The fail wheel T500rs , not the official wheel after buying.

[ErikAndre71]

I have a T500RS with direct response and the DFGT (tried two) are far from direct compared to the T500RS.

I still stand by my statement. The DFGT is a plastic toy compared. This game have never simulated race cars well, It have nothing to do with the wheels connected to your PS3. If you really feel that wobbling anti direct wheel DFGT is better for you than the T500RS you go and use that. I have them both here and I know what I will continue to use.

Well in my case its the other way around, the directness of the DFGT is sloppy even on control sensitivity on max. And the T500RS is really direct. And please don't assume I'm talking about a road car, you have no idea what I drove in real life.

YES the directness of the real thing (race car) is far better than any wheels we talk about in this game, but you started to compare wheels and I can never agree that the DFGT is closer to the real thing than the T500RS.

Proves me your not listening again. Thread talking about steering directness not the steering feel.

Did you read my posts? I couldn't really listen to you, but I did my best on reading your full post. But there is a lot more to try to simulate a race car than directness. The "feel" of the car is just as important and I though I could bring it up in the same thread. If that was to much for you, my apologize.


Another thing that could help you out since we talk about GT5 here:

Option-Steering Controllers-Steering Settings.
If your power assisted steering is on it will never feel like a race car. It would make every thing feel sloppy.
Just a thought I have and if we still don't agree I can agree to that we don't agree.

And I tested the Ferrari F1 and in this race car I do agree with you, you have to turn the wheel way to much. But I never seem to use this car much as there is no other F1's to race.

And I reposted mainly because I was thinking of the power assisted steering that will not have race car directness in the T500RS

 

[ItsHim]

I'm sorry could be that I'm a bit slow today, but is this thread for real?

I tried to dig up an interview with Codemasters developers which has a nice bit about the problems they face in developing a racing game for multiple platforms,, but can't find it right now.

Bottom line was that the developer has to have a dead zone when using wheels as input.

Dear G12, it's one hell of a first post/thread to make your introduction here. Maybe you should settle down a bit and at least try to make your posts more readable. English isn't my first language and to be frank I can hardly make out what you are trying to say.

 

[Jav]

not thrustmasters? Then why do logitech wheels have the correct compromise in steering like dfgt and g27.. I think its more of both but I cant believe they call t500 rs officially supported because to me its officially useless for racing. Unacceptable for an official 700$ wheel.

Im pissed , they should have called this the official drift wheel or pedestrian driving wheel or actually the driver licencing in gt5

What a piece of **** i cant believe that 700$ useless for race cars and yet the DFGT is useful for racing and works even for drifting.

I really don't know what do you mean by direct steering and correct compromise... 900 degrees is 900 degrees in any wheel no matter the brand. No wheel has a real sensitivity adjustment in game, the only wheels that can be adjusted on the unit itself are the Fanatec wheels and quite frankly you have a way better wheel than any of what they have to offer at the moment.
Every Logitec user has the same steering sensitivity as you and had to get used to it before mastering it, give it some time and you'll be quicker than you've ever been before.

Told him this and he stood by GT5 as infallible.

Also why make two of the same threads, I'm surprised the mods haven't put them together or deleted/closed one.

Lol!! He surely rminds me of a certain user that's been banned several times on several accounts and yet keeps coming back...

 

[G12]

I really don't know what do you mean by direct steering and correct compromise... 900 degrees is 900 degrees in any wheel no matter the brand. No wheel has a real sensitivity adjustment in game, the only wheels that can be adjusted on the unit itself are the Fanatec wheels and quite frankly you have a way better wheel than any of what they have to offer at the moment.
Every Logitec user has the same steering sensitivity as you and had to get used to it before mastering it, give it some time and you'll be quicker than you've ever been before.


Lol!! He surely rminds me of a certain user that's been banned several times on several accounts and yet keeps coming back...

G27 and DFGT are 900 degrees and so is T500rs , the only difference is G27 and DFGT steers much faster which is probably a sensitivity. You will know it if you have both T500rs and G27 or DFGT , I have to steer about twice as much on the T500rs so its not just about getting used to it.

 

[left888]

G27 and DFGT are 900 degrees and so is T500rs , the only difference is G27 and DFGT steers much faster which is probably a sensitivity. You will know it if you have both T500rs and G27 or DFGT , I have to steer about twice as much on the T500rs so its not just about getting used to it.

