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The Chevrolet Viva Becomes the Chevrolet Aveo - Post #17

Viva la Vida? Yeah! Wait... They're still calling it "Aveo?" GAAH!

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In a world where major automotive companies go bankrupt, get purchased by foreign automakers, or split up their global divisions... Its nice to have some good news once in a while. While President Obama and Fritz Henderson were making a big deal about GM's Bankruptcy, that crazy ol' coot Bob Lutz announced the Chevrolet Viva. This is that unknown B-Segment car that will not only be built right here in the United States, but also replace the God-awful Aveo.

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The 2011 Chevy Viva hopes to erase the memory of years, and years, and years of truly terrible compact cars from GM (Geo Metro, Pontiac Lemans, Chevy Vega...) with a platform flexible enough to be built anywhere in GM's shrinking empire and stylish enough to be more than an also-ran. Lutz claims the new car will take on the B-car segment, and the Ford Fiesta in particular, with a level of competency rarely seen from GM in this segment. We expect to see the car get a version of the Chevy Cruze's 1.4 liter inline-four, though probably turbo-free like the version in the Chevy Volt. The car will be built in a reawakened GM plant somewhere in US, and was probably the car intended for Chinese assembly, but brought back as part of negotiations for UAW concessions.
 
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So...what makes this car better than what they did with the Metro and etc. smaller cars?
 
...is it me, or is that just an Aveo covered in bin bags?

The profile looks quite promising, but that interior is pretty devoid of anything interesting - it's all very, very grey. And the thing containing the rev counter just looks horrid, like some cheap Taiwanese-made toy. I do quite like the steering wheel, though.

It's not a Fiesta beater quite yet, put it that way.
 
I like the look of it inside and out...but I bet the plastics will be reminding us of the lovely 80's and 90's GM cars. I'll pass and buy my European Ford counterpart.
 
The profile looks quite promising, but that interior is pretty devoid of anything interesting - it's all very, very grey. And the thing containing the rev counter just looks horrid, like some cheap Taiwanese-made toy. I do quite like the steering wheel, though.

That's what I thought. It looks more like a 21st century interpretation of "cheap" than a good segment leader.

At least they've moved above 1990s cheap though!
 
This car will be for the White House interns.
 
The Aveo/Kalos wasn't that bad, to be honest...
 
Whoever designed that interior needs a huge dose of interesting injected into their life very quickly.
 
The Aveo/Kalos wasn't that bad, to be honest...

No, they weren't horrible when they first came out... But the mild refreshenings that GM has done have never been enough to stand up to (insert competitor here) for long. It still needs and better engine and transmission combo here in the US, a re-worked interior, and better yet a suspension that isn't set in "butter" mode permanently. For the money, they're good transportation for people looking to go A --> B.

Problem is, cars like the Rio5, Fiesta, Versa, Clio, Polo, Fit, Yaris, etc. all exist.
 
The Viva appears to be a separate model from anything Corsa-based, but I would imagine that the artists render is pretty close to what would actually happen. Probably.
 
Viva la Vida? Yeah! Wait... They're still calling it "Aveo?" GAAH!

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If by chance we thought about the Chevrolet Aveo at all during the past several years, it was usually because of its unfortunate styling and cheap feel. Starting with next week's 2010 Detroit Auto Show, Chevy is out to change the Aveo's image into a product that we might actually desire. The process begins with the Aveo RS concept, which provides a preview of what to expect from the next-generation production Aveo when it arrives in showrooms sometime next year.

The B-segment of small cars in the U.S. is shaping up to be a real battle royale with the new Ford Fiesta arriving soon, Fiat bringing over the stylish 500, the Volkswagen Polo and, of course, the incumbent Honda Fit and Toyota Yaris. It remains to be seen how much the segment will grow unless gas prices start climb again. Regardless, those of us who appreciate good small cars are certainly in for more feast than famine in the next several years.

When the Aveo first appeared in 2003, few people noticed the plain looking little car. It was cheap and looked it from inside and out. It wasn't until the 2008 refresh of the five-door hatchback that we paid it much attention, and even then not in a good way. Applying that bold dual port Chevy grille to the tall and narrow Aveo led to a look that could charitably be described as horrid.

The Aveo RS has much more attractive proportions with a wider stance and longer profile that make it look much more aggressive than the current model. It adopts some of the smaller Spark's styling cues, but without the tinier proportions. For instance, the side glass has a similar treatment with a rising belt-line and rear door handles integrated into the C-pillar area. The scooped out rocker panel sculpting is also something the Aveo RS has in common with the Spark.

