The future of Corvette...

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Should the name Corvette become a new brand?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 8.3%

  • No

    Votes: 50 83.3%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 5 8.3%
  • Total voters
    60
  • Poll closed .
vfrmaverick
Sorry 'kiddo', but as ive stated im a porsche fanboy and take my hat off to the undeniable advantage corvettes have. And now taking this as a way on personal attacks. Youre a fun one, i hope your 27k posts havent been like this. Otherwise id like to know who you paid off to stay around.
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Like when you said we were making lots of dumb comments, & that's what happens due to fanboyism & stupidity?

Pot meets kettle again.
Fact stands in just about every argument the corvettes have shown why they are world class performance cars. All youve done is argue about the job of a mechanic. To which i answered by saying yes it is harder to change brakes on a high performance car than an econobox.
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Point out where I said that because if I remember correctly, I used the Camaro ZL1 as an example, a car that does not have carbon ceramics like the ZR1.

The only thing I've argued is that ceramic brakes are no longer a rare part to find on sports cars like they were when the Enzo came around. Thus, several mechanics know exactly how to service them as quickly as they can service cars with less complex brakes b/c they're still brakes.

I believe TheCracker is also trying to make a similar point by asking what makes them so much more complex over a Z06 or a regular Corvette beyond, "Enzo-brakes", which is where I argued that that's not exactly as amazing as people hype it to be considering the age of that design. Again, not once did I make any mention of the performance.
 
McLaren
Like when you said we were making lots of dumb comments, & that's what happens due to fanboyism & stupidity?

Pot meets kettle again.

Point out where I said that because if I remember correctly, I used the Camaro ZL1 as an example, a car that does not have carbon ceramics like the ZR1.

The only thing I've argued is that ceramic brakes are no longer a rare part to find on sports cars like they were when the Enzo came around. Thus, several mechanics know exactly how to service them as quickly as they can service cars with less complex brakes b/c they're still brakes.
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you know the funny thing about pot/kettle argument? it means youre just as bad as what you claim i am ;)

And i used a Z06, a car that also does not have carbon brakes. And then left one to ponder that with the extra care and work of ceramic brakes that it would be a tougher job. And pretending a mechanic that works only on cobalts and aveos to work on one of those is just plain dumb. Someone who works on a high performance shop will likely not have bigger issues with them compared to things like GT3rs, f458, etc. But to a chevy tech having 1 car thats different than everything else he does will catch him off guard. Simple as that. Hence why they have corvette specialists for the zr1, just like nissan has GTR specialists.
 
CorvetteGuy80
Yes Indeedy, but not only that, but Chevrolet is/has become an economy/family brand & should stay that way In my opinion. It should no longer have any RWD/R-AWD vehicles at all. Pontiac should to be resurrected to cater to the RWD/R-AWD sporty/performance niche. GMC to cater to those that want a pick up truck, full size van, SUV or Ute(Sprint/Caballero) from GM. Cadillac would be the top luxury/performance (RWD/R_AWD across the line up) brand. Buick can also stick around offering understated luxury(mostly FWD/F-AWD, save for the brands flagship model & a coupe/convertible).
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Ha we had to help them out already let's not start to confuse them. I think if it were to remain as Corvette being a model and not make is a good idea. It's been that way since the beginning of its roots.
 
vfrmaverick
And i used a Z06, a car that also does not have carbon brakes. And then left one to ponder that with the extra care and work of ceramic brakes that it would be a tougher job.
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I never said it wouldn't be a tougher job. I only argued at this day & age, a carbon ceramic brake can be serviced as efficiently as a car without them. Does it take longer? Probably. Is it tougher? At first, possibly. But, I'll put money on it that a mechanic who knows how to service Z06 /ZL1 brakes as quick as possible wouldn't take significantly longer to service a ZR1; the differences in the brakes are not that drastic besides the ceramic pad & some upgraded parts. A guy who can service even a Grand Sport could probably figure out a ZR1's service guide after a while.
And pretending a mechanic that works only on cobalts and aveos to work on one of those is just plain dumb.
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No one has said this....
Someone who works on a high performance shop will likely not have bigger issues with them compared to things like GT3rs, f458, etc. But to a chevy tech having 1 car thats different than everything else he does will catch him off guard. Simple as that. Hence why they have corvette specialists for the zr1, just like nissan has GTR specialists.
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Except it's not that different. The ZR1 isn't that much of a technical advancement over a Z06 which isn't that significantly different from a Grand Sport, just as a Grand Sport isn't far off a base C6.

No one is denying GM has ZR1 specialists, but the car is still a Corvette at its heart & Corvettes have never been difficult cars to keep maintained & are still somewhat primitive; as mentioned earlier, it's why they remain bullet proof vehicles.

In comparison to GT-R specialists, there is nothing in Nissan's lineup like the GT-R. There are quite a few models in the Camaro/Corvette line up that eventually link a chain to the ZR1.
 
vfrmaverick
Fact stands in just about every argument the corvettes have shown why they are world class performance cars.
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pretending a mechanic that works only on cobalts and aveos to work on one of those is just plain dumb.
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How is this relevant to the discussion about brakes or anything McLaren said?
 
I'll bet the guy working on a ZR1 must have had at least 4 hours of extra training for the car, and like with most new/specials models, have a shopmanual lying around.

ZR1.
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Z06.
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They look so different.

:rolleyes:
 
The problem with the corvette maintenance is the vast amount of sensors which serve to control everything and log everything. Nothing else from Chevy comes close, except possible the ZL1. While the mechanical bits aren't groundbreaking like the GTR, the electronics keeping tabs on everything are nearly as good and aware of everything that's done in the car.
 