I had a G27 before my T500, surely you are joking about the quality. G27 is gear driven, T500 is belt driven. The T500 has 1080° of rotation not 900°

The T500 is in a category leap years ahead of a G27.

 

[CJDA9]

lol sorry this is all i have to say.....

 

[left888]

lol sorry this is all i have to say.....

and that would be?

 

[Jav]

G27 and DFGT are 900 degrees and so is T500rs , the only difference is G27 and DFGT steers much faster which is probably a sensitivity.

That statement right there proves you have no clue about what you're saying.[/end thread]

 

[CJDA9]

I was just reading through this thread its funny i don't know its just cracks me up that he is comparing a dfgt to a t500rs. I am sorry if that sounded ignorant.

 

[LogiForce]

lol sorry this is all i have to say.....

and that would be?

I think he isn't good with punctuation. He missed a dot after the "lol" and used 5 dots at the end. One dot marks the end of a sentence, three dots suggests there is more he would want to share. However 5 dots means nothing. I will correct him.

Lol. Sorry but this is all that I have to say...

That's better. I hope you can read it now mate.

 

[G12]

I had a G27 before my T500, surely you are joking about the quality. G27 is gear driven, T500 is belt driven. The T500 has 1080° of rotation not 900°

The T500 is in a category leap years ahead of a G27.

If its 1080 then why do I have yo steer twice as much? Its because of the gear driven and belt driven?

 

[G12]

And I tested the Ferrari F1 and in this race car I do agree with you, you have to turn the wheel way to much. But I never seem to use this car much as there is no other F1's to T500RS

So yeah on the f1 car you have to steer around twice as much maybe more on the t500rs than if you used g27 or dfgt so its undeniably bad for racing.

 

[Spagetti69]

Have you cleared your systems cache?

 

[Jav]

I have got no clue why I'm doing this but here it goes...
The difference between 1080 degrees and 900 degrees isn't huge, noticeable? Yes, it will add between 1/8 and 1/4 to your lock to lock turning radius. That beign said, most production car based racing classes all arround the world use the stock steering rack on the cars. Anything upwards of GT3/WC-T/WC-GT/Gran Am GT/GT300 and such top tier classes may run quicker steering ratios.
Now, IIRC the T500 is supposed to self adjust to the different cars in GT5. Obviously PD got this part very wrong as the game/wheel interface is not doing the job properly.
If degrees of rotation is so important to you, you should get yourself a Fanatec wheel and adjust it to your liking. I personally run 500 degrees for GT5 on my wheel, 900 degrees for iRacing and 270 degrees for rfactor.

 

[Spagetti69]

Check the disc for signs of scratches.

 

[Jav]

This guy is a real joke! Haven't you been banned enough times Rev? What's this? Your 6th account in GTP? You've taken it too far this time kid, now you are bashing a company's reputation with your ridiculous claims? One would think that after beign banned 5 times before a person would learn, but apparently that's not the case.
Oh! And your little vissitor message to my profile has already been reported!

 

[Spagetti69]

Try deleting all your data then reinstalling.

 

[G12]

Try deleting all your data then reinstalling.

what data?

I have got no clue why I'm doing this but here it goes...
The difference between 1080 degrees and 900 degrees isn't huge, noticeable? Yes, it will add between 1/8 and 1/4 to your lock to lock turning radius. That beign said, most production car based racing classes all arround the world use the stock steering rack on the cars. Anything upwards of GT3/WC-T/WC-GT/Gran Am GT/GT300 and such top tier classes may run quicker steering ratios.
Now, IIRC the T500 is supposed to self adjust to the different cars in GT5. Obviously PD got this part very wrong as the game/wheel interface is not doing the job properly.
If degrees of rotation is so important to you, you should get yourself a Fanatec wheel and adjust it to your liking. I personally run 500 degrees for GT5 on my wheel, 900 degrees for iRacing and 270 degrees for rfactor.

On the F1 it actually adds 1:1+ I dont know what to say but the steering setting went completely wrong for the F1 , I read too that it sets its own degrees for cars. How did you set your degrees to 500 , you have CSRelite? Or what wheel

 

[JAMurraySCO]

Morning all, i recently upgraded from a G25 to T500 plus f1 rim.
First impressions, i was disapointed. I had read about and watched ISR vids regarding insane levels of FF.
My first outing on "the green hell" i was 6 seconds off mpb.
Started to freak that id just pished 620 sterling up the wall.

