The Veyron's Bad Rap.

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Maybe.

But good luck driving that Golf on the street, let alone listen to music, having air conditioning, starting it consistently by yourself, etc....

Anyone who denies that the Bugatti Veyron is a fantastic marvel of engineering is being intentionally obtuse.

With that said, it sucks to drive as a race car and can't even really be classified as a sports car; I really just don't enjoy driving it. I guess maybe that's why people hate it?

Don't get me wrong, I'm just saying you could make any car that fast, but the Veyron is an extremely technologically advanced car.

Personally I feel people hate it because like many have said, it's commonly used by "Noob" players. I'll be honest, I've kicked idiots driving Veyrons who just go around ramming people. But this isn't the car, that's the driver. But if you just drive it in a free run room, why be criticised for it if you actually CAN drive it like I can.
 
Like stated before, I think the reason why the Veyron is hated so much by GT5 players are the bad drivers that use it...:sick: Now, talking about real life, I think people hate it because its just unbeatable. The only thing that can challenge a Veyron is another Veyron... and just a few others...

Personally, I love the car, is extremely fast and and I find it extremely beautiful, it has great acceleration, and while it does feel like a truck sometimes while cornering... tell me, how many "trucks" look that great and can go up to 400Kmh??? :)
 
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Like stated before, I think the reason why the Veyron is hated so much by GT5 players are the bad drivers that use it...:sick: Now, talking about real life, I think people hate it because its just unbeatable. The only thing that can challenge a Veyron is another Veyron... and just a few others...

Personally, I love the car, is extremely fast and and I find it extremely beautiful, it has great acceleration, and while it does feel like a truck sometimes while cornering... tell me, how many "trucks" look that great and can go up to 400Kmh??? :)

Speed isn't everything.
 
In the drag racing scene.. its Veyron vs. Veyron and thats it...
 
I hate how everyone thinks thats the only car Bugatti makes. They are historic and have achived some huge accomplishments over time.
 
I hate how everyone thinks thats the only car Bugatti makes. They are historic and have achived some huge accomplishments over time.
Look at every Bugatti made be for 1956, great lines IMHO.
Actual most cars made be for 1956 look good to me....
 
DLR
+1

We have seem to have forgotten why the Veyron was built. Not to look nice, or go around corners very well. I was made to break the speed record and did so in a superb fashion.

Yet it weights almost two tons. What a failure. Everyone can make a car go that fast, by putting a ridicules amount of power into it. Nothing special in going that fast, when you put an obscene amount of power into it. And there's nothing innovative about it's design.
 
Why does the Veyron get such a bad rap? It's understandable in drag racing because of it's insane speeds and maybe even during racing online, but I was in a room just cruising around in a stock Veyron, just testing it out since I fully tuned my other one, and the host began yelling at me and called me the "Dumb *** in a Gayron" and kicked me. I mean I wasn't even doing anything. So why is the Veyron so antagonized?
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I don't understand why ether. Heck, it's just as bad in Forza as well - I was playing Forza 3's quick race hopper and chose a Veyron.

Before you know it, I'm voted out (and it was a stock one too - which reminds me that I want a stock one in GT5 aswell).

My guess is because it's a (roughly) 4500lb car? Handling sucks and is probably the cause of most accidents, which in turn pisses people off, and gives the Veyron it's bad rep.

I love taking my green chrome Veyron around Top Gear, always a blast to get that thing around the track (making a 1:05!). So much fun :D.
 
Yet it weights almost two tons. What a failure.

I know, what a failure. You not only get a 270MPH hyper car, you also get:
~ Heating
~ A/C
~ Radio
~ AWD System

And an overall easy car to drive on a day to day basis.

Everyone can make a car go that fast, by putting a ridicules amount of power into it. Nothing special in going that fast, when you put an obscene amount of power into it.

Sorry sir, but you are completely incorrect. Raw power will take you only so far. At high speeds, aerodynamics are far more important than power, regardless of what Jeremy Clarkson is telling you...
 
I have always hated the Veyron mainly because it claimed to be the fastest car road car in the world when it was not, claimed to be the most powerful road legal car but there were 1200hp skylines kicking about in the 90's. Also the body of the Veyron came from a seat concept. think am goin to try tune my concept tonight just to pass time and try and find one good thing about it lol
 
DLR
Sorry sir, but you are completely incorrect. Raw power will take you only so far. At high speeds, aerodynamics are far more important than power, regardless of what Jeremy Clarkson is telling you...

Then why put that much power into it? Ohhh, I know. To show off... No one likes a show off. And I'm not saying that aerodynamics aren't as important as power. But the Veyron is not the most aerodynamic car ever. Not by a long shot. There's only one single reason why the Veyron is a well known as it is. And that is it's power. It's just as bloated as everything else about the car.

You don't even drive the car. The computers do...
 
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@Savage: What is usually kent by "road car" is one that can be driven on the road. A 1200hp Skyline is 99% of the time illegal to drive on the road. Not sure where the design came from, but I'm thinking the Nardo was the first thought at VW about a hyper-supercar.
 
Then why put that much power into it? Ohhh, I know. To show off... No one likes a show off. And I'm not saying that aerodynamics aren't as important as power. But the Veyron is not the most aerodynamic car ever. Not by a long shot. There's only one single reason why the Veyron is a well known as it is. And that is it's power. It's just as bloated as everything else about the car.

How can you say the Veyron is not an aerodynamic car? lol LOOK AT IT. There are no sharp or abrupt corners. Advanced computer systems open and close flaps as well as control the ride height to maintain maximum stability.