Slashfan
Oh the uproar that would cause....
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I just don't see why that would cause an Uproar. For example the Mustang name breaks off to become it's own brand, but it's still owned by the Ford Motor Company and it's still being produced by them, it's just won't be labeled as a Ford anymore. I don't see why the fans would be upset.

EDIT: Wow almost 30 "No's", I guess you guy's are really against the idea :lol:
 
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CorvetteGuy80
I just don't see why that would cause an Uproar. For example the Mustang name breaks off to become it's own brand, but it's still owned by the Ford Motor Company and it's still being produced by them, it's just won't be labeled as a Ford anymore. I don't see why the fans would be upset.

EDIT: Wow almost 30 "No's", I guess you guy's are really against the idea :lol:
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Just because its not labeled a Ford. LOL

The same applies here as the Vette. Been around nearly 50 years, no point in changing it now.
 
They can call it what they want, though I'll call it a Chevy like I call the Viper a Dodge. The name on the hood doesn't mean much. I don't think the Corvette suffers anything from the Chevy name, it probably benefits Chevy more than anything. Corvette, and by extension Chevy, already challenge Ferrari and the like so I see no reason why they can't be mentioned side by side.

Changing the Corvette design drastically doesn't make sense to me either. Mid engine Corvette is pointless. AWD Corvette is just silly.
 
There is absolutely no need to branch off Corvette.

The only possible outcome would be tarnishing it's image when they go to expand the lineup to other performance oriented vehicles that aren't 2-door, RWD, V8 sports cars.
 
Front wheel drive, I4 in a Corvette. That would be Insta-kill for the Corvette. :lol:
 
As long as it acceptable to have a V8 in a car, they just can't stick anything else in there. Maybe a small super or turbocharged V8, but nothing else. It just wouldn't be a Corvette without it.
 
People said a supercar wasn't Audi or a 4wd estate wasn't Ferrari. Human perspective changes once we witness the product.
 
obsessive rules
People said a supercar wasn't Audi or a 4wd estate wasn't Ferrari. Human perspective changes once we witness the product.
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That's different, those are car brands. It's harder to change the perceived 'heart' of a single model of car, especially when it has such a long heritage of having a V8 under the bonnet. That's not to say that they will never put something like a V6 in it, but i'd imagine that a V8 engined Vette will always be the volume seller.
 
TheCracker
That's different, those are car brands. It's harder to change the perceived 'heart' of a single model of car, especially when it has such a long heritage of having a V8 under the bonnet. That's not to say that they will never put something like a V6 in it, but i'd imagine that a V8 engined Vette will always be the volume seller.
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I'm not saying out the 6 in the vette, put the 6 in a completely new, smaller performance car.
 
The point of this thread is to ask should corvette be an independent brand, I'm thinking as if it will be.
 
I think the Vette should stay a Chevrolet. The reason for this is because if Corvette became a separate brand and GM decided to cut a division again, the division making the least amount of money will be the first to go. It's not really hurting GM for Chevy to have one niche car in the lineup that doesn't make a big profit, as opposed to GM having an entire brand that doesn't make a big profit.

This is why I don't really agree with SRT becoming a separate brand. When (I was going to say if, but who are we kidding?) Chrysler Corp. gets into financial trouble again, which brand do you think is going to be the first to get cut?
 
If you want a 6 banger in a Chevy sports car go get a base model Camaro.
 
88FoxBodyFan
This is why I don't really agree with SRT becoming a separate brand. When (I was going to say if, but who are we kidding?) Chrysler Corp. gets into financial trouble again, which brand do you think is going to be the first to get cut?
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That was almost certainly why Chrysler did it. It's a sacrificial lamb that can be chopped/sold away if financial or CAFE problems become too much of an issue to deal with.
 
Slashfan
If you want a 6 banger in a Chevy sports car go get a base model Camaro.
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To be honest. I don't want a Chevy at all, I live in the uk making a cam or vette quite a stupid choice of car.
 
I don't see much of a problem with with the idea of a V6 base Corvette as long as the price was adjusted accordingly. The gas mileage would be incredible, the power to weight ratio would be nearly as good as a normal C5, and it would still give the looks that most buyers are looking for. I don't see any reason to compare it to the Camaro in performance either, as in the 90s the Z28 was nearly as fast as the vette. People who want the looks can get the looks and a better pedestrian package.
 
obsessive rules
To be honest. I don't want a Chevy at all, I live in the uk making a cam or vette quite a stupid choice of car.
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Having a car in the UK is a stupid choice to begin with. With all the taxes, insanely high fuel prices, and having to pay a fee just to drive into London.

Ef that.
 
Exactly. I suggested it to make money for the big bad v8s.

Anyway, remember the rumour of the c7

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I heard it would be turbocharged, an mr and a v6 hybrid. And a v8. And an fr. Ok that's not the point, I'm saying would you be happy with these looks and a turbo v6 producing 600bhp with electric assistance and mounted low down in the middle?

sumbrownkid
Having a car in the UK is a stupid choice to begin with. With all the taxes, insanely high fuel prices, and having to pay a fee just to drive into London.

Ef that.
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Well. I live in Carlisle. You get no c-charge there, get a tax ring a car, no road tax and there won't be much power meaning cheap insurance. It'll also be economical so you get more use of your fuel.
 
I guess you're not really a fan of realities, price, performance, and sales needed to keep a company afloat.
 
On a real world road are you really gonna use a zr1 to its full potential? No.

A smaller, lighter car will ultimately be better on a real road and if vette make it right it could be faster.
 
Why does it need a V6 when the V8 already gets 30+mpg hwy?
 

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