The 2012 Driver transfer discussion/speculation thread

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prisonermonkeys
I like to think that Hispania decide their driver line-ups with one of these:

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I thought that was the wheel that PDVSA gave to Williams :sly:
 
I red somewhere that Virgin has signed some Canadian or French GP2 driver (or something), so it will be him and Glock for the next season. I am not sure Ricciardo wil drive for HRT though, maybe Vergne, but I also see him going to STR. Renault might give Grosjean a seat next year.
 
fps_christian
I red somewhere that Virgin has signed some Canadian or French GP2 driver (or something), so it will be him and Glock for the next season.
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His name is Charles Pic, and he drives for Barwa Addax in GP2. He was running second, but an end-of-season collapse saw him finish fourth. He has family money through a trucking company connected to Renault. He has not officially been signed yet, but an annoucement of some kind is expected in Brazil.

The Canadian driver is Robert Wickens, who has backing from Marussia. He had had success in virtually every level of competition he has tried his hand at, which makes the signing of Pic over him a bizarre choice.
 
fps_christian
I red somewhere that Virgin has signed some Canadian or French GP2 driver (or something), so it will be him and Glock for the next season. I am not sure Ricciardo wil drive for HRT though, maybe Vergne, but I also see him going to STR. Renault might give Grosjean a seat next year.
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Yep I think Romain should drive for Renault next season alongside Petrov he showed good pace during the Abu Dhabi practice sessions as for STR I think maybe Riccairdo should get a seat alongside Jamie he's has a few more races then Vergne has Riccairdo they would make a strong pairing I think
 
As for the virgin team I think Glock and wickens would the right driver choice and for HRT I would pick Vergne and Del a rosa
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
Where do you get Vergne for HRT?
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Because he's fast and he would be a good choice for the Spanish team and driving alongside a driver who has alot of experience in F1 to compare himself and maybe learn a few things of him...
 
toyotsupra
Because he's fast and he would be a good choice for the Spanish team and driving alongside a driver who has alot of experience in F1 to compare himself and maybe learn a few things of him...
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Oh I see, so that's who you want to drive for HRT. I don't see why HRT would get Vergne to be honest since he drove an RB7 at the young drivers test. Also it would be in HRTs best interest to keep on Luizzi or Riccardo instead of switching drivers every year, that inconsistency doesn't help build a car for the following year off of driver feedback.
 
The only reason Ricciardo is at HRT is because Red Bull bought the seat so he would have a bit of experience before presumably making a move to Toro Rosso. Though I'd rather see Vergne at Toro Rosso instead of Ricciardo.
 
astrosdude91
The only reason Ricciardo is at HRT is because Red Bull bought the seat so he would have a bit of experience before presumably making a move to Toro Rosso. Though I'd rather see Vergne at Toro Rosso instead of Ricciardo.
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Well it is very possible that Ricciardo could end up at STR, since the talk is that Buemi might get the boot more so then Algesuari. Vergne does deserve a drive, but the young driver test didn't prove much to me for the higher tier teams, since most used it for a actual testing day (ferrari and Mclaren) rather than evaluating young drivers.
 
It's called The Daily Fail for a reason. Ferrari won't take Robert Kubica after two seasons on the sidelines recovering from an injury.
 
prisonermonkeys
It's called The Daily Fail for a reason. Ferrari won't take Robert Kubica after two seasons on the sidelines recovering from an injury.
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I totally agree - this idea that Ferrari wants Kubica for 2013 makes no sense whatsoever. Kubica's ability is rather unknown atm, so why would Ferrari be so keen on replacing Massa with another driver who is coming back from an even more traumatic injury. I know Alonso and Kubica are good friends, but Alonso isn't the one doing the hiring. Also, Massa still has a year left on his contract to prove himself as at least a good back up and number 2 to Alonso. If Ferrari can deliver a very competitive car off the bat, that is easier to drive and doesn't have the tires issues, I personally feel Massa will do just fine for Ferrari.

Silly season has really been in full swing of late, with the baseless rumours of both Mclaren drivers going to Ferrari and now this.

On another note, I read somewhere that Red Bull might try and get Vergne in one of the Caterham seats for next year, depending on what happens with Trulli and if Caterham have enough desire for Red Bull's money. Heikki would be a great benchmark for such a highly touted rookie :) That will certainly be an interesting battle to watch next year, if it does in fact happen.
 