You can put 10,000 hp in a car, but without the right chassis, its rubbish.

You don't even drive the car. The computers do...

Yes, the same computers that fly F-16s and F-22s. That's why it's a massive technical achievement! :)


Now don't get me wrong, I am not a Veyron lover. I would choose a McLaren F1 over it any day. But when people refuse to see what a magnificent car it is, it gets me all roweled up :lol:
 
JUN Super Lemon skyline was a daily drive car. Theres also a 3000hp road legal drag car that gets driven daily think its called Red Victor. am sure it was the seat supra gt that looks alot like it. also find it shock that from a engine that sixe they only pulled out 1000hp from it.
 
JUN Super Lemon skyline was a daily drive car. Theres also a 3000hp road legal drag car that gets driven daily think its called Red Victor. am sure it was the seat supra gt that looks alot like it. also find it shock that from a engine that sixe they only pulled out 1000hp from it.

Well yea, those are tuned cars. Veyron is the most powerful factory stock road car.
 
The illegality of a vehicle is linked to its modifications and specifications, not its outright power production. In most cases, if a car has no illegal modifications and can pass all applicable emissions and safety tests, it is deemed legal. The exception is usually when a vehicle's external dimensions or unique characteristics (such as a lack of appropriate fenders) prohibit safe motoring by its driver and others.

Oh, and:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwsDXXB4VUg (Red Victor)
 
If they seid stock most powerful a would give them that but they claimed mosy powerful and fasted road legal car thats what bugs me. For long drives veyron will be king no dout about it just claiming that there somthing there not anoyed me the cause the ultimate aero was but never got any attention and that was fasted with a v8. Think its the TKR thats now fastest car.
 
The illegality of a vehicle is linked to its modifications and specifications, not its outright power production. In most cases, if a car has no illegal modifications and can pass all applicable emissions and safety tests, it is deemed legal. The exception is usually when a vehicle's external dimensions or unique characteristics (such as a lack of appropriate fenders) prohibit safe motoring by its driver and others.

Oh, and:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwsDXXB4VUg (Red Victor)

Nice looks better than red victor 1 never new they made new one.
 
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How can you say the Veyron is not an aerodynamic car? lol LOOK AT IT. There are no sharp or abrupt corners. Advanced computer systems open and close flaps as well as control the ride height to maintain maximum stability.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not a Veyron lover. I would choose a McLaren F1 over it any day. But when people refuse to see what a magnificent car it is, it gets me all roweled up :lol:

I never said it wasn't an aerodynamic car. Just that it isn't the most aerodynamic design ever. And there's a huge difference in modern fighter jets, and a car. The jets you mentioned, litteraly needs computers, in order to keep stable in the air. Without the fly-by-wire system, they wouldn't be able to actually fly.

While I can understand using computers in a car to manage valves, spoilers and the like. I do not condone using computers to a degree, where the driver no longer has any real control. IMO. The Veyron is like the CoD franchise. It's overrated rubbish that looks terrible and contains no innovation.

The thing is. The McLaren F1 for an example, has little more than half the power of what the Veyron has. yet it's almost as fast, and will beat it around any track that has corners. On top of that. Some people speculate that the F1 might have been able to reach the same top speed as the Veyron, if it had a 7th gear. Now I don't know nearly enough about those things to give any proof of that, but I do find it pretty interesting.
 
On top of that. Some people speculate that the F1 might have been able to reach the same top speed as the Veyron, if it had a 7th gear. Now I don't know nearly enough about those things to give any proof of that, but I do find it pretty interesting.

Read this, its interesting
It explains, that if you want to go a lot faster, in this case >400 kph, believe me, in that caseyou need a lot more power, than the McLaren has. It doesnt do that with one gear extra...
 
If your just cruising, not being an bother or impeding on other players, I don't see the issue of people using the Veyron. In fact, the GTPGCA don't mind the Veyron, we have a division just for catching Veyron's.
 
The F1 would require more power to overcome the aerodynamic drag that comes with higher speed. A vehicle's drag coefficient increases as speed increases (this is why spoilers work better at speed) and even the most aerodynamic car becomes more brick-ike at the speeds that the Veyron achieves. The only way the F1 would be able to truly make use of an additional gear (or numerically lower final gear) with the same amount of horsepower as it has now is if torque were increased considerably at lower rpm so as to overcome the shorter ratio once shifted into final gear. Aerodynamic or not, the Veyron's gobs-o-torque gives it the edge over the McLaren.

@korza493: GTPGCA?
 
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The F1 would require more power to overcome the aerodynamic drag that comes with higher speed. A vehicle's drag coefficient increases as speed increases (this is why spoilers work better at speed) and even the most aerodynamic car becomes more brick-ike at the speeds that the Veyron achieves. The only way the F1 would be able to truly make use of an additional gear (or numerically lower final gear) with the same amount of horsepower as it has now is if torque were increased considerably at lower rpm so as to overcome the shorter ratio once shifted into final gear. Aerodynamic or not, the Veyron's gobs-o-torque gives it the edge over the McLaren.

@korza493: GTPGCA?

The xj220 has less than 550hp (50hp more than half the veyron's power)and yet it's still capable of 210's up to maybe 220... That speed is normally only seen in 600+hp machines. There's your proof that power doesn't really mean as much as you say... The McLaren also has a relatively small amount of power (barely more than a corvette ZR1, who's top speed is only less than 210, maybe 205)
 
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