The OCD....

[Jason_B]

Since nobody's noticed, nothing is going to happen with the OCD. If PD is shut down which I would be at this point, there will be no updates. Part of Japan is on the brink of going back beyond the stone age for the next 600 years. What a couple of gamers want is nothing in the retrospect of what has happened in Northern Japan and now threatening the mid section.

 

[deftonesmx17]

Out of context, or you just misunderstood.
Except a 210hp v6 won't be a 250hp v6 after an engine rebuild. If you can't bring yourself to rebuild the engine, spend less money on upgrades and get similar power numbers.
I don't see the problem here.

Are you sure about that? As brambos pointed out, try it before opening your mouth.

Clearly I did not misunderstand anything and was completely in context. Upgrades will change the power curve, it is not the same effect. Now that is out of context.

I guess I shouldn't bother doing regular oil changes or tune-up to my real car because keeping the performance as close to stock as possible is irrelevant.

 

[Limelight788]

Since nobody's noticed, nothing is going to happen with the OCD. If PD is shut down which I would be at this point, there will be no updates. Part of Japan is on the brink of going back beyond the stone age for the next 600 years. What a couple of gamers want is nothing in the retrospect of what has happened in Northern Japan and now threatening the mid section.

Why are you assuming that we will never get updates to the OCD again and that Polyphony Digital studio will likely shut down? The disaster in Japan is not going to single-handedly shut down the company; it may take awhile for them to go back in full power, but they have been unharmed so far, so I don't see them shutting down. Your post can be compared to "They may not be able to support the game anymore, so you can't ask them to do this and that anymore.".

 

[eSZee]

Yes, it will actually have such a significant effect on high-mileage cars. Maybe you should -you know- *try* it before claiming all sorts of things and pretending you are "in the know"...

What did you say I should do?

Look what a 250cr OIL CHANGE does, seeing as it's part of the rebuild.

car #1: 55000km
185hp at purchase
205hp after engine rebuild
194hp after oil change


car #2: 76000km
347hp at purchase
383hp after engine rebuild
364hp after oil change


car #3: 74000km
193hp at purchase
214hp after engine rebuild
204hp after oil change


car #4: 68000km
206hp at purchase
227hp after engine rebuild
216hp after oil change


car #5: 56000km
510hp at purchase
564hpafter engine rebuild
536hp after oil change

I can't see how a 210hp car gained 40hp from a rebuild.
You can get the difference between oil change and rebuild from a mod or two for much less. My comment about those maxing out HP still stands.

Are you sure about that? As brambos pointed out, try it before opening your mouth.

Clearly I did not misunderstand anything and was completely in context. Upgrades will change the power curve, it is not the same effect. Now that is out of context.

I guess I shouldn't bother doing regular oil changes or tune-up to my real car because keeping the performance as close to stock as possible is irrelevant.

Clearly misunderstood. I said that unless you are maxing out you car, you don't need the rebuild as that power can be made up by a mod or two.
Anything else?

 

[deftonesmx17]

What did you say I should do?

Look what a 250cr OIL CHANGE does, seeing as it's part of the rebuild.

car #1: 55000km
185hp at purchase
205hp after engine rebuild
194hp after oil change


car #2: 76000km
347hp at purchase
383hp after engine rebuild
364hp after oil change


car #3: 74000km
193hp at purchase
214hp after engine rebuild
204hp after oil change


car #4: 68000km
206hp at purchase
227hp after engine rebuild
216hp after oil change


car #5: 56000km
510hp at purchase
564hpafter engine rebuild
536hp after oil change

I can't see how a 210hp car gained 40hp from a rebuild.
You can get the difference between oil change and rebuild from a mod or two for much less. My comment about those maxing out HP still stands.

On what planet would oil be changed after a complete engine rebuild? It would simply be added. Thanks for pointing out yet another glaring issue with GT5.

