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You wouldn't bother replying if you didn't care. You would just look at the post, and brush it off.No one cares.
Plus, part of the experience is watching it as it airs, which I don't think you did.
Also I didn't, but I wasn't spoiled, and was watching it at a rate of 1 episode a week because that's how CR streamed it. The difference was hype was everywhere by the time I was watching it (The hype can be annoying, like with those that get way too into Naruto, DBZ, Bleach, etc.), not back when it was first airing, and then it got way more popular after people freaked out over a certain event in episode 3.
Character development, dialogue, story, pacing, and so much more. This is the better Gen Urobochi work (He wrote the novels for Fate/Zero, and was the scriptwriter for Madoka) IMO.TC, in what way Fate/Zero is better than Madoka?
There is a very good reason as to why both seasons of Fate/Zero rank higher than Madoka on MAL, despite the fact Madoka has absolutely IMMENSE hype surrounding it (To the point of being insanely ridiculous) that makes Naruto's seem nonexistant, and Fate/Zero doesn't have as big of hype. In fact, compared to Madoka's hype, it's nonexistant as well as Madoka's swallows Fate/Zero's hype whole.
They didn't, and I did think there were consequences, as you are erasing something that was part of the world the entire time. Plus, what will happen to her?Cano has a good point. The deeper, more thought provoking aspects of the show seems to have flown completely over your head.
For example, did you ever give much thought to the consequences of Madokas wish?
That must be why you feel less thought provoking shows are better. Like Kore wa Zombie, Infinite Stratos, And Nichijou.
I get there are consequences to becoming a magical girl, Madoka may have made the world worse with her final wish (We won't know until the third movie) despite the fact it's the reset ending I've seen so many times before, there are so many pains they've gone through (Every magical girl suffered), nobody should become a magical girl unless you want them to become crazy witches (Speaking of this, how did magical girls appear in the show in the first place along with Kyuubey?), it makes you think, especially near the end but I've seen better shows. Now mind you, I don't find Madoka bad. It's a fairly good show with interesting concepts, there are just plenty of shows that I personally feel are better.
IS: Infinite Stratos wasn't as thought-provoking, but I found it to be the better show because of the story, and the characters (Outside the meh harem you give up on after a few episodes. People seem to think "OMG, fanservice and harem aspects? Knock off a point for quality."). It was interesting to see what a female-dominated society was like, as in the women are more important than the men, and the past events leading up to where society began to restructure.
Nichijou was a riot, and the characters, they were just so good. Though it's harder to compare Nichijou to Madoka because it's a slice-of-life show. How do you go about explaining the plot being strong as it's slice-of-life? They have to be analyzed differently.
Kore wa Zombie desu Ka?, that one, I absolutely loved the characters and story. They were so well-developed (In season 1 that is, in season 2 things go to hell), and that story, quite touching even though it's something you've seen before.
And to put in something in here, there's a show I've seen with far more thought-provoking elements than Madoka, Shangri-La, but that show wasn't as good (I found it just good, mainly for what it was) due to the story and character development suffering from trying to cram too much into 24 episodes. What does that say? I found a more thought-provoking show worse than Madoka. There are others as well like Appleseed (Movie), both seasons of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, Last Exile: Fam, the Silver Wing, Clannad (Season 1), and more.
Just because something is thought-provoking, doesn't mean it automatically is better than a non-thought-provoking show. Take Mars of Destruction, a really awful (But likable because you're laughing at how bad it is) OVA.
There was a message out there, what would we be doing if there is life on Mars, and we destroyed that?
However, the (rather weak) message couldn't back up the show as everything else was complete and utter 🤬. Character development? They're just there. Story? Been there, done that and it's too simple and weak.
Something like A Dark Rabbit Has Seven Lives which isn't thought-provoking at all is better than that as it had better character development, a better story, and not to mention it was more entertaining.
I do wonder how I'll view Madoka after I watch stuff like Legend of the Galactic Heroes (I've heard it's very thought-provoking, and intelligent), and magical girl shows like Nanoha, Princess Tutu, and various other older magical girl series that apparently broke the mold a bit. Oh, and finish Sailor Moon.
Since you're in super defending Madoka Magica mode, I'm curious, what do you have to say to this guy who let the insane hype for Madoka get to him, to the point he dissected the entire show? I feel he gives it too much crap.
http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=animeatt&aid=8069&attid=7858
What....? If you skipped straight to just the action scenes and skipped over those important bits that made it so good...I am a big fan of Fate/Zero but there were a lot of parts that I skipped through. Madoka is different.
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