The Devil's Playground. - tuning by Demon. NEW! Murcielago, & FORD GT '05 (600pp)!!

Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by demonchilde, Dec 25, 2013.

  1. jtqmopar

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    Minimum camber values for this car are 3.0 front, and 1.0 rear. I'm not sure if it was changed in an update or not, but just thought you might want to revisit this car for a lap or two and see if the tune still drives properly.
     
  2. demonchilde

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    Im not revisiting anything until after the coming patch hits.
    but ty.
    theres a few on the first page that I need to check out AFTER the next patch release. If the patch is major, then ALL of them, lol.
     
  3. jtqmopar

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    This is the first I've heard of a new patch. Research time!
     
  4. demonchilde

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    They always pull this on a monday or tuesday, and were getting close to time. Some say it will be before march, that leaves not much time.
    with the game so new and buggy, we can expect updates at least every month if not sooner, and im hoping this next one is a Cam fix, lol.
     
  5. Ksquad

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    Awesome tune, loving it on the 'ring!
     
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  6. demonchilde

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    This post is a response to a driving style comment I made, in the following thread;

    https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ars-that-completely-lose-the-back-end.303650/

    Now, this is to discribe my recent tune for the Lamborghini Murcielago LP 640 '09

    The specific 'style' I'm talking about, is the combination of drifting and regular street racing. It involves cars that are naturally heavy in the rear, or constantly have the ass end buck out. Normally this is an annoying feature, and can get you in trouble often. Normally, you would tune it out if possible.
    In the case of this Murcielago, it actually wasn't that bad to begin with. During my tuning process, I actually added some rear end shift to cause this 'defect'. The purpose is obvious, to create turns that you normally only see when doing drifting races. This can cut 1/2 seconds here and there, and ultimately cut full seconds off your overall lap times.
    Here's some examples in Tokyo;

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    Here, I'm throwing the ass end out before the turn. This is done to prevent the need to slow down, and create a faster base speed when the turn is done and the LSD kicks in for accelerating.

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    Here, I hit the gase, tap the brake quickly, lift off brake, and slam the gas again, throwing the ass out mid turn to create a straight away cutting the turn into 2 turns instead of 1 long turn. This allows for the passing of the opponent as he is maintaining a slowing speed for the corner, and I'm burning the middle right past.

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    This is obvious. A simple drifting corner. But see how the ass end is burning to the right during the turn? This gives you the perfect direction of the nose earlier then you would doing a normal turn-in-apex-turn-out scenario.

    Also, I set it up and kept tweaking it as I was tuning, to keep it manageable while pulling these drifts. If you take her for a ride, you will notice while your drifting, that the car never completes the spin. Every throw out, the car remains in a straight pattern. The tail end never actually overwhelms the car, and the nose always stays in a position of control.
    Now, as I mentioned in the thread about loose back ends, this is a dangerous objective. Playing like this will cause a lot of screw-ups while your practicing and mastering this. Some things just aren't meant to be done at 150mph, lol. But to me, this is the fun of it all. Good luck, and have a blast :)
     
  7. Hasassin_X

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    Ok so I like your tune it helped me get the car a little better then I had it. With being said I'm using this car to race Nurburgring in the IA 15 min race..lol Trying to be different didn't want to use the typical race car. I changed the tune just a bit the tune you have for this car makes it understeer more then I personally like ( bear in mind I'm using the DS3 ) So hope you don't mind maybe others will like both tunes but here it goes.
    PP= 594pp
    Max power= 779hp
    Weight= 1,445kg
    Weight distribution= 50/50
    Max torque= 826 ft/lb
    Power limit @ 100%
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    -engine stage Standard
    -reduced window weight
    -weight reduce stage 3
    -LSD tool
    -full transmission tool
    -racing brakes
    -racing hard tires
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    Ride height= 62/69
    Springs= 20.10/14.30
    Dc= 6/5
    De= 7/5
    Ab= 4/4
    Cam= 0.0/0.0
    Toe= -0.10/0.10
    Brakes= 7/10
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    LSD settings;
    Initial= 7
    Accel= 8
    Brake= 22
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    Downforce= n/a
    Ballast= 68kg @ +50
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    Transmission settings
    Final to 3200
    Max speed to 224
    Gears;
    1= 3.213
    2= 2.030
    3= 1.540
    4= 1.200
    5=0.969
    6=0.809
    7=
    Final to 3.200

    Hopefully you don't mind just wanted to post mine here incase anyone feels the tune you have understeers a bit much for them and wants to correct it but didn't know how to. My biggest challenge was getting the suspension right which you did perfectly thanks! not as much power as your tune, but didn't need that much for this race. I'll post my lap on Nurburgring where I tested my tune made it around the track 7:13.518 that was on the 12:00 min track.
     
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  8. demonchilde

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    Thats perfectly fine, I welcome any and all ideas. Im not here doing this to be cool or anything, I do this to help others who have similar drive styles to myself. Anything that helps that, helps me :)

    And about the understeer, I get that a lot. My drive style encorperates the use of drifting and I play with high speed weight transfers constantly. I find that some people who drive 'safer' then I do talk of some understeer. All anyone has to do is tell me and ill adjust it.
    its happened before, cant remember the cars offhand, but they told me and I threw some quick easy adjustments at them and they were very happy.

    We're all In this together the way I see it. I think we all should be helping each other every chance we get.
     
