The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

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I was under the impression this thread was a culmination of all those series/events. Can you post a link?

EDIT: nevermind I checked the OP and it does say there's a separate thread. I'll find it, probably at the top.
 
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I was under the impression this thread was a culmination of all those series/events. Can you post a link?

EDIT: nevermind I checked the OP and it does say there's a separate thread. I'll find it, probably at the top.
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No, we are trying to seperate the topics from this thread because its far too confusing. One minute the thread is talking about ALMS, the next someone posts a piece of news about FIA GT1, then the discussion gets going on the 24 Hours or Daytona..its just a confused mess not a discussion.

All news should be given is own thread, or at the very least the LMS, ALMS, GT1, GT3, etc should all have their own seperate threads. Major races such as Le Mans, Spa, Nurburgring, Daytona, Petit, etc should all have their own threads too so people can discuss the particular incidents, share streams and links etc easily.
If people don't like it and only want to view F1, NASCAR or Rally news then they can simply click the relevant thread tags. Its not like this forum is overflowing with short discussions anyway.

So, no, we should stop using this thread as its a monstrosity of mutated discussions. I dare you to try and follow the discussion in this thread from page 1.
 
More details about the World Endurance Championship:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92082

There will be six races, with two in Europe (one of which will be Le Mans), two in Asia and two in America. All races will be at least six hours long, and it will use the 25-18-15-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 points system used in Formula 1 and the WRC.

As for the calendar, I think I'd like to see Le Mans and Spa as the European races, Interlagos and the Circuit of the Americas as the American rounds and probably Suzuka and Speang as the Asian events.
 
Well, the thing is that there's only going to be two European races, and one of them - Le Mans - is already spoken for. But there's a whole host of fine racing venues in Europe that would be fitting for the other calendar spot: Spa, Siverstone, Monza, the Nurburgring and even Aragon. So I figured the race should go to Spa, and have one of the American races in Austin, which at least has corners lifted from Silverstone since it's unlikely that Montreal would get an endurance race.
 
Oh thought it was Le Mans, two European, two American etc... (I only skim read you post but I saw the article you linked earlier this morning)

Now I'm sad as I think both Spa and Silverstone should be on the calender. On balance I'd prefer Silverstone as I've been the past 5 years to the 1000km race and it's 9obviously) easier to get to.
 
It's SEVEN races, 2 european + Le Mans 24 Hours-

Here the full news, as shown in ACO's official site

ACO
Today, Thursday 10th June Jean-Claude Plassart, Président of the Automobile Club de l’Ouest and Jean Todt, Président of the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile presented the 2012 World Endurance Chaamionship in greater detail.

This presentation was made during the ACO Press Conference on today 9th June, two days before the start of the 79e Le Mans 24 Hours. Both presidents took advantage of this occasion to unveil the main guide lines of the future championship.

Promoter
The l’Automobile Club de l’Ouest will be the promoter of the FIA World Endurance Championship. A three-year contract has been signed between the Automobile Club de l’Ouest and the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile. When this expires the future contract will link the two parties for ten years.

Calendar
The calendar of the current series, the Intercontinental Le Mans Cup, will form the base for the 2012 season. The Automobile Club de l’Ouest has committed to integrating the Le Mans 24 hours into this calendar. The event, however, will remain the exclusive property of the ACO and will not be included in this agreement.
The 2012 season will consist of six events plus the Le Mans 24 Hours, a total of seven races.
Two events will take place on the American continent, two in Europe (not counting the Le Mans 24 Hours) and two on the Asian continent.
Each event will last six hours minimum.
The final calendar drawn up with the validation of the FIA will be published in the autumn.

Titles
Two titles, three trophies and a World Cup will be awarded

- Manufacturers’ World Endurance Champion
- Drivers’ World Endurance Champion
- GTE World Cup (Endurance Grand Touring) Pro
- FIA LM P2 Trophy
- FIA GTE Am Trophy
- FIA Trophy for the best private team.

The points awarded at the end of each event will be the same as those in the other FIA World Championships.
However, please note that double points will be awarded for the Le Mans 24 Hours.
For private teams it will not be more costly to compete in the FIA World Endurance Championship than the present ILMC and their efforts will be rewarded by a Trophy.

CATEGORIES
The World Endurance Championship will be open to for categories identical to those eligible for the Le Mans 24 Hours and the ILMC :

- Le Mans Prototype 1 (LM P1)
- Le Mans Prototype 2 (LM P2)
- Le Mans Grand Touring Endurance Pro (LM GTE Pro)
- Le Mans Grand Touring Endurance Am (LM GTE Am)

TECHNCAL AND SPORTING REGULATIONS
The Automobile Club de l’Ouest’s 2011-2013 technical and sporting regulations will govern the Endurance World Championship under the responsibility of Vincent Beaumesnil, the ACO sports manager.

