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[Samus]

The cars already have low rear DF.

Exactly. You can't take away downforce that doesn't exist with DRS.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Okay, so the new Monza looks awkward ... but it might be a blessing in disguise.

In its current format, Curva Grande won't provide much of a challenge for the 2017 cars with the increased downforce. But the new format is now an extended high speed straight into a quick right flick - one that won't be aero dependent - and an immediate heavy braking zone where the drivers have to move laterally to take the optimal line.

 

[Barra333]

When was the last time curva grande was a challenge in dry conditions?

 

[GTPorsche]

When was the last time curva grande was a challenge in dry conditions?

Probably early in the 1960s. Maybe.

Then again it was a bit more open radius so maybe not.

 

[Kingofweasles]

Okay, so the new Monza looks awkward ... but it might be a blessing in disguise.

In its current format, Curva Grande won't provide much of a challenge for the 2017 cars with the increased downforce. But the new format is now an extended high speed straight into a quick right flick - one that won't be aero dependent - and an immediate heavy braking zone where the drivers have to move laterally to take the optimal line.

The new Monza development is supposedly for motorcycle racing. I haven't heard any plans for F1 to use that version of Curva Grande if and/or when it's conpleted.

 

[DK]

Now about a crash, thank goodness Maldonado is gone.

Who knows, maybe Sauber survive long enough to have another breakdown in communications.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

The new Monza development is supposedly for motorcycle racing. I haven't heard any plans for F1 to use that version of Curva Grande if and/or when it's conpleted.

Read the article @Samus posted.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Read the article @Samus posted.

The problem is that some of that seems to contradict the document they've used as a source, or at least that the document itself seems self-contradictory.

 

[Dennisch]

Onboard footage Baku.

 

[GTPorsche]

Is the brick fort/castle/monastery whatever it is really going to be unprotected? Certainly the potential for a car hitting that is there... why not put some kind of energy absorbing barrier in front of it. I realize it's already narrow through that section but safety...

 

[prisonermonkeys]

why not put some kind of energy absorbing barrier in front of it

In the battle between a Formula One car and a centuries-old fortress, which one do you think is going to come off second best?

It's narrow enough as is. Putting an additional barrier there will only make it tighter. The last thing anyone wants is a repeat of Superleague Formula's disaster in Beijing a few years ago where a section of the circuit was so narrow that it needed a permanent yellow flag and the FIA refused to acknowledge it as a championship round. Technically it was run as a national event with no points on offer.

 

[Tired Tyres]

They run in places like that and still have to cover traditional race tracks in the cheats charter that is run off tarmac?

 

[ukfan758]

Onboard footage Baku.

It's a little concerning seeing all of those concrete walls lining the main straight, hopefully there are plans to add tec pro barriers.

 

[Sureboss]

Is the brick fort/castle/monastery whatever it is really going to be unprotected? Certainly the potential for a car hitting that is there... why not put some kind of energy absorbing barrier in front of it. I realize it's already narrow through that section but safety...

One of the videos about the track I've seen said the castle wall was going to be protected.

 

[GTPorsche]

In the battle between a Formula One car and a centuries-old fortress, which one do you think is going to come off second best?

It's narrow enough as is. Putting an additional barrier there will only make it tighter. The last thing anyone wants is a repeat of Superleague Formula's disaster in Beijing a few years ago where a section of the circuit was so narrow that it needed a permanent yellow flag and the FIA refused to acknowledge it as a championship round. Technically it was run as a national event with no points on offer.

The car, well ahead of the driver. Concrete barriers are bad enough. Brick and mortar is worse.

 

[TenEightyOne]

It's a little concerning seeing all of those concrete walls lining the main straight, hopefully there are plans to add tec pro barriers.

There are many main straights that have a concrete wall on either side - the chances of anything other than a slide-along impact are very low there.

The car, well ahead of the driver. Concrete barriers are bad enough. Brick and mortar is worse.

Agreed, it's the stop that kills you.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Agreed, it's the stop that kills you.

Huh. If only there was a way to protect drivers in the event of an accident.

It's a little concerning seeing all of those concrete walls lining the main straight, hopefully there are plans to add tec pro barriers.

It's pretty obvious from the video that work is nowhere near finished. After all, the site office appears to be in the middle of the track kust after the first corner, there are extensive sections without catch fencing, and there is what appear to be a mosque at the bottom of the old circuit that doesn't have any barriers in place yet.

 

[Jimlaad43]

They'll cover the fort up, don't worry.

 

[RazorSharkz]

That is a cool looking location. Looks fast too, only two weeks until we know for sure.

 

[Telstar]

The city is nice, but the track itself looks rather unexciting in the video.

 

[TenEightyOne]

With the funding now in place Las Vegas may appear on the calendar as early as next year. BBC.

 

[Lizard]

With the funding now in place Las Vegas may appear on the calendar as early as next year. BBC.

Wasn't the Las Vegas GP one of the worst tracks in history?

 

[LumpiestFish]

Wasn't the Las Vegas GP one of the worst tracks in history?

It's not like they'd be restricted to using just that track.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Wasn't the Las Vegas GP one of the worst tracks in history?

Yes, indeed it was. The article notes that the former layout is not one that will be revisited.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Yes, indeed it was. The article notes that the former layout is not one that will be revisited.

They could use that layout as a carpark for the new one, it might perform better being used for it's intended purpose.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Bernie is getting even more ridiculous as the weeks go on
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/interlagos-f1-race-in-danger-of-being-axed-for-2017-782102/

 

[prisonermonkeys]

If the work, which was to be completed as a condition of the contract, is not finished, then that doesn't sound ridiculous at all.

 

[GTPorsche]

Today in "Bernie says something a senile person would say" news.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Bernie has been talking about moving the Italian Grand Prix to Imola again this weekend.

After watching Baku, the cynic in me wonders if Monza is only proposing their changes to Curva Grande for the sake of preserving their status as the fastest circuit on the calendar.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Bernie has been talking about moving the Italian Grand Prix to Imola again this weekend.

After watching Baku, the cynic in me wonders if Monza is only proposing their changes to Curva Grande for the sake of preserving their status as the fastest circuit on the calendar.

Mexico have already stolen that accolade anyway.