The most difficult car to drive well in GT4?

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While the Speed-12 isn't an easy car to drive well, it makes for a good challenging drive which in my book makes it fun. It is no way the most difficult to drive fast.
 
It's one of the hardest road cars to master, it's not hard to drive fast because it's very fast by it's very nature, you can drive half throttle and still drive fast in the Speed 12. But it's hard to master, when you've masterd it you'll be amazed at the times it can achieve stock.
 
Those of which that mentioned the SRT-4.... You guys must be using too much power or something of the sort, because mine did perfectly fine in the Hot Rod races in the American Events with 259 horsepower...

Oh well, anyway, I am very suprised none of you said the Superbird, especially after the mission race. The Doorstop (2J race car) is one that definetely requires some skills...
 
I actually got on well with the Superbird, passed the mission second time, it's just a case of knowing when to brake. It's not that hard to master imo.
 
jamezracer
... surprizingly, a stock saleen s7. after a bit of tuning, the s7 is very good, but stock, no brakes +no weight on front tires = hello wall, at least for me.
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Hmmmm, I started driving the S7 this morning and I found it surprisingly excellent. I thought it was going to be crap - a highspeed MR is never a good combo, and after that useless heap called a Cizeta, I didn't have high hopes for the S7. I found it easy to drive, very forgiving, and one of the easiest MR's to drift/control. Whether in a drift, or in a 4 wheel slide, it's easy to bring back under control and keep hammering hard. I managed to drift both hairpins at Infineon very nicely if I do say so myself - I love that feeling!!... :sly:

torque998
The Gillet Vertigo has to be one of the toughest cars to drive at all, let alone well. With hardly any downforce at all, you're certainly going to be hitting a wall more than once in a single race.
Even with maxxed downforce, it still handles like absolute crap.
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Interesting. I thought I might give this car a crack in the world series, so have been bumming around doing other races trying to generate the million I need to buy it. As we all know with GT4 though, once a car is bought, it's bought. There's no reseting without saving if it's crap, and I don't want to waste a million on a car that's useless. I remember it was very good in GT3, and I got along fine with it, so I need to figure out some way of trialling it in GT4. Maybe for GT5 a 'test-drive' option would be good. Take the car out on a specified track before you buy...

The Cizeta is still the crapest car I've found so far... :)
 
The Caterham Fireblade is very difficult to drive on the 'Ring, it bounces like crazy! The most difficult to drive is the Auto Union I think, but the 200 degress mode of the DFP somewhat solves that problem. It's a very fun drifting machine without TCS, for historic accuracy I use S1 tire grip and the hand shift knob on the wheel. It's a nice challenge!

Another spinmobile is the road Lancia Stratos without TCS, tremendous fun around Assisi Reverse!
 
Jetboys427
Those of which that mentioned the SRT-4.... You guys must be using too much power or something of the sort, because mine did perfectly fine in the Hot Rod races in the American Events with 259 horsepower...

Oh well, anyway, I am very suprised none of you said the Superbird, especially after the mission race. The Doorstop (2J race car) is one that definetely requires some skills...
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No, I believe my SRT4 had around 300HP. I just find all FF cars a pain to drive.

Now that you mention it, the '70 Chevelle (and any muscle car for that matter) is tricky to drive. Haven't tried the 2J.
 
Emohawk
I think the Escudo is harder to drive then the Speed 12, but neither of them are really difficult to handle. They just require Zen master levels of throttle controll. Turn TCS on and they get a whole lot easier. To compare, I've never tried the Alpine with ASM on, but it's just so slidey it seems that ASM would slow you to a snail's pace around corners.
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I haven't had a chance to drive the Escudo in GT4, but in past versions it slaughtered everything. Even the F1 car. The Escudo must be different in GT4? I actually found that to be the best car to drive with racing slicks. It's also my 8-year old daughter's favorite car to drive due to how it responds in GT3. I guess I can't disagree with you in GT4 as I have zero experience with the Escudo in this version.

But, the most difficult car I've found to "get used to" is the Yellowbird. I have spent a lot of time tuning this car; the best time I've turned on MidField is 1'15.xxx. That seems pretty good compared to another list I've found on here, but turning that time was not easy to do in that car.
 
ferrari_chris
Interesting. I thought I might give this car a crack in the world series, so have been bumming around doing other races trying to generate the million I need to buy it.
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Fortunately, you can earn 1 million in about 15 minutes.

