The Last of Us Part II
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- catamount39
YES! 
The first game is my all time favorite, the best ever made. While this was a bit of a feels trip, and I have a feeling Ellie may be alone this time, I cannot wait for this game to come out. The atmosphere is intense, and Ellie looks like she's going to continue to defend her title as one of the awesomest characters ever done for a game, heck for a story. Curious to see how she got to this vengeful state. 
The first game is my all time favorite, the best ever made. While this was a bit of a feels trip, and I have a feeling Ellie may be alone this time, I cannot wait for this game to come out. The atmosphere is intense, and Ellie looks like she's going to continue to defend her title as one of the awesomest characters ever done for a game, heck for a story. Curious to see how she got to this vengeful state. 
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I'm going to find and kill every last one of them.
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- HamiltonMP427
Said Carl Grimes wait a minute...
I feel he will, it will make a great impact on the story.
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- catamount39
Actually I think he already is. I may be reading into it too much, but "Valley of the shadow of death", somehow points to Joel being merely an image in Ellie's head during this game, like she's gone a bit nuts after his death and he's "guiding her". What does it for me is her "response" after Joel speaks. She's not really looking at him, and she speaks a thought rather than replies to Joel.
McLaren
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Seen this theory a couple times. Not going to discredit it since it's hard to know just what's going on in this scene beyond a lot of death, but others have questioned why Joel would be physically wielding a gun & his reflection appearing in the blood if he's nothing more than a spirit. I think him appearing out of the light may be giving more credit than due for this theory.
It does though, show how amazingly talented ND is; this is the pure definition of a teaser.
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- catamount39
I know he seemed real, but other games who've shown "a person in the characters head", made him seem like he/she was actually there. Only reason I didn't toss out my theory about that. But yeah eitherway I'm super curious to see Naughty Dog have done.Seen this theory a couple times. Not going to discredit it since it's hard to know just what's going on in this scene beyond a lot of death, but others have questioned why Joel would be physically wielding a gun & his reflection appearing in the blood if he's nothing more than a spirit. I think him appearing out of the light may be giving more credit than due for this theory.
It does though, show how amazingly talented ND is; this is the pure definition of a teaser.
McLaren
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Personally, for now, I'm going to remain optimistic that he's real.I know he seemed real, but other games who've shown "a person in the characters head", made him seem like he/she was actually there. Only reason I didn't toss out my theory about that. But yeah eitherway I'm super curious to see Naughty Dog have done.
Only because his death & spirit following Ellie around is exactly the kind of thing that ND could pull off, and be done in a twist towards the end/halfway point. I'm not ready for those feels.
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- Nismonath5
Ohmigosh I have been waiting for this announcement so badly!!!!! 
YAAAAAASSSSS!!!! Can't wait to see what the plot's about...
As much as Joel could be dead and all that, there's always the "What if" that Naughty Dog might have made it super misleading...
YAAAAAASSSSS!!!!
Can't wait to see what the plot's about...As much as Joel could be dead and all that, there's always the "What if" that Naughty Dog might have made it super misleading...
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- SPhilli
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I played the first game only once through, not because I didn't like it or anything, but because it was an extremely emotional game to play, nothing I've experienced in other games. Incredibly good story, characters, music, and overall quality. Think I might grab the first one on the PS4 and replay it.
I can't wait to play this one!
I can't wait to play this one!
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- GTP_SEMS
Remember the first game, had big emotional weight to it that I was exhausted at the end 
but it's one of my all time favorite games. People calling for ND to dive deep into Ellie's sexuality but I prefer if they don't and do it subtly and not be a focal point.
but it's one of my all time favorite games. People calling for ND to dive deep into Ellie's sexuality but I prefer if they don't and do it subtly and not be a focal point.So here's what I think the main story will be about;
We all remember the end of the original, where Joel took Ellie out of the surgery room, then killed Marlene and lied about it all to Ellie as they were heading to his brother's place. They obviously stayed there as it was a safe haven for them. That was until remaining Fireflies managed to track down and destroy the place, killing everyone besides Ellie and Joel. Ellie has made it her mission to eliminate all the Fireflies by tracking down the little pockets of society where they call home and destroying and murdering any found Fireflies, getting revenge for lying to her (she believes what Joel said to her at the end of the original TLOU) and for attacking Tommy and everyone at that safe haven.
How do I think it'll end if they go with that or something similar? Well, Ellie finds out the truth eventually, realises what she's done, blames Joel then kills him as a result. It's a stretch but holy crap that would be a hell of a plot twist.
According to developers, Ellie's story is about hate and revenge, so that's the best and most logical way to go about it and still ties directly into the original game. Obviously there will be underlying subplots and everything, but I believe that's going to be the main jist of things.
*SPOILER WARNING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL GAME BELOW*
We all remember the end of the original, where Joel took Ellie out of the surgery room, then killed Marlene and lied about it all to Ellie as they were heading to his brother's place. They obviously stayed there as it was a safe haven for them. That was until remaining Fireflies managed to track down and destroy the place, killing everyone besides Ellie and Joel. Ellie has made it her mission to eliminate all the Fireflies by tracking down the little pockets of society where they call home and destroying and murdering any found Fireflies, getting revenge for lying to her (she believes what Joel said to her at the end of the original TLOU) and for attacking Tommy and everyone at that safe haven.
How do I think it'll end if they go with that or something similar? Well, Ellie finds out the truth eventually, realises what she's done, blames Joel then kills him as a result. It's a stretch but holy crap that would be a hell of a plot twist.
According to developers, Ellie's story is about hate and revenge, so that's the best and most logical way to go about it and still ties directly into the original game. Obviously there will be underlying subplots and everything, but I believe that's going to be the main jist of things.
I do know this. I find this rather strange that you'd tell me to put it in a spoiler when it's just a theory and other people in this thread have openly talked about theories with no calls to add a spoiler.
And, most people would know what happened in the last game as it's pretty obvious what happens when you watch the trailer and know that Ellie is obviously atill alive.
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Well you've got a bolded spoiler warning in your previous post, and I felt that a spoiler tag would do a better job than that sort of warning. And when you say that this thread is full of spoilers, there is no need of a warning in the first place. I think at this point everyone should know the plot to TLOU anyways, so no harm about discerning spoilers here.
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- catamount39
What if she found out the Fireflies killed her mom and what they said before was a cover up?Yeah I went on a limb there as Joel will likely die in this game, so that was less of a theory, and more of a hope there.
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If you haven't played the first game, you have no business being in this thread anyway... So let the spoilers run free!
I also suspect that she is tracking down and killing Fireflies. I don't think it likely that Joel would go along with going around actively seeking out trouble, so him being dead also seems like a very possible scenario, as well as motivation for Ellie's rampage. I hope the game will continue to feature a group of two, if not more, throughout most of the game, as it offers a great way for character development via dialogue throughout actual gameplay. The original game was a masterpiece in character driven story, and I hope this will be no different.
All this said, I was hoping we would see other parts of the world too, as well as get some more insight into the beginning of the outbreak.
I also suspect that she is tracking down and killing Fireflies. I don't think it likely that Joel would go along with going around actively seeking out trouble, so him being dead also seems like a very possible scenario, as well as motivation for Ellie's rampage. I hope the game will continue to feature a group of two, if not more, throughout most of the game, as it offers a great way for character development via dialogue throughout actual gameplay. The original game was a masterpiece in character driven story, and I hope this will be no different.
All this said, I was hoping we would see other parts of the world too, as well as get some more insight into the beginning of the outbreak.
