa. Very inconspicuous, as homeforsummer had stated.
I disagree. So because it doesnt look like it cost 2 grand for ford to build its now no longer special or standout? This new model looks better in every way. Job done. Success.
So the last one was attractive?
Every manufacturer does big discounts when the new model comes out so thats a unfair comparison, as once this new KA gets replaced in 10 odd years it will be the same story.
KA or those crappy aygo thingys/c1/102 or whatever the peugeot version is called and im sure people will go with the KA.
The tata nano is the spiritual succesor the the mini imo.
And I cant see how people can say that the current KA isnt expensive for what it is, when for another £500 you can get a skoda fabia!
Disagree. The Nano is hidious, slow and generally crap. It doesn't move the game on in any way (unlike the Mini and Ka). It's sole virtue is it's cheapness, and even that isn't as impressive as it first looked and it's likely to end up costing more. It isn't even particularly impressive on reported economy compared to the Aygo etc, it gets about the same and I'd rather have the Toyota considering the extra style, build quality, performance etc.
The Ka runs rings around the Fabia for fun. And as I've said, it isn't a £500 difference, it's more like £1500 (or more) when you consider the discounts available. You can't compare list prices because that isn't how cars are sold in the real world.
I've heard nothing but praise about the original Ka, so I would like to know where you got that it was hideous and slow an crap.hideous slow and crap is how I and many would describe a KA. Really you are criticising the nano for being all of the things that you previously praised the KA for.
I think you are the first person living in Britain that I have ever heard of that doesn't understand the old Mini.Fun in what way? I know in a car crash the KA wouldnt be much fun, and for when there are 5 of you in the car it wouldnt be much fun then either. The bootspace isnt fun. So the KA has lift off oversteer, but then so does the fabia.
hideous slow and crap is how I and many would describe a KA. Really you are criticising the nano for being all of the things that you previously praised the KA for.
That's strange because my wife was driven into by a transit van when she was in her Ka, the resulting damage from the accident was repairable and she walked away without a scratch. I'm not talking about a minor ding here either.Fun in what way? I know in a car crash the KA wouldnt be much fun, and for when there are 5 of you in the car it wouldnt be much fun then either.
Wake up please, I have already given an example of how practical the Ka is when it comes to the loading area and the surprising amount it can actually carry. For the segment it sits in and the age of the design it still stands up well in these areas.The bootspace isnt fun. So the KA has lift off oversteer, but then so does the fabia. Grippy front, light rear, so light in the rear infact that there have been issues with the rear brake discs rusting up on lower mileage vehicles.
The Ka upholds that spirit a little better than does a much larger Skoda or SEAT.
I've heard nothing but praise about the original Ka, so I would like to know where you got that it was hideous and slow an crap
My opinion is that you are talking rubbish, the Ka is about as far from a crap car as you can get, it stupidly practical, handles excellently (hence the reason many have been used for rallying over the years), has great fuel consumption and is a hoot to drive.
Wake up please, I have already given an example of how practical the Ka is when it comes to the loading area and the surprising amount it can actually carry. For the segment it sits in and the age of the design it still stands up well in these areas.
I am however more than able to spot the problem you have with the Ka, it wasn't built by a part of the VAG group. Had it been I'm quite sure it would have been the saviour of the small car industry and healer of the sick and infirm.
Sorry but how old were you when the Ka was first release, because it certainly has served as a cheap form of transport for many new drivers. Simply because Ford has moved the base models 'up-market' over the years does not change what the original Ka was designed for and achieved very well.Which brings me back to main main dispute about the KA. Why would you buy one when for a extra 500 pounds you can get a much larger vehicle in that of the fabia?
Also I have been thinking about the KA's existence and its supposed moving on the game. In reality it hasnt done anything in particular. Its a small odd looking vehicle that is half fun to drive. Other manufacturers, such as the french also made such vehicles. You cannot compare the ka to the original mini. The original mini like the beetle helped alot of people to get a form of cheap reliable transportation. The KA did not serve such a purpose.
No looks are subjective, to be objective about looks we would have to not include them in the discussion.It looks hideous in my opinion (looks are objective), its slow barring the sports KA, and the interior is crap when compared to vehicles that cost a couple hundred more like the fabia or a corsa.
