The Virtual Track Day Series: Closed

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TVR Cerbera Speed 12 '00 - 1'41'150. I can't get any quicker because of the torque, which is nigh on impossible to restrain.

Nissan Skyline '89 - 1'44.970 to 1'44.070

TVR Griffith 500 '94 - 1'41.312

UPDATE: UPDATE AGAIN: For Skyline time

TVR Cerbera Speed 12
Millionaire's Division, Supercar class.

Drivertrain: FR
NA/Turbo: Turbo

Exhaust: None
Racing-Chip: None
NA-Tuning: None
Tyre Type: S1
Nitrous: None
Turbine Kit: None
Intercooler: None
Supercharger: None
Brakes: Normal
Brake controller: Fitted (Tsukuba Mod)
Suspension: Racing (Laguna Seca Mod)
Transmission: Standard
Clutch: standard
Flywheel: Racing
Carbon Driveshaft: None
Driving Aids: 10/10/10
Downforce: 0
Limited-slip: Full customisation {(Only 1-way being used [Acceleration]) Suzuka Mod}
AYC Controller: None
Variable Center Diff.: None
Weight Balance: 0/0

Port Polish: None
Engine Balancing: None
Displacement UP: None
Weight Reduction: None
Rollcage: Yes
Rigidity Refresher Plan: None

Oil change: yes

Power: 850bhp
Weight: 1049kg


Nissan Skyline GT-R '89
Budget Division

Drivertrain: 4WD
NA/Turbo: Turbo

Exhaust: None
Racing-Chip: None
NA-Tuning: None
Tyre Type: S1
Nitrous: None
Turbine Kit: Stage 1 (For Budget), Stage 2 (Suzuka Mod), Stage 3 (Laguna Seca Mod)
Intercooler: None
Supercharger: None
Brakes: Racing
Brake controller: None
Suspension: Sports
Transmission: Standard
Clutch: Standard
Flywheel: Racing
Carbon Driveshaft: None
Driving Aids: 10/10/5
Downforce: 0
Limited-slip: Standard
AYC Controller: None
Variable Center Diff.: Standard
Weight Balance: 0/0

Port Polish: None
Engine Balancing: None
Displacement UP: None
Weight Reduction: Stage 1 (Tsukuba Mod), Stage 2 (Infineon Mod)
Rollcage: Yes
Rigidity Refresher Plan: Yes

Oil change: yes

Power: 474bhp
Weight: 1258kg

TVR Griffith 500 '94
Modern Division

Drivertrain: FR
NA/Turbo: NA

Exhaust: Sports
Racing-Chip: None
NA-Tuning: Stage 2 (Suzuka Mod), Stage 3 (Laguna Seca Mod)
Tyre Type: S1
Nitrous: None
Turbine Kit: None
Intercooler: None
Supercharger: None
Brakes: Normal
Brake controller: None
Suspension: Sports
Transmission: Standard
Clutch: Triple Plate
Flywheel: Racing
Carbon Driveshaft: None
Driving Aids: 10/10/5
Downforce: 0
Limited-slip: Standard
AYC Controller: None
Variable Center Diff.: None
Weight Balance: 0/0

Port Polish: None
Engine Balancing: None
Displacement UP: None
Weight Reduction: Stage 1, (Tsukuba Mod), Stage 2, (Infineon Mod)
Rollcage: Yes
Rigidity Refresher Plan: Yes

Oil change: yes

Power: 492bhp
Weight: 964kg
 
Thanks for that xjr-9. Need a spec sheet for each car showing your mods. Take a look at the timepost in my sig, then you can cut and paste the car spec section. Remember you are allowed one mod per race retrospectively (please mark them as I have done) and check the first post for what is not allowed (eg stage 4 turbo etc).

Only use a "timepost" if you intend to keep a link in your sig, though, because otherwise I will never find it. Just put improved times in the thread clearly marked "update" and that will be fine. Cheers, bud :cheers:

Edit: Nearly forgot: could you state exactly which model Skyline you're using? There are so many...:dopey: Thanks.
 
Whell he is using a GTR,that car is uncompareble to the GTS25(this one is NA tuned with max power around 280hp,producing 170hp stock,While GTR produces around 280hp stock,and not only that,skyline GTR haves ATTESSA-ETS(click) system with 4 wheel drive,that skyline pulls out everything good from a skyline chassis,so you can't compare those 2 cars,believe me,if i was driving a GTR,we would be talking about some challenge(ask Ed about my times,and than you'l know).
Cheers!

And yeah,try loosing the aids after that 3 stages of turbo,i think your car will have around 2 minutes for Infineon,you can't controll it with so much power,without any setup on these tyres IMHO!
 