  9. Gyro1780

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    Just finished the testing with this car. As always i started with the flatter circuits moving onto the bumpier tracks & ending with the full Nurburgring. This car is FAST!! I can see why you like to "Grind Cash" with it! I found it to work equally well on sports tyres as it does on the racing tyres. Taking things easy to begin with the car feels nice & tight through the corners, no understeer into the turn. I did find though on sports tyres (although this tune is set-up for racing hard rubber i still like to test with the sports) it did lock the front a little when pushing hard & braking as late as possible. This doesn't happen when using racing tyres. Getting the power on as early as possible out of the corner there is no oversteer, even on the bumpier tracks. While testing on Trial Mountain you feel every bump but the car sticks to the racing line even when pushing to it's limit. The only thing i would do if this tune was mine would be to reduce the power so it fits in the 550pp bracket as i feel it would be more competitive there than in a 580pp+ room.
    I haven't compared this to the other available tunes on here yet but i think you would struggle to find a better one.
    Overall a very good tune, FAST & really nice to drive + it looks awesome in black with the 1" bigger rims & aero kit.

    Thank you to demonchilde for sharing this tune with me :)
     
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  10. Hasassin_X

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    So Here is the replay from the tuning test I promised before check it out I'll be posting the actual race at some point today which was crazy AI fought me all the way to the end spun out like 3 times but still made it in first stay tuned for that. Oh remember to change to 720p for 1080p which ever your connection handles best

     
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  11. Hasassin_X

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    ok so as promised here is the full race with the Red Devil Sorry its long but grinding to the end!!
     
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  12. demonchilde

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    Mercedes-Benz AMG VGT
    Like the wind race 3 specific tune.

    PP= 666pp
    Max power= 1048hp
    Weight= 1,220kg
    Weight distribution= 50/50
    Max torque= 872 ft/lb
    Power limit @ 100%
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    -All highest power upgrades
    -nitro
    -reduced window weight
    -weight reduce stage 3
    -LSD tool
    -full transmission tool
    -racing brakes
    -racing hard tires
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    Ride height= 80/80
    Springs= 10.80/15.53
    Dc= 5/5
    De= 5/6
    Ab= 6/5
    Cam= 0.5/0.0
    Toe= -0.10/0.11
    Brakes= 7/4 (doesn't really matter, you don't use them)
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    LSD settings;
    Initial= 7
    Accel= 7
    Brake= 7
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    Nitro setting= 15%
    Downforce= n/a
    Ballast= 81kg @ -50
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    Transmission settings
    Final to max
    Max speed to 137mph
    Gears;
    1= 2.760
    2= 2.070
    3= 1.623
    4= 1.315
    5=0.102
    6=0.956
    7=0.839
    Final to 2.500

    Basically, at the start go to right lane and stay there. You go by everyone and no one gets in your way.
    Use the nitro to 50% left on the first turn. the rest on the second, never on the straights.
    You win with about a 30+ second gap between you and second place car.
     
  13. Eldeorn

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    This car was my favourite in GT5. This version is even better. With your tune, it's way too easy to win now! My first instict was that it should have slightly better downforce (with your balance still) to improve cornering grip, but after lapping my competitors in the 15 min races, I figured, nah it don't need any more grip.
     
  14. Daduce1947

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    DemonChilde - buddy!! I gotta tell you this tune is OFF THE CHARTS AWSOME!! Yes, I have made just a few VERY minor adjustments to fit my driving style but the tune is genius buddy, GENIUS! Before I found your tune I had given up getting this Ford GT - beast - to work in GT6,,, after paying $2.2 or so Million credits - a price I was stunned to see but the Ford GT '05 was among my favorite high HP "go to" cars whether it be flat out XTrack, Daytona, Indy or virtually any of the road courses, and I had to have it! Anyway, I drove my butt off in the RB challenge's, got the $$, beat the car and myself half to death on a number of tracks atempting to tune it, ask'd a number of my buddies for H E L P!! all no avail and finally parked it,,, and gave up. NOW,, Thanks to your tune I find unknowing/unaware :-) opponents on line, talk them into racing the Ford GT - then proceed to "SHOW EM WHERE THE BEAR CRAPPED IN THE PERVERBIAL BUCKWHEAT"!! Thank you again buddy!!
     
  15. x_Lone_Wolf_x

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    I tried this tune today and got the weirdest result. Probably due to updates but the car goes straight ahead, don't even think about getting it around a corner.

    Also, camber is fixed at min 3.0/1.0

    Would you mind checking this out? I'm kind of wondering if this only occurs with me :/
     
  16. Gr8_Lakes

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  17. Gr8_Lakes

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    You're Z28 Race Car is sooo nice. I played with the tune on this car for quite a while and loved it, but kept taking second in the Apricot in Historic Cup. Ran it with your tune (brakes at 6,6), and killed it. 1.82 second win. Thanks, great job.
     
  18. Rosenrot420

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    I think my bug tune is a bit faster... I'm hitting 160-170
     
  19. mtfishnwa

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    I have tried almost all these tunes and love them. been very successful and happy with them. Even the '66 bug has been a lot of fun. have you, or are you planning any more tunes since the 1.10 update? I have a couple requests if you are interested. I would love to see a truly driveable RUF BTR, since your R3400 was so good. I'm also a corvette fan, particularly C6 z06 and zr1. Any advice here would be very much appreciated.