Clearly misunderstood. I said that unless you are maxing out you car, you don't need the rebuild as that power can be made up by a mod or two.
Anything else?

Did you miss where I said that will alter the power curve? Some of use would like it to perform as it would stock.

 

[eSZee]

On what planet would oil be changed after a complete engine rebuild? It would simply be added. Thanks for pointing out yet another glaring issue with GT5.

WHat?

 

[deftonesmx17]

If an engine was to be completely rebuilt, the oil would be drained beforehand. After the engine is rebuilt, oil would be put in not changed.

You also wouldn't know the HP between that because nobody would be stupid enough to dyno a car with no oil.

 

[Silver-Sylph]

I've never cared for 0 miles nor will I in the future.

 

[eSZee]

If an engine was to be completely rebuilt, the oil would be drained beforehand. After the engine is rebuilt, oil would be put in not changed.

Mkay.
Yes, so how did PD screw this up, exactly?

 

[deftonesmx17]

Mkay.
Yes, so how did PD screw this up, exactly?

Because nobody in their right mind would put the old oil back in and then do an oil change. Even if they did, I'll ask this; on what 🤬 planet would old dirty oil give more HP then new clean oil?

Also, I'm confused on how you did an oil change after an engine rebuild. Are we playing the same game because after a rebuild it keeps telling me the oil does not need changed. The oil change is automatically part of the engine rebuild.

S2000 (US) '04 - 18481.8 miles (checked oil and was dirty, but did not change it beforehand)
Before rebuild - 229hp
After rebuild - 253hp

Now tells me oil does not need changed.

efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '95 - 15095.6 miles (checked oil and was dirty, but did not change it beforehand)
Before rebuild - 238hp
After rebuild - 264hp

Now tells me oil does not need changed.


Lets do it in different order now...

S2000 (US) '99 - 36719.3 miles
Before Oil Change or rebuild - 228hp
After Oil Change only - 239hp
After oil change then rebuild - 252hp

As we can clearly see, my original estimation of 40hp was not that far off. Seeing as these cars with relatively low mileage saw an increase in the 20-30hp range.
Remember your original response?

Except a 210hp v6 won't be a 250hp v6 after an engine rebuild.

 

[eSZee]

Also, I'm confused on how you did an oil change after an engine rebuild.

I gave you numbers after rebuild and after oil change. I never said one was done after the other. I listed HP given after doing one or the other.

 

[deftonesmx17]

I gave you numbers after rebuild and after oil change. I never said one was done after the other. I listed HP given after doing one or the other.

The way in which you presented the data seemed to signify as much. I mean why you you list the rebuild hp before the just oil change hp? Excuse me for assuming that when you are trying to prove a point that you would be clear and concise which would include listing your steps taken in-order instead of out-of-order.

 

[Ace_Man]

I hate how they make you wait a week for it to update... and then it magically doesn't. Then you have to wait till the following week. Which has happened once or twice. But leaving rare cars in there for a week or so makes them seem not very rare.

 

[diegorborges]

And the whole magic of finding a gem with low mileage for your collection?

Yeah, a 0km dealer or 10km ones like in GT4 would be nice...

But I still find a lot of fun searching for low km ones in the actual UCD.

And I love super high mileage ones like the 300k+ km E-type Jags I got!

 

[cosmicskunk]

I hate how they make you wait a week for it to update... and then it magically doesn't. Then you have to wait till the following week. Which has happened once or twice. But leaving rare cars in there for a week or so makes them seem not very rare.

I thought about why the OCD hadn't been updated, perhaps they are leaving the OCD unchanged for longer because people generally have less credits and with it taking longer to earn the credits now since the update?

 

[BlackoutBilly]

Because nobody in their right mind would put the old oil back in and then do an oil change. Even if they did, I'll ask this; on what 🤬 planet would old dirty oil give more HP then new clean oil?