I have just updated the Skyline's time from a 1'44.970 to a 1'44.070. And we aren't at Suzuka a112 arbarth, and I can control my Skyline very well thank you very much (No offence - I am just saying that I CAN drive).

xjr-9
 
a112 abarth
Whell he is using a GTR,that car is uncompareble to the GTS25(this one is NA tuned with max power around 280hp,producing 170hp stock,While GTR produces around 280hp stock,and not only that,skyline GTR haves ATTESSA-ETS(click) system with 4 wheel drive,that skyline pulls out everything good from a skyline chassis,so you can't compare those 2 cars,believe me,if i was driving a GTR,we would be talking about some challenge(ask Ed about my times,and than you'l know).
Cheers!

And yeah,try loosing the aids after that 3 stages of turbo,i think your car will have around 2 minutes for suzuka,you can't controll it with so much power,without any setup on these tyres IMHO!
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Don't worry about it a112, as you say your car is totally different to the GT-R, not a fair comparison at all.

Now my car on the other hand is exactly the same, and if I recall has been the faster of the two '89 GT-R's for the last two tracks (all clean laps and no driver aids)

Lets see if I can make it three out if three. LOL

Scaff
 
Sorry about that,suzuka is on my mind lately,i mean Infineon,post edited,apologize!
 
xjr-9
I have just updated the Skyline's time from a 1'44.970 to a 1'44.070. And we aren't at Suzuka a112 arbarth, and I can control my Skyline very well thank you very much (No offence - I am just saying that I CAN drive).

xjr-9
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Whell,i don't know that one,never saw you driving,you maybe drive excellent maybe not,i really cannot tell,but if you kill the aids,i find your modification choice really uncomfortable,to much power for that car with stock suspension,no brake ballance controller,and some other stuff.On the other hand,that weight reduction was good mod,but all of this post is again just my opinion!(My intense wasn't to insult anyone)

EDIT:Sorry for double post!
 
xjr-9 I have some issues with your specs: None of your times can count just yet. Give me 5 minutes to note exactly what is wrong, and then we'll sort out a valid set of specs.

OK: Cerbera:

  • Racing suspension should be semi-racing (you go up one step at a time)
  • LSD MUST be one way (see post #15)

Skyline GT-R:

  • Racing brakes (my favourite...) ARE considered a mod (posts #54, #73, #76)

Griffith:

  • Triple plate clutch should be sports clutch (this will make a big difference to lap times)

All of these are covered previously. You STILL haven't read enough of the thread to understand what is going on here: one mod, one step at a time...

All times void.
 
OK, I didn't realise that anything was wrong. I'll correct them when I can. I wasn't sure about the one-step mod thing. Thanks for letting me know.

I'll change the suspension on the Cerbera to Semi-racing and switch the LSD off.
I'll scrap the racing brakes on the Skyline.
I'll change the clutch on the Griffith to Sports.

BTW, how much difference will be made to the Griffith and Skyline's times?

xjr-9
 
You can still have a one-way diff - you listed that as a mod, and they still do the job, although with all the electronic gubbins interfering, you wouldn't know it was there...

Also, I want a photo of your tuning page, please. With so much to change everyone will want to be re-assured you've got it right.

I'm not docking time, the times are void. But I guess the brakes won't make much difference (but I want them changed anyway) and the clutch could make up to a second a lap difference.

Edit: Just discovered that the only LSD available is the fully customiseable one: apologies, you can still use that, but please put a note in the spec saying "lowest available". Thanks.

Edit 2: I now notice that the clutch is not listed as a mod at all, so it has to be standard clutch. Should have spotted that first time; sorry! I think you assumed that because it was a full race flywheel, clutch was full race too...

By the way, xjr, I really wouldn't bother with the ASM system at all: it works by applying the brakes when you start to skid, so by definition, it will slow you down. TCS, I can understand, but that ASM system just gets in the way of the car doing what you want it to do...
 
Whoa! A lot of things have been happening here while I was snoring my head off!

No offence xjr-9, but perhaps it would be easier for you to wait a couple of weeks, and join the next series (there IS going to be a next series isn't there ed?). All I am saying is that it can get quite confusing to come in this far into the piece with the technicality levels of these rules.

By all means continue with this series if you wish, but PLEASE read the rules carefully, and read through the earlier posts, so that you have a firm understanding of what is going on here.

The REAL gOoSe
 
Morning! Looks like I'll have to get the Ruf out when I get back from work...;)

Leaderboard updated.

Edit: Yes there will be another series, Goose. I'm shortly going to start a discussion thread to figure out some improvements: I'm not entirely happy with the whole class structure thing, and would like to work out something a bit simpler.
 
I can't take a picture of the tuning page, but I can make the changes. I don't know how to work a digital camera, but you can trust me. I will do as you say FastEddie12, and remove the clutch, sort out the suspension issue by downgrading it, and will have a go with the ASM turned off, to see what it's like.

xjr-9
 
xjr-9
I don't know how to work a digital camera
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You don't know WHAT? Run that by me again, I'm SURE I mis-read you!
 