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prisonermonkeys
It's called The Daily Fail for a reason. Ferrari won't take Robert Kubica after two seasons on the sidelines recovering from an injury.
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They wanted to take him for 2009 when Massa was injured, but he was too long. :dunce:
 
A couple of reports in the Interlagos paddock suggest that negotiations between Kimi Raikkonen and Williams have completely broken down - possibly because Raikkonen was asking for $12 million - and that Raikkonen is now trying his hand with Renault (who need a pay driver and are probably in no position to pay that much money since it's basically what their pay drivers are already bringing to the team).
 
prisonermonkeys
A couple of reports in the Interlagos paddock suggest that negotiations between Kimi Raikkonen and Williams have completely broken down - possibly because Raikkonen was asking for $12 million - and that Raikkonen is now trying his hand with Renault (who need a pay driver and are probably in no position to pay that much money since it's basically what their pay drivers are already bringing to the team).
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Renault? Thats daft. They are saturated with drivers, and especially drivers who have driven a Formula-Style car in the past 2 years...
 
hawkeye122
Renault? Thats daft. They are saturated with drivers, and especially drivers who have driven a Formula-Style car in the past 2 years...
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True and then Kimi would be a hypocrite as well. Renault through his name around before and he told the world that he'd never drive for a team like Renault. Wish I still had the article.
 
aarror
It's officially official: Pic is replacing D'Ambrosio at Virgin for next year.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/11/12852.html

Thoughts?
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According to his history, he doesn't have the ''superior of the superior'' unlike some other drivers but he's not doing that bad either. He finished 4th in this year's GP2 Series rather than 10th in 2010. It's interesting to see him stepping up into Formula 1, hopefully Virgin themself provide him a good car otherwise I think we'd be seeing another D'Ambrosio...
 
Virgin/Marussia are quickly replacing Briatore/Renault as "that team who always have a new second driver every season". Its a crying shame that so far none of these drivers have managed to get a seat elsehwere - Di Grassi and D'Ambrosio are decent drivers. They'll have to be careful in future as they aren't inspiring a lot of confidence for these drivers if they consistently drop them after 1 year.

I guess there isn't a way around it though, the team need money and these drivers bring it. As long as they have Glock or an experienced driver in the other seat, they have their bases covered.

It has to be said that HRT are clearly ahead of them now in almost all areas except perhaps facilities. A grim year generally for them. So much for Nick Wirth - again.
 
I'd like to see Bruno stay on for next year. Although he has only been racing the 2nd half of the season, for me there will be a very sour feeling if someone waltzes into Formula 1 from Formula 2/GP2 and jumps into a possibly championship capable 2012 car, of which Senna's race data will help build.
If 2012's Lotus is a championship winner, it'd better be Petrov or Senna collecting the title (or someone already in F1, like Barrichello, slim as his chance is), otherwise I will probably vomit.
 
It's purely about the money, really. Smaller teams seem to completely ignore racing talent for drivers that bring money to the team. I can understand these teams, but you have to start with a good basis. And that basis is that Glock and D'Ambrosio are two very decent drivers. Take Petrov as an example and look how he has evolved since last season. It's a bit of a shame so many F1 drivers don't get the chance to evolve their racing abilities because of these money issues.
 
Bram Turismo
It's purely about the money, really. Smaller teams seem to completely ignore racing talent for drivers that bring money to the team. I can understand these teams, but you have to start with a good basis. And that basis is that Glock and D'Ambrosio are two very decent drivers.
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Virgin has a good line up of Glock and D'Ambrosio but all wasted because they have no money. I think the best combination is what Williams have which is 1 experienced driver to lead the team while the other one is a new driver from GP2 or anywhere with some experience of single seater and sponsorship money for the team. I think that's what the new teams should be doing to get in front... Money is important but at the same time, talent and experience is also important.
 
aarror
It's officially official: Pic is replacing D'Ambrosio at Virgin for next year.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/11/12852.html

Thoughts?
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Well, I for one would like to say what a shame it is to be losing D'Ambrosio. Aside from his humiliating spin in the pit lane, he has performed very well and I would like to commend him on talking to the BBC with a big smile on his face despite having possibly raced his last Grand Prix.
 
RTSolvalou
I'd like to see Bruno stay on for next year. Although he has only been racing the 2nd half of the season, for me there will be a very sour feeling if someone waltzes into Formula 1 from Formula 2/GP2 and jumps into a possibly championship capable 2012 car, of which Senna's race data will help build.
If 2012's Lotus is a championship winner, it'd better be Petrov or Senna collecting the title (or someone already in F1, like Barrichello, slim as his chance is), otherwise I will probably vomit.
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Senna is pretty good in the car. I would like to see him in a McLaren with Honda engine.
 
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