The Ford GT in action against it's competition !

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I guess the GT is just faster in the high gears, but it was close. Stick around for the end to see a cool photo of the photo finish !
 
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What would make this a proper test is if both cars were completly stock. Just sayin...
 
My Ford was Stock ! all I did was add an Exhaust and changed the air filter. That's not exactly tuned. And of course, there were racing tires.
 
Exactly. Thats not stock. Stock would be completly stock, no added parts and no racing tyres. And that ferrari wasnt stock either therefore making it a false test.
 
The F430 Scuderia was created because the F430 underperformed when compared to the stock Ford GT, and so if I added a racing filter and exhaust it still is much more stock than the Scuderia.

And I'm a Ferrari guy !
 
Notice that the Ford isn't as good int the turns. That is hardly a Ferrari Slayer now is it? it beat it by a few tenths
 
If a man barely kills a dragon hes still a dragon killer... just sayin. No dragons are real though :(
 
My Ford was Stock ! all I did was add an Exhaust and changed the air filter. That's not exactly tuned. And of course, there were racing tires.
The exhaust adds power, as does the air filter, and racing tyres add loads of extra grip. No wonder it's a Ferrari slayer...

Now, try it again and this time compare apples to apples by leaving them both stock. (As you seem to be unaware of the definition of stock, here is what it means no mods and leave the tyres as they are)
 
A Ferrari on an oval??? LOL!!
Yeah, that'll never happen...

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Yeah, that'll never happen...

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My god man! Did you actually think I taught it had never happend? LOL!!!!!

I was ironic about using a car that is made for corners (430 Scuderia is) on an oval..

geeeezz..
 
Guys, do you know your cars? The F430 Scuderia is not a Stock F430, it has more than just an air filter and beefed up exhaust. My goodness they even took the rugs out of the car, it's lighter than the Ford. The Ford GT would smoke the regular F430 on any track, it's a fact. Why don't you guys check real life lap times at any given circuit. If you prove me wrong, then I'm wrong, but I'm sure the Ford GT beat the F430 at the top gear test track. So yes, a Ferrari slayer it is because that was it's competition in 2006.
 
But the definition of stock is straight out of the factory with the parts that the factory installed. Nothing aftermarket. Yes, ok, maybe the GT might beat the regular 430 but thats not what you were testing. Your video showed A Ford GT, a 430 Scuderia racing around an oval. Thats not testing anything major like cornering, its only test speed and the other problem is that the Ford GT was not stock. The 430 Scuderia may be not a stock 430, but its a car that comes out of the factory like that therefore making it stock.

F430 Scuderia is sitting pretty with a 7:39 around the Nurburgring. Just sayin. Oh yea and it has a 1:19.7 round Top Gear Test Track.
 
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But the definition of stock is straight out of the factory with the parts that the factory installed. Nothing aftermarket. Yes, ok, maybe the GT might beat the regular 430 but thats not what you were testing. Your video showed A Ford GT, a 430 Scuderia racing around an oval. Thats not testing anything major like cornering, its only test speed and the other problem is that the Ford GT was not stock. The 430 Scuderia may be not a stock 430, but its a car that comes out of the factory like that therefore making it stock.

I'm aware of that, but my point is that it's known as the Ferrari beater, I never said it's a Scuderia beater. The Ford GT was built specifically to beat Ferrari's in the 60s and it did exactly that for years. Now in the production car world, the new Ford GT was built to be faster than it's mid priced supercar competitor, the F430 and it is. I mean, this is a car company that builds economy cars. What econo box car company can create a car that out performs a Ferrari? Maybe Nissan can, now that the new GT-R was produced, not sure, might have to check some more lap times !!
 
I never said it wasnt a Ferrari beater. I was just saying that if you want to prove that accuratly in a video, both cars need to be factory stock.
 
Ok so after getting ridiculed for not racing my Ford GT in stock form in my initial race posted in the OP, I went and ran another test between 3 cars completely stock with Sports Soft tires. After running about 10 laps per car, the end result was what I expected; the Ford GT posted the quickest lap time in just my first lap around despite having less Horse Power!

Lamborghini Murcielago SV
vs.
Ferrari 458 Italia
vs.
Ford GT
 
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I compared the GT against the Murcielago SV and the Ferrari 458 Italia. All 3 cars were stock with Sports Softs on. I was shocked to see my Ford GT's lap time on top despite it having less Horse Power. It's also a much older car too.

Enjoy and thanks for watching.
 
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My thoughts on your findings (experimental error aside) are that the GT would have better torque than the 458 and better handling than the SV...
 
I really feel the 458 can do better than that.

Good video, good lines 👍

Edit: It does. Fully stock Sports softs fitted Italia 2:08.141

Holy mighty torque, Ford GT: 2:07.794.

Your findings are just about right. But Ford GT seems like a tire eater, I got red front tires here and there, when the 458 kept the tires on the right temp most of the time.
 
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Fumes posted this on the tuning forum the other day. He's saying Ford GT is actually messed up, in that if you have ASM set to off, with Ford GT it is actually on. So if you have ASM off on all cars, with Ford GT you need to actually switch it on to have the same settings as the other cars. And vice versa. Might have some effect?
 
I really feel the 458 can do better than that.

Good video, good lines 👍

Edit: It does. Fully stock Sports softs fitted Italia 2:08.141

Holy mighty torque, Ford GT: 2:07.794.

Your findings are just about right. But Ford GT seems like a tire eater, I got red front tires here and there, when the 458 kept the tires on the right temp most of the time.

You need to move the Ford GT brake bias backwards... it seems like the same issue people were complaining about in GT4. Too much front brake bias, overloads the front tires and makes it understeer under braking badly. In GT4, without dynamic temperature indicators and with the unkillable ABS, we couldn't quite tell that this was what was happening... but that's apparently what it is.

You'll note that even when you give the Ford GT a massively rearward brake bias, it's still stable under braking. This is your clue that the brake bias is off.

Not quite sure I agree with the idea that the Ford GT has ASM reversed. I tried using it, and I could feel it working when it was on.
 
Not quite sure I agree with the idea that the Ford GT has ASM reversed. I tried using it, and I could feel it working when it was on.

Turned "on" ASM and I could feel it kicking in in just about every corner, the engine stopped revving, the car wouldn't accelerate, and the overall laptime got worse by 3 full seconds, 2:10.887

Gonna try the brake bias thing.

EDIT: Brake bias DEFINITIVELY raises the ride quality.

Set the bias to 3F 7R and the lap time fell down to 2:07.172 in the Ford GT.
 
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Yes I would definitely shift the brake balance towards the rear of the Ford. Very impressive lap times posted here, I'm going to retry and see if I could shave 2 seconds off my lap by tuning the cars. I initially ran them with default settings.
 
Fumes posted this on the tuning forum the other day. He's saying Ford GT is actually messed up, in that if you have ASM set to off, with Ford GT it is actually on. So if you have ASM off on all cars, with Ford GT you need to actually switch it on to have the same settings as the other cars. And vice versa. Might have some effect?

uuhm, wth? I've driven 1000's of miles in my GT, and it breaks out like a maniac. ASM is not on for me!
 
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