The Xbox One Thread - One X & One SXBOne 

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Samus
That depends entirely on what posts per page setting you have. I have it on 100 per page and there are only 20 pages.
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You've made my point even clearer đź‘Ť H should've posted a links to the post, since he knew exactly where it was ;)
 
Big edits made to my previous post ITT, please re-read.
 
kennylmao
Truly unbelievable for a company like Microsoft to resort to such dirty tactics.

I just... can't/don't want to believe it. :dunce:
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Then don't believe it. There is literally zero evidence that this is actually happening. Someone on a forum said they heard it might be. Apparently that's news now.

Lets try it here! MS confirms via classified internal memo, that I heard about from a friend who's dad has a friend who's sister's husband's cousin works at MS, that the X1 will have the ability to force users to play it instead if doing things they actually want to! OMG can you believe it?!?!?


Absolute hogwash; since when is an unverified claim made on the internet enough to run a news story?
 
Rainbow Dash
MS is paying 3rd Party publishers to not show their PS4 games at E3.

I'm sorry but that's a low dirty tactic & makes them scum. đź‘Ž
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The message even mentions "rumor", but it will quickly spread like wildfire through the forums as "fact". The question is, who was the "source" the rumor. Of course I have no idea but I always try to look at things from multiple angles.

If true: Dirty tactics. Hard to believe as MS couldn't expect the pay-off practice to be kept under wraps and if became public would understand the damaging affects.

If rumor: The "source" is trying to inflict damage or affect sentiment ("a thought influenced by emotion").

Just for giggles, let's say Sony or someone close to them is the source (I want to make that CLEAR I am not saying it is otherwise I am just as guilty of passing a rumor!). IF Sony didn't have a good line-up of software for E3 the community would just blame a weak showing on MS tactics. In addition, MS becomes more of a big/evil empire, Sony the righteous/good little guy.

These things just make me "think" (still affected by those psychology classes)...
 
Now I ain't trolling but I wouldn't put it pass MS to do something like that. They clearly throw out millions to get their brand stamped on most game ads & to get timed exclusives so bribing a few game publishers to not show PS4 games at E3 is clearly & entirely not out of the question here.
 
Could be true if MS knows that PS4 won't implement DRM.

And then there is also EA/Activision/MS partnership, so I wouldn't be surprised, is marketing after all.
 
Rainbow Dash
Now I ain't trolling but I wouldn't put it pass MS to do something like that. They clearly throw out millions to get their brand stamped on most game ads & to get timed exclusives so bribing a few game publishers to not show PS4 games at E3 is clearly & entirely not out of the question here.
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It's a rumour though. So it means jack.
 
Rainbow Dash
Now I ain't trolling but I wouldn't put it pass MS to do something like that...
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Just for discussion, so you don't think Sony would do the same? If not, why?

See, it's very common to hold perceptions and bias (not saying you, just discussing) based on a many factors, it's human nature. I have to admit, there is something with Apple that rubs me the wrong way, I won't buy anything Apple. Why, to tell you the truth I am not really sure. But I am not going to rant on them, they do make good products, but not for me.

MS was not always perceived as evil, but I am going back to the DOS and Windows 1 days but as their influence and dominance grew they as a company have turned a lot of people off. I am seeing the same with Google. I remember their start and all was good, now that they are growing into this world-wide mega corporation the opinions and perceptions are changing.

I am not surprised, GTPlanet is made up of primarily PS gamers hence the distaste for MS. In a perfect world facts would rule over rumor and perception. With this said, maybe MS is a big evil monster, what to I know, but I personally don't see a difference between MS and Sony. When and if the time comes I will buy whichever console suites my taste, not by the name of the company.

Just saying...
 
FuzzyFassbender
Just for discussion, so you don't think Sony would do the same? If not, why?
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If you're talking perceptions for why it is more believable, it is considerably less common practice for Sony to do the somewhat similar "present multiplatform titles as if they are only coming out on their system" thing than it is for Microsoft.
 
FuzzyFassbender
MS was not always perceived as evil, but I am going back to the DOS and Windows 1 days but as their influence and dominance grew they as a company have turned a lot of people off. I am seeing the same with Google. I remember their start and all was good, now that they are growing into this world-wide mega corporation the opinions and perceptions are changing.

I am not surprised, GTPlanet is made up of primarily PS gamers hence the distaste for MS. In a perfect world facts would rule over rumor and perception. With this said, maybe MS is a big evil monster, what to I know, but I personally don't see a difference between MS and Sony. When and if the time comes I will buy whichever console suites my taste, not by the name of the company.
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For the sake of discussion let's say you are a MS fanboy, wouldn't it be blind disbelief that MS corporate decisions over people's acquisitions have become a good thing.

Having preferences is not a bad thing, if people want to buy an Xbox One and withstand all the new expenses and restrictions is their problem, however convincing people that is not as atrocious as it actually is fanboysm, is not personal preference ... is campaigning, like an xbox fan would do.

Rumours can spread, but facts will stand, even if MS isn't creating that bad PR they are still on a PR nightmare, nothing will take them out that, because the truth that is confirmed by them has indeed given them that position, ergo all these rumours will still be more valid that actual facts that have been shown as rumours in the past and now they turned out to be facts.

Is not a psychological/psychosocial thing, is just the outcome of MS giving themselves bad PR through the last month or so.
 
chromatic9
In what sense is Steam's check in barely tolerable?
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In the sense that I live aboard a ship and don't have a personal Internet connection, thus forcing me to seek out public hotspots in order to connect.

In the sense that said ship could be underway for several months at a time, making connecting an impossibility.
 