The Aveo RS diverges more from the Spark the closer you get to its front. It gets the standard dual port grille like all new Chevys, but the upper section is tapered in at the top, which gives the grille a hexagonal appearance. We actually saw a styling buck of the next-gen production Aveo last August at the General Motors design dome, and that base model featured dual grilles of equal height. This more sporting RS concept, however, has a lower grille that extends farther down, but we don't mind the extra height thanks to the greater width compared to the current Aveo.

Inside, the Aveo RS has similarities to the smaller Spark and other larger Chevrolets like the new Cruze and Equinox. Like the Spark, its instrument pod consists of a round speedometer with a rectangular digital display to the right sitting on top of the steering column. A display for the entertainment system sits in a hooded pod atop the center stack, but the rest of the stack design bears a resemblance to larger Chevys.

Since this RS version is meant to be a hot hatch, GM has equipped it with suitable seats to hold the driver in place during aggressive maneuvers. On the show car, the seats are finished in actual leather with stitching that matches the blue exterior. This is a welcome change from the very obviously synthetic vinyl that covered the seats of the last Aveo we drove.

For the first time ever, an Aveo will actually have the hardware to be considered a hot hatch. Power in the RS comes from the turbocharged 1.4-liter four-cylinder producing 138 horsepower and 148 pound-feet of torque that will also do service in the larger Cruze. The torque gets sent to those over sized 19-inch wheels through a proper six-speed manual gearbox. Chevrolet hasn't yet publicly committed to building an RS version of the next-gen production Aveo, but since this engine will already be in production for the Cruze at GM's Flint engine plant, we'd be surprised if it didn't eventually show up in the lineup.

We recently spoke with Ford's marketing boss Jim Farley about a Fiesta with a 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine and he was particularly enthusiastic about the idea. Let's hope both of these models make it to market, because we'd love to put these modern interpretations of the original Volkswagen GTI up against each other in a comparison test.

Well, outside of calling the car an Aveo... Yeah. It looks like a fairly competent compact, inside and out. I'm excited to see it in person, but in all honesty, it just doesn't seem as special as the Fiesta does. I think its that Aveo name. I just can't get over that.
 
I'd like it a lot more if it didn't look so ridiculous in the front. I understand that Chevy has an ugly corporate face, GM. That doesn't mean it will work any less worse on this than it does on the Malibu.

Also, Fiesta.
 
...is it me, or is that just an Aveo covered in bin bags?

The profile looks quite promising, but that interior is pretty devoid of anything interesting - it's all very, very grey. And the thing containing the rev counter just looks horrid, like some cheap Taiwanese-made toy. I do quite like the steering wheel, though.

It's not a Fiesta beater quite yet, put it that way.

Wheel looks like its off my Civic.

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And I agree that it looks very much like an Aveo...But then again I guess these cars' profiles don't vary that much.


Edit: Oh, didn't actually look at the update...:lol:

If they built it like that, I think it looks great. But they won't.
 
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Haha I the Aveo is so boring I had no idea it came out in '03 I thought it was like 05-06ish.

Since this thing will look nothing like these renderings, I imagine the new one will only suffer the same fate.

And when is the Polo supposed to be over here?
 
Other than the front end needing a good Holden-ification, I think it looks great. I've expressed my dismay with the Fiesta before, I really really REALLY can't see why people rave about it, but this looks almost wicked. At least it looks better than all the other generic small hatch designs out there at the moment.
The instrument cluster is funky.
 
Other than the front end needing a good Holden-ification, I think it looks great. I've expressed my dismay with the Fiesta before, I really really REALLY can't see why people rave about it, but this looks almost wicked. At least it looks better than all the other generic small hatch designs out there at the moment.
The instrument cluster is funky.

When you chuck a Fiesta around a tight corner... as you find in many parts of the world that don't have roads fifty feet wide and straight as an arrow... you get a little smile on your face. If the road is slightly wet, little angels sing hallelujahs over your shoulder.

When you chuck an Aveo around a corner... you get understeer... you lift off the gas... you get slightly less understeer... you trail-brake it... you get even less understeer, but you still get understeer.

And engines, steering and a gearchange as tired and as floppy as a ten year old Korean subcompact.... which the Aveo basically is... which is just one step up from those Chinese subcompacts that can understeer, oversteer, bounce off the bump stops and fall apart all at the same time.