Also, I'm confused on how you did an oil change after an engine rebuild. Are we playing the same game because after a rebuild it keeps telling me the oil does not need changed. The oil change is automatically part of the engine rebuild.

S2000 (US) '04 - 18481.8 miles (checked oil and was dirty, but did not change it beforehand)
Before rebuild - 229hp
After rebuild - 253hp

Now tells me oil does not need changed.

efini RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '95 - 15095.6 miles (checked oil and was dirty, but did not change it beforehand)
Before rebuild - 238hp
After rebuild - 264hp

Now tells me oil does not need changed.


Lets do it in different order now...

S2000 (US) '99 - 36719.3 miles
Before Oil Change or rebuild - 228hp
After Oil Change only - 239hp
After oil change then rebuild - 252hp

As we can clearly see, my original estimation of 40hp was not that far off. Seeing as these cars with relatively low mileage saw an increase in the 20-30hp range.
Remember your original response?

👍 owned

 

[Ace_Man]

I thought about why the OCD hadn't been updated, perhaps they are leaving the OCD unchanged for longer because people generally have less credits and with it taking longer to earn the credits now since the update?

I think a week is enough. Considering anything on the UCD is gone after just 5 races.

 

[eSZee]

👍 owned

Where?
I was wrong, somewhat, as the the actual rebuild also includes an oil change which is half the rebuild power gain.
Awesome, pointless, post nevertheless. Pat yourself on the back, chap.

 

[BongoManCan]

I think a week is enough. Considering anything on the UCD is gone after just 5 races.

I thought it was 2 weeks!

 

[Vitzio]

how does 0 miles matter? It's a game. There's no difference at all, you cant even trade them since I assume you're going to be buying the most expensive ones. That would be the most pointless update ever, PD has more important things to take care of.

 

[Welsh-Fury]

You have to restore the engine and chassis in order to get the max performance from them - effectively doubling the price you pay for the cars.

That major suckage right there. 👎

[SARCASM]Yes, 10-50HP is going to kill a car's performance.[/SARCASM]

 

[deftonesmx17]

[SARCASM]Yes, 10-50HP is going to kill a car's performance.[/SARCASM]

50hp is a large amount. I guess nobody should ever buy a 150hp car when the 100hp one will perform the same

 

[Welsh-Fury]

50hp is a large amount. I guess nobody should ever buy a 150hp car when the 100hp one will perform the same

More hp the car has, the greater the loss in power from engine wear. But cars with 100hp lose at tops 4-7HP, compared to the 1,500HP X2010 that loses a max of 120otHP

 

[ChaddingtonB]

how does 0 miles matter? It's a game. There's no difference at all, you cant even trade them since I assume you're going to be buying the most expensive ones. That would be the most pointless update ever, PD has more important things to take care of.

I think his point was more that it would be nice, The Entertainer was tired before GT5 came out.

 

[deftonesmx17]

More hp the car has, the greater the loss in power from engine wear. But cars with 100hp lose at tops 4-7HP, compared to the 1,500HP X2010 that loses a max of 120otHP

I understand that, but I have no idea how you can think that up to a 50hp loss won't kill a cars performance. If I wait too long to change the oil in my real car I can easily notice the 5-10hp difference.

 

[Welsh-Fury]

I understand that, but I have no idea how you can think that up to a 50hp loss won't kill a cars performance. If I wait too long to change the oil in my real car I can easily notice the 5-10hp difference.

The only thing I can say is, take a new car, run a track with the normal power you have in the car, then go tune down 4-5% of the engines HP. Seriously, the difference really inst that great.

Granted you arn't drag racing or running rings around Daytona where 3mph is so badly needed.

 

[Culkin]

I just wish we could slap our cars we cant sell only delete from garage on it so someone else can buy and enjoy it and we get the money for it, be a proper OCD then!

Got an RS200 rally car people have been desperate to trade for in servers online sat in my garage that ill never use because already have 1 and cant trade due to the stupid limit....Such a waste