FuzzyFassbender
Just for discussion, so you don't think Sony would do the same? If not, why?
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While I wouldn't rule out the possibilities, I would find it much more unlikely. We know Microsoft has resorted to very similar tactics in the past, and without mistakingly seeming racist or playing on racial stereotypes, I think the Japanese tend to have more honour than that, in comparison to a typical greedy, monopolising Western company.
 
Well the Big Brother side of the Xbox one just got creepier with the reveal of PRISM, a covert government initiative to track everyone's personal information and activities through various tech companies including Microsoft.
Sony's probably on that list too, but then again, PS4 doesn't require an internet connection every 24 hours.

My two cents? No mega corporation is blameless, of course, but Microsoft has been nickel and dime-ing gamers from the get go compared to Sony and Nintendo. The fact that they still charge for online, you need to buy batteries for their controllers and/or a seperate charging cable, not to mention they got into the console business seemingly just to prove to Sony they could do better after Sony turned down a cooperative deal.
It's all in rather bad taste.

Even MS's beginnings are shady and speaks volumes on the continuing mentality behind the company. Bill Gates took an already existent code, DOS, tweaked it a bit, called it MSDOS and went on to make billions. The same with Windows. It was a cheap copy of the OS in the first Macintosh home computers. Granted, MS have marketed themselves very well in the past. They sold the world on cheap copies of other peoples' innovations. (Except for Kinect maybe and, well, we all know how much that improved our gaming experiences...) I've always disliked MS for this reason and have to admit to feeling happy that they are finally getting backlash from their consumers over the "One".

Sony, on the other hand, has had it's own bumpy road of late what with fears of bankruptcy, the PSN hack, etc. But they have been actual innovators over the years and at least seem to care a little more about their individual customers.

All that being said, I wish no ill will on Xbox or MS. I really don't. (so please don't flame me!) After all, we as gamers benefit from these companies competing and vying for our money. I just think they needed a good kick in the groin to remind them: If you're not serving your consumers, you're just serving yourself. And no-one likes the guy who hogs the buffet.
 
Lain
In the sense that I live aboard a ship and don't have a personal Internet connection, thus forcing me to seek out public hotspots in order to connect.

In the sense that said ship could be underway for several months at a time, making connecting an impossibility.
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Well, lets hope Sony stick to being offline so people in your situation can play games.
 
Badger-X-
Sony, on the other hand, has had it's own bumpy road of late what with fears of bankruptcy, the PSN hack, etc. But they have been actual innovators over the years and at least seem to care a little more about their individual customers.
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Sony, to me, takes the "We care but don't show it" approach. They know their customers will stay loyal & don't need to buy out everything in sight to keep them like MS does. If MS ever lost COD's 1 month exclusive DLC deal they would have an aneurism. :lol:
 
Badger-X-
Particularly why I say no mega corporation is blameless. To my knowledge though, they didn't do it to spite another competitor.
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Turn the clock back to 1991:
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Lewis_Hamilton_
While I wouldn't rule out the possibilities, I would find it much more unlikely. We know Microsoft has resorted to very similar tactics in the past, and without mistakingly seeming racist or playing on racial stereotypes, I think the Japanese tend to have more honour than that, in comparison to a typical greedy, monopolising Western company.
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Thank you, I rest my case.
 
Tornado
Turn the clock back to 1991:
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Yes very nice. It just wasn't exactly how you seem to see it.

Sony was developping a CD peripheral for the SNES. Due to this Nintendo allowed Sony to use SNES technology for a new project called Play Station.
Nintendo did a cheeky move though and announced to make a contract with a competitor, namely Philips (got canceled a little later though).

Because of this Sony decided to go it's own way and developped the real PlayStation, which was called PSX at that time.

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The console you showed was never avaible on the market.
 
Scaff
You mean just like Sony did?
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SONY got into the business because a deal with Nintendo went bad. The SONY big wigs didn't want to make games.

Microsoft has always played dirty pool against Apple. Now they are in gaming and have a lot more money to focus on destroying Nintendo and SONY, using a thug mentality.
 
dr_slump
Yes very nice. It just wasn't exactly how you seem to see it.

Sony was developping a CD peripheral for the SNES. Due to this Nintendo allowed Sony to use SNES technology for a new project called Play Station.
Nintendo did a cheeky move though and announced to make a contract with a competitor, namely Philips (got canceled a little later though).

Because of this Sony decided to go it's own way and developped the real PlayStation, which was called PSX at that time.
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Which is in fact exactly how I seemed to see it. He said he wasn't aware of Sony getting into the business out of spite. I posted a picture of the thing that ultimately led to them getting into the business out of spite.

DaveTheStalker
SONY got into the business because a deal with Nintendo went bad. The SONY big wigs didn't want to make games.
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Sony was a game publisher before they even started working with Nintendo, through Sony Imagesoft.
 
Tornado
Which is in fact exactly how I seemed to see it. He said he wasn't aware of Sony getting into the business out of spite. I posted a picture of the thing that ultimately led to them getting into the business out of spite.
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The question was if Sony spite another competitor in a comparable way and not how Sony got into the bussiness out of spite.

Very different cases.

ALTHOUGH, the original question was different. Scaff's point was the one you were refering to, but badger kinda changed it. And it was badger you quoted.
 
Interesting way of interpreting this statement:
Badger-X-
Particularly why I say no mega corporation is blameless. To my knowledge though, they didn't do it to spite another competitor.
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Which they did, after Nintendo very publicly embarrassed them at CES in 1991 by announcing the partnership with Philips and the cancellation of the deal with Sony after Sony had already announced the original Play Station.
 

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