tougedrft
i think, if im not mistaken, that i've done it before in the hairpins at special stage 11. the way i did it was with my s13 2000cc when i enter with weight transfer heading into the inside, applying brakes, and feathering the throttle after. then when it begins the oversteer i do a lil countersteer, but i just use the throttle the whole way to speed it out cus countersteering in the exiting of the hairpin will most likely lead you to smashing the outside after...especially with and AWD. if you meant zero countersteer by "no countersteer in the exiting" i could kinda of do it, but if you meant no countersteer at all the whole way...thats called 4 wheel drifting in which you have to enter from the outside corner with a lil understeer in the beggining and letting off the gas to start a lil oversteer. and once you get the exact right angle, gently apply and keep feathering the gas to maintain the drift. thats pretty hard though
...well yeah, Tougedrift more or less said in his words what I tried to eplain, to do that with a RWD car would be DIDFFICULT if not IMPOSSSIBLE, it really depends on the turn and car you're using. Not to mention tuning and just how you approach that turn. Even with what I know about drifting, I seldom TRY To clear corners without countersteering...the only example I know of in which right after the turn in, a driver did not countersteer at all due to how he ploted the 'perfect' line with steering, braking and throttle, and didn't even bother to actually grab the steering wheel but reach for ciggerates.
And that my friends was Fujiwara Bunta from Initial D, again, if I ever, EVER saw this in real life, I did not know of it, I can only imagine it MAYBE on a dirt road with an FR thru a hairpin turn if done the RIGHT way, it's so far the ONLY Place or at least on Thatai Maze (sorry for not bieng able to spell that right...) with a 245bhp Trueno (Turbo kit stage 2 and Racing muffler, amdis other various changes...inculding gear ratio changes that will let it hit no more above 100mph...) and a 450+bhpp Opel Astra Touring car, besides that, as far as I know, only, and only in high speed corners can I really picture that being done the right way...that's how I see it...
Silvia Drifter and Swift are right about what they said too, countersteering is not just something that looks cool, least sometimes to those easily ammused (I was at some point, well before 1998 at least...) but as I found in even some arcade games, is necessary to keep the car in line, and unless you found a way to plot the car in the perfect drift line from the start and past the turn in...you will need to countersteer more ofthen than not