Which is good, because after your realize what a P.O.S. the Vertigo is... you'll be happier to know you only wasted 15 minutes of your time earning the money for it.

GTWC + Vertigo == Masochistic tendencies :sly:


Speaking of cars that can't handle the Nurb... I actually like the 2J quite a bit but I can NOT keep it on the Nurb. If anyone can make a clean (yet fast) lap in the 2J on the Nurb I would be *extremely* impressed. That would be a challenge.
 
I didn't mind the Cizeta that much.

I love the yellowbird, but I am also used to the handling characteristics of RR cars. It goes like a bat out of hell when accelerating even with the mere 600ish HP I had it tuned to. slaughtered everything in Swarswald Liga 2.

The escudo is down 800HP vs GT3. Handling has actually improved.

The CLK-GTR is a PITA to drive fast, understeers like hell with anything less than RS on the front. With the typical RM/RH setup of most LMP and group C cars its undrivable. Great drag car though. Have posted a mid 8 second 1/4 mile time with it. In a straight line the CLK will outrun a group C car (group C cars can't get NOS).

The XJR-9 is probably the worst of the group Cs. put one tire off track with that car and it WILL snap spin. Learned that one going 240mph at Sarthe on the 2nd long straight. The minolta and R92 are much more forgiving.

Had no problems with the e-type. Drove quite nice for a car its age.

I actually found the SRT-4 to be one of the easier FF cars to drive fast. Less traction issues than the civics and tegs as it has decent sized front tires.

Worst brakes award goes to the Falken RX-7 D1GP car, stopping was a suggestion on that car and had no upgrade available.

Actually found the EVOs and WRXs drive quite well. You just have to be rather aggressive with an AWD car. Sideways is an effective way to corner an EVO.

The Lancia S4 has got to be the worst of the rally cars on dirt (its not bad on tarmac). the S4 tends to just skitter across the surface of the dirt even with soft suspension settings. The RS200 grips on dirt much better though still pales compared to a modern rally car.

Worst car so far has been the CLK-GTR (very little downforce and loads of power are not a good combo) Its a bear even with the stock engine. I can turn faster laps with the motul Z car and its down 150hp vs the CLK
 
SUROKIA
the ford falcons SUCK!, which is a pity since i own an AU XR8 :\
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I actually thought that they were alright to drive, and this comes from a die hard HSV fan!! :odd::nervous: They're no supercar obviously, but they're far from what I'd call crap. I haven't driven the Falcon racecar yet, but I plan to in the near future. :)
jmillheiser
Worst brakes award goes to the Falken RX-7 D1GP car, stopping was a suggestion on that car and had no upgrade available.
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This car wasn't designed to stop, it was designed to go sideways - you approach the corner and flick, drift it through, and away you go. It's great!!
Seeing as how you:
jmillheiser
didn't mind the Cizeta that much
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we obviously have very different driving styles. Good to see GT4 can cater for all. :)
 
For me, the hardest cars to learn to control were the Ford GT and the Saleen S7.
I guess "spastic" would be a good way to describe the GT's handling. It just jumped into the corners and was a beast to tame. No problems with acceleration or speed, but the handling and braking were tough to master. Well worth it in the end though.

For the Saleen, I guess, as most seem to suggest, the brakes were the biggest issue. Handling was a little less superb than I was expecting, but after tuning and experimenting, it was just as rewarding as the Ford GT.
 
well as a Ford fan, (not by choice)(id rather an AE86)i like the SS.
its my leet drifter...


I actually thought that they were alright to drive, and this comes from a die hard HSV fan!! They're no supercar obviously, but they're far from what I'd call crap. I haven't driven the Falcon racecar yet, but I plan to in the near future.
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The cizeta is not my favorite but I found it at least tolerable for the few races I ran it in.

Won the supercar challenge with a WRX spec C. pretty decent A spec points and not too much trouble.

Did the Tsukuba Wet rally on hard with the WRX touring car. With the Minolta on my butt at the end of all the straights. Could do the corners much faster than he could and just hold him off at the ends of the straights. AWD + R5 tires is a godsend on tsukuba wet.
 
The RX-8 Concept LM car is a joy to drive. Some of the best braking characteristics I've had so far, with 2 more turbo upgrades one can choose from. It definitely rates well with the 350Z LM race car in my garage.