ORGANISATION
The organization of the Endurance World Championship will be based on the current Intercontinental Le Mans Cup group, a branch of the ACO, headed by Frédéric Henry-Biabaud, the ILMC general manager.

The Automobile Club de l’Ouest will be responsible for the sporting, technical, marketing and communications operations.

Three other subjects were tackled during this press conference:
Olivier Quesnel from Peugeot Sport presented the ACO with a Peugeot 908 HDi FAP, which will enrich the Automobile Club de l’Ouest’s collection and will be on display in the 24-Hours museum. Download the photo of this presentation

- The Spirit of Le Mans Trophy was awarded to Professor Ayashi of Tokai University in Japan. It is awarded to a person who, through his action, contributes to spreading the renown of the Le Mans 24 Hours, - Download the biography of Professeur Ayashi -

- The presentation of three projects for the 2012 Le Mans 24 Hours in the context of the 56th Pit.
The Deltawing Project 56 whose revolutionary aerodynamics are aimed at obtaining a big reduction in fuel consumption– Download the press release presenting this car plus a picture

- GreenGT LMP H2, an electric car powered by hydrogen : Download the press release presenting this car -

- Courage Ø.12, a 100% electric car: Download the press release presenting this car plus a picture -
It was an information-packed press conference that proves more than ever the dynamism of endurance To download the press release presenting this car plus a video click here with just two days to go to the start of the 79th Le Mans 24 Hours on 11th June at 15h00. The start will be given by Jean Todt, the FIA President.
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I'm happy, the FIA has no say in sporting and technical regulations! :cheers:
 
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SuperShouden
Only reason why they didn't last year is 'cause they drove all their cars into the ground trying to catch Audi....but, both Audi and Peugeot have new cars this year.

I'll miss Spyker this year, but they'll be back next year with a new car. But...Toyota, Nissan, Mazda, Peugeot....heck all we need is a Mercedes LMP car and we've got the 1998 LeMans all over again. The 98 LeMans without the CLR.
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Duffers917K
1998 Le Mans (notice how Le Mans is two words?) didn't have any CLR's.
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Le Mans 1998 had CLK-GTR's. But i wish Toyota came back with a new Gt-one. But Le Mans isn't the same without Porsche,Jaguar,etc. But in my heart is Audi & no Peugeot. But they don't have Jaques Vilenueve (however you spell that)
 
Quali 2 is 30 minutes from now I think. And that is 7 PM local time.

Quali 3 is between 10 PM and Midnight local time.
 
What happened to people actually using the race thread?
 
Looking at the new WEC, I wouldn't be surprised - indeed, I kind of hope that they will - if they went to South Korea. I think the circuit would be a good one for an endurance race, because the first sector tests the engines, the second sector tests the driver, and the final sector tests the setup. And the circuit needs another series.
 
If there is a standard minimum distance for the FIA/ACO WEC will it be the same that's currently used in the Le Mans Series - 6 hours or 1000km? ANd if Sebring and/or Petit Le Mans are on the schedule for 2012, I imagine they'll retain their distances. (12 hours and 10 hours/1000 miles)
 
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Looking at the new WEC, I wouldn't be surprised - indeed, I kind of hope that they will - if they went to South Korea. I think the circuit would be a good one for an endurance race, because the first sector tests the engines, the second sector tests the driver, and the final sector tests the setup. And the circuit needs another series.
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The Yeongam circuit needs more racing on it, it showed potential when F1 went there last year. I wouldn't be surprised if there was more than 1 Asian WEC race next year (China being one), with Toyota and Nissan slowly getting back into Le Mans Racing. Fuji, Zhuhai and Yenognam, three Asian fly-aways; seems reasonable?
 
Yeah I suppose Conrod and Mountain straights might be a bit sketchy in a prototype but it would be an epic race. We did have a 24 hour race here for a few years a while back with I think GT2 spec cars racing.
 
How come the Nurb 24 doesn't get as much glamour internationally compared to Le Mans?

I mean how often do you hear about companies taking their cars to La Sarthe to test them instead of at the Ring?
 
sumbrownkid
How come the Nurb 24 doesn't get as much glamour internationally compared to Le Mans?

I mean how often do you hear about companies taking their cars to La Sarthe to test them instead of at the Ring?
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Nurburgring24 is only touring/GT cars and is missing the massive history that Le Mans has. People know Nurburgring's GP track and the green hell due to it's awesomeness but many actually forget that there is a 24hr event there.
 

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