I don't know how to work a digital camera in connecting it to a computer, and anyway, I can't find my family's camera. I will double check and triple check my settings, though, just so that you feel secure in the knowledge that I haven't made anymore mistakes.

xjr-9
 
xjr-9
I don't know how to work a digital camera in connecting it to a computer
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thats the easy bit! plug one end of the cable into the cam, the other end into the computer, let windows do the rest!
 
It's worth trying it out, xjr, after all, if you saw a Ferrari Enzo tomorrow, wouldn't you want to post a pic of it? Or, more to the point, if you want to post any times, wouldn't you want to post a pic? I'm sure you have a switched-on friend who can deal with it... (I have my big sister :D).

Now, do the mods, do your laps, hold on to your times, get a friend to take and download the vital pics before, say, Friday (to allow for problems, seeing as it's the net and everything), and THEN give us the times.

I'm not asking for a video, just 3 pictures.

Hey, Goose, when are you gonna post some times? Holding back the good stuff till Saturday? We can't have a battle if you leave it till the last minute...:D
 
Hi all,

Got the chance to run a few more laps in each car, found I had to really soften them up to get them working well, the 5 feels a bit too slidey at high speed around here which isnt good, lots of speed is sapped in the corner just before the last hairpin, its nice and smooth for the most part. The Alfa now boasting 175bhp has finally proven rear wheel drives worth over the Clio - but not by much, its the exits of all corners that give the Alfa .3 over the french super hatch....

Have to say just how noticeable the need to tune is in this series, I could not drive Infineon on Laguna's settings for example, mind you the car is constantly changing from circuit to circuit, keeps it interesting though.👍

Time post updated and some pictures from the laps...

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cheers all

David
 
not long up so some quick times
mod for M5 here is semi racing suspension,best so far is 1:38.410 still stock suspension though still to tune it

mod for S4 here is semi racing suspension, best so far is 1:50.48,needs alot of work done to it

mod for quattro is stage 3 turbo, best so far is 1:52.238

ill do proper spec lists n that when i get some proper rest tomorrow lol
 
Turbo is very nice while lowered Dave,the settings thing is all truth,better yet,try driving infineon with tsukuba wet setup.I was forced to add some weight to the rear on that track(nsx).And thing is,imho the car must be quite soft for infineon!
 
Some useful tips there, guys!

Dave, I love that pic of the 5 Turbo! Could I possibly steal it, and use it in the first post? Please, pretty please with sugar on top? I think it sums up the whole series!

OK, no-one else is allowed to go faster than the Ruf until Sunday! It's the law! *Ed reaches for his helmet*
 
a112 abarth
Turbo is very nice while lowered Dave,the settings thing is all truth,better yet,try driving infineon with tsukuba wet setup.I was forced to add some weight to the rear on that track(nsx).And thing is,imho the car must be quite soft for infineon!
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Actually raised it a bit for this track, the picture shows the weight transfer quite well in the cornering!

My Tsukuba wet settings were not too far out as I had to soften my cars up there also but they still needed modifying here.

@Eddie, of course you can, if you send me your email in a pm i will send you the original file so you can crop it too taste, that one has been through resizing and imageshack so may not respond to well to another hosting session where some quality seems to get lost!

regards

David
 
FastEddie12
Hey, Goose, when are you gonna post some times? Holding back the good stuff till Saturday? We can't have a battle if you leave it till the last minute...:D
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I will post times when I actually get some! I have been uber busy, we had people over sunday and monday, and i was out getting new tyres for my burnout rims today, and I will be... shock horror... buying a new copy of...well...a certain piece of software that I should really have a genuine copy of anyway.

I will try to get some times in by Thursday, I promise

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I will be taking video of my burnout, I am planning to destroy a brand new set of light truck tyres (with rubber dags still on) in a single burnout.
 
FastEddie12
It's worth trying it out, xjr, after all, if you saw a Ferrari Enzo tomorrow, wouldn't you want to post a pic of it?
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One, I don't like the Ferrari Enzo, and two, I think that I will probably wait until the Nurburgring is open on Sunday, as I do have my GCSE's at the moment. They finish next Wednesday, so I can have an all-out assault on the 'Ring.

xjr-9
 
xjr-9
One, I don't like the Ferrari Enzo,
xjr-9
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:confused: :odd: Trust me from a metre away hearing it fire up you might just change your mind...:) (Thanks to the Prodrive guys at LeMans 2003)

David
 
FastEddie12
Some useful tips there, guys!

Dave, I love that pic of the 5 Turbo! Could I possibly steal it, and use it in the first post? Please, pretty please with sugar on top? I think it sums up the whole series!

OK, no-one else is allowed to go faster than the Ruf until Sunday! It's the law! *Ed reaches for his helmet*
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I was also going to comment on that picture. Nice.

Well, its a good thing I got my GT time in already, although my Commodore time is very close to your Ruf. :)

Anyway, Pinnacle told me it would take 1 to 2 business days for an answer on my serial number and that was the Friday before last. I finally got it today. :ouch: I can finally get some vids up. Give me a couple days as I've never used this thing before.
 
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