I'm still not liking the Yellowbird, but it's one I must use for the Super car series (?). It loses control on high speed straights way too easily. Any suggestions?
 

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jmillheiser
In a straight line the CLK will outrun a group C car (group C cars can't get NOS).
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I have NOS on my Minolta Toyota. Haven't tried the other Group C runners.

I'd like to add the Option Stream thing. I was running around in the Falken RX7 at the time I won the Option Stream, and thought the 700odd BHP sounded fantastic, but I just couldn't get along with it. It didn't have the grip I was hoping for, or the traction. I suppose in hindsight it goes about as well as it could be expected, but I tossed it at the scenery for 15 minutes and decided I'd rather take the money and sold it...
 
the option stream was built for a land speed record, so of course it desnt turn good. :dunce: and whoever said MR and highspeed is a bad combo, is an idiot since all of the group c cars are MR, and so is the f1. but on subject the yellowbird has to be worst pile of steaming poo i've ever driven.
 
Emohawk
Handling wise, Alpine A310. Oversteeriest car ever.
The Alpine series is probably winnable in this car with just a little extra power, but I had to put 50 kilos in the nose before I could handle it.
I think the Escudo is harder to drive then the Speed 12, but neither of them are really difficult to handle. They just require Zen master levels of throttle controll. Turn TCS on and they get a whole lot easier. To compare, I've never tried the Alpine with ASM on, but it's just so slidey it seems that ASM would slow you to a snail's pace around corners.
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I think that the A310 is a loverly car to drive its really progressive with its sliding and easy to catch and get back on line, the Alpine cup was one of my favorites in the game.

I think that the Caterham when fully tunes on the nurburgring is pretty stupid, if you hit a bump the car jumps a mile in the air (exaggeration but im sure you get the point), touch a curb when trying to get the best racing line and wooooooo your back in the air, it could be a great car but as soon as u get some pace up then its an animal as it bottoms out, flys, is skittish and sometimes has a great tendancy to understeer. I wouldnt say i am the best gt4 driver but i know i am not a bad one so i dont think its the way i drive it. :)
 
the escudo.

the throttle control is really hard because of how much the turbo lags.

it lags all the way up to 6k RPM then the turbo suddenly kicks in and you're spinning all over the place.
 
Another one I forgt and will probably get a little flammed for.......

Any 3000GT stock. This car is heavy and drives like a FWD car. BIG 👎 Even with a few modifications and a VCD it still tends to have too much understeer under acceleration.
 
MOTRSPRT
2nd'd, 2nd'd, and 2nd'd.
It just takes too much time to get used to the driving characteristics of this car.
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Yes it takes too much time to learn how to drive this car with grip. I can drift with this car very well. But drive with grip is almost impossible. Or then I am a bad driver.
 
Speed 12, Escudo, S4 ( personal hatred ), tank car ( obvious ), Panoz ( just hate the car ), fully powered cobra 427 !
 
MOTRSPRT
I haven't had a chance to drive the Escudo in GT4, but in past versions it slaughtered everything. Even the F1 car. The Escudo must be different in GT4? I actually found that to be the best car to drive with racing slicks. It's also my 8-year old daughter's favorite car to drive due to how it responds in GT3. I guess I can't disagree with you in GT4 as I have zero experience with the Escudo in this version.
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It's very different in GT4. It has lost 800 hp, which is silly. The point of it's inclusion is to be the most ludicrous car in the game. The power deficit doesn't mean it will ever get traction though. And you either have traction or you don't, because the power curve looks like this:
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That's what I mean by 'zen master throttle control'. To not go painfully slowly and not smoke your tires to death, you have to somehow keep the revs in the middle of that vertical line. It does handle though, that's why I group it with the Speed 12. It's not the car that's hard to drive, it's the engine.

Benjii: I think the A310 is fun to drive too, it's just really hard given my driving style (lots of trail breaking). It took me 15 laps of Tsukuba before I could do it without spinning.
 
50/50
I'm sure that everyone is thinking this but not saying it, but the only car that i find extremely hard to drive yet when tamed nearly creams my pants is the yellowbird.
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I second that, man... I'm strugling with one Yellow Bird... it looks like a brick with wheels.
 
And for those who managed to drive the Yellow Bird well, can you PM me with your settings? I can beat every supercar in pro hall in a straight line... but never mind about it when you get a street corner.
 

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