Until I see proof that this isn't basically a facelifted Daewoo, I won't hold out hope for this being a great car, either.
 
Now no-one will buy it no matter how good it is, because everyone'll think it's a shoddy economy car built by Koreans.

and there's Fiesta. :3
 
Yup the Fiesta is almost certain to be a better car, hell even I want a Fiesta.
 
When you chuck a Fiesta around a tight corner... as you find in many parts of the world that don't have roads fifty feet wide and straight as an arrow... you get a little smile on your face. If the road is slightly wet, little angels sing hallelujahs over your shoulder.

When you chuck an Aveo around a corner... you get understeer... you lift off the gas... you get slightly less understeer... you trail-brake it... you get even less understeer, but you still get understeer.

And engines, steering and a gearchange as tired and as floppy as a ten year old Korean subcompact.... which the Aveo basically is... which is just one step up from those Chinese subcompacts that can understeer, oversteer, bounce off the bump stops and fall apart all at the same time.

Until I see proof that this isn't basically a facelifted Daewoo, I won't hold out hope for this being a great car, either.

When I chuck a Fiesta around a tight corner I get annoyed with the stupidly light steering, then I park it somewhere and get out and am bitterly reminded of the hideous front end. Embarrassed by it I jump back in to hide my face, and am confronted with over complicated and fiddly interior controls, and general interior shapes that make me feel the car thinks I should be compensating for something. I look up, straight out the windscreen, I still have the bright blue dash in my peripherals, great (not). I fire it up again, and drive off, oh noes! It's a 1.4L auto with such little ability to move I'm not sure if I AM moving. I trade it for a manual, a little better, but not enough to fix the rest of the car. I continue driving, I get a flat tyre, oh great that's right, these don't even have a space saver, you can't evem option one, it's tube of guber or nothing. I now need to call work and tell them I'll be late because my flat tyre has limited kms and I need to get it replaced ASAP. I get back in, hot and bothered now, but the A/C isn't very strong, and it's an Australian Summer, so I drive it off to get the flat replaced, hot, bothered, embarrassed, annoyed, disappointed and.........running out of fuel now because the fuel tank is tiny and the car needs plenty throttle to accelerate to safe merging speeds etc.

Anyways, that's how I feel about the Fiesta, and yes, I have driven them enough to have formed a strong opinion about them in this way. Can't say I've driven a Barina, but I DO know that neither are sports cars, neither have hot versions, if you're driving either of them fast enough for understeer, you bought the wrong car.

Get a Focus, a trillion times better.
 
Viva la Vida? Yeah! Wait... They're still calling it "Aveo?" GAAH!

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Well, outside of calling the car an Aveo... Yeah. It looks like a fairly competent compact, inside and out. I'm excited to see it in person, but in all honesty, it just doesn't seem as special as the Fiesta does. I think its that Aveo name. I just can't get over that.

At least it looks pretty cool. Too bad it will almost certainly perform with uncool-to-the-extremeness. I'm loving the light fixtures.
 
Shiny blue paint and big wheels are all very exciting (hey, that combination has won me over before...), but I'll bet that the production model is devoid of any of those interesting features. And that interior still looks Daewoo-cheap, even in a 500px wide picture. But at least it's got a more logical look to it, I suppose. In fact I think I prefer it to the Fiesta's silly hyperactive looking one that, for reasons I can't work out, reminds me of Power Rangers.

Keep the interesting details, lose the old name and I think it'll be just fine.
 
Get a Focus, a trillion times better.

Do I seriously need to remind you what the Focus looks like in the US? and is?

and we're also getting nothing but the Fiesta 1.6 model. I imagine with the 17" accessory wheels, they'll be pretty nippy.

The Aveo, on the other hand...well, this concept version gives off a ricey feel to me. Especially those taillights.
 
i think I have to remind you people...

American roads are not all 50 feet wide and straight as an arrow!!!

will you guys PLEASE stop assuming america is one giant INTERSTATE!!

now that that's done...

complain all you like about the tacky grey or black interiors. the late 70's/early 80's US interiors were even tackier; color-matched to the crushed velvet upholstery. even leather interiors had the dash and wheel plastics color-matched! no matter who does it or what color it is, an american designed interior will always look tacky. you can't get away from it, here.

Prower: ever notice non americans haven't heard that we rarely change anything when it comes to platforms?
 
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