One month later.
Loving my t500. Really is night and day over g25 which is good wheel.
T500 almost feels like a real road car. Took a few weeks but have beat my lap times set on G25.
I find the wheel ultra responsive.

My F1 rim had to go back tho. Broken DRS button. Liked the feel off it but didnt reorder as i play F1 and would hammer that button.

Overall this is a gear wheel and combined with shifter Gt5 is as good as it gets for me.
Have to admit ive still not run the wheel on pc.
Ive read ps3 aint the best for FF and this wheel comes alive on pc.
Will wait untill Rfactor 2 and gtr3 before next pc build.
Only running ati hd5770 on current rig so would feel step down from gt5 on ps3.

 

[Terronium-12]

G12, stop double and triple posting.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Now you've awaked the Great Terronium, why would you anger the gentle giant. Seriously just listen to what we've said instead of keeping this charade about. You really don't want Terronium or any other mods on you, G12.

 

[Spagetti69]

Power on with. On controller then switch to a wheel, try that.

 

[msrfrog]

when I switched from a driving force to a csr, I was disappointed . I was expecting alot more. I do like the setup now.
mainly the pedals. I would be happy with the df wheel and csr pedals.
maybe it's just me but the logitec wheel felt more "gritty" and more communitive of the cars actions.

 

[Jav]

The main problem here is not the wheel but the game's lack of wheel support and adjustability, if sensitivity adjustability is so important to you buy Fanatec they make pretty nice products too.

 

[challenger1]

You have obviously made your mind up that the T500 isnt for you.So why not just return it and buy a far supierior dfgt wheel. That is what your trying to say right? Then all will be right with the world.

Ya,remember its "Not Rocket Science"!

 

[kingcars]

A perfect example of someone who isn't patient. You can't just plug a wheel in and expect perfection right out of the box. Well, unfortunately, thanks to GT5's lack of wheel options, thats kind of what youre stuck with, but it's not the wheel's fault. I just switched from a G25 to a GT3RS and I was very disappointed at first with how it felt in Live for Speed (the main sim I play right now). I much preferred how the G25 felt. Instead of immediately going on the internet exclaiming how terrible it is, I tried some other sims. GT Legends felt fantastic, then Race 07/GTR Evo felt absolutely amazing. This told me that something was wrong with how I had LFS set up. I finally pinpointed the issue and now LFS feels great again; now I'm spoiled by the new wheel. So with that said, plug that T500 into some better sims, spend some time with it, get it tweaked to your liking, and I bet you it will be lightyears better.

 

[thechosenwonton]

A perfect example of someone who isn't patient. You can't just plug a wheel in and expect perfection right out of the box. Well, unfortunately, thanks to GT5's lack of wheel options, thats kind of what youre stuck with, but it's not the wheel's fault. I just switched from a G25 to a GT3RS and I was very disappointed at first with how it felt in Live for Speed (the main sim I play right now). I much preferred how the G25 felt. Instead of immediately going on the internet exclaiming how terrible it is, I tried some other sims. GT Legends felt fantastic, then Race 07/GTR Evo felt absolutely amazing. This told me that something was wrong with how I had LFS set up. I finally pinpointed the issue and now LFS feels great again; now I'm spoiled by the new wheel. So with that said, plug that T500 into some better sims, spend some time with it, get it tweaked to your liking, and I bet you it will be lightyears better.

For folks that play this, maybe you share?

 

[kingcars]

For folks that play this, maybe you share?

The main thing I found with LFS is that if you have the ingame FFB set too high, it makes the wheel really heavy and doesn't really enhance the FFB at all. I run 100 FFB on the wheel and 13 FFB ingame. Drift mode is on 5 and spring and damper are -3...the rest of the on-wheel settings will be more personal preference. I run the wheel at 720 degrees and have the ingame wheel turn compensation at 1.0 so that the cars' steering input is exactly what I put into the wheel. Hope this helps.

 

[G12]

Just delete this thread since this is mainly for GT5 official wheel and not other simulators

 

[tikm]

I switched from a g27 to a t500rs recently and the only thing that took some getting used to was the extra power. The only time the t500rs felt bad was online with an f10. Not sure if was lag or something because the wheel is fine with the f10 offline.