Then why did you use that exact word?No its not a crap car as such
Tried one?Im sure it is fun to drive and its design would make it competent at motorsport with some modifications but the average stock KA wouldnt suit my driving style personally.
Infinity more practical than most cars in its segment and far more so that a new MINI as a good example.How practial is it though if say you went shopping and there where four of you and you could not fold down the rear seats?
I'm yet personally to see evidence of that, in this thread alone you have dragged VAG group cars into a discussion without need or merit.I couldnt care less to be honest and im starting to get my own grudges with VAG and their inter-brand politics.
No you have also said that its crap, slow, not practical and has a poor interior; so you have a lot more against it than price. If you have trouble remembering what you have said I suggest re-reading your own posts.Notice though that my main issue with the KA is its price, and it seems odd that im the one who is defending the new model for someone who has a problem with the KA.
hideous slow and crap is how I and many would describe a KA. Really you are criticising the nano for being all of the things that you previously praised the KA for.
Fun in what way? I know in a car crash the KA wouldnt be much fun,
and for when there are 5 of you in the car it wouldnt be much fun then either. The bootspace isnt fun.
So the KA has lift off oversteer, but then so does the fabia. Grippy front, light rear, so light in the rear infact that there have been issues with the rear brake discs rusting up on lower mileage vehicles.
Which brings me back to main main dispute about the KA. Why would you buy one when for a extra 500 pounds you can get a much larger vehicle in that of the fabia?
Also I have been thinking about the KA's existence and its supposed moving on the game. In reality it hasnt done anything in particular. Its a small odd looking vehicle that is half fun to drive....The original mini like the beetle helped alot of people to get a form of cheap reliable transportation. The KA did not serve such a purpose.
It looks hideous in my opinion (looks are objective), its slow barring the sports KA, and the interior is crap when compared to vehicles that cost a couple hundred more like the fabia or a corsa.
costs nearly 8 grand
Notice though that my main issue with the KA is its price, and it seems odd that im the one who is defending the new model for someone who has a problem with the KA.
Really? How about at £4,995 then?forza2.0I just would not be able to personally justify buying one when it costs nearly 8 grand
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Really? How about at £4,995 then?![]()
yes thats more like it. and the thing is some people actually do pay at list price, and it will be women more so than men and funnily enough women are the main buyers.
yes thats more like it. and the thing is some people actually do pay at list price, and it will be women more so than men and funnily enough women are the main buyers.
No its because women tend to go on fords website, check things out, if they agree with the price they will go into the show room and order one which will be at list price. Cars already in the showroom will differ.
Back that up with cold hard fact or retract it.
I seriously doubt that you can show that those who pay list for Ka's (of which very, very few do - keep in mind that I speak to Ford dealerships on an almost weekly basis), the majority are women.
As someone who has worked in a number of dealerships I can assure that some of the people who drive the hardest deals are women.
Quite frankly I am at the end of my tether with nonsense from you, so for the very, very, very last time......
Your opinion is not fact, don't treat it as such.
.....so I await your proof with interest. GT Planet is not the place to spout sexist nonsense such as this, something that should be blindingly obvious.
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Well done, you just defeated your own argument of women paying full list price off the internet. Bravo.I can only go by experience around me, such as GF's friends gfs and family members, of which ,most of them do not have a clue about cars. They can tell you about the latest designer clothes, the best ISA's and such or other things they take interest in but when it comes to cars they would just look at the internet or a car mag, choose a car for a price that suits them and go and order one in the local dealership after a test drive.
What exactly does your job entail btw.
I can only go by experience around me, such as GF's friends gfs and family members, of which ,most of them do not have a clue about cars. They can tell you about the latest designer clothes, the best ISA's and such or other things they take interest in but when it comes to cars they would just look at the internet or a car mag, choose a car for a price that suits them and go and order one in the local dealership after a test drive.
Well done, you just defeated your own argument of women paying full list price off the internet. Bravo.
Of course they will be, that however doesn't mean that discounts are not available.So your telling me if I go into a car dealership, there wont be cars on sale at the same price as advertised on the internet or infact even advertised more expensively?
True, but you are almost exclusively talking about niche dealerships here, almost every volume dealership will give discount quite freely. As long as its not a new model and doesn't have a waiting list most cars can be bought for less than retail.Infact some dealerships will flat out refuse to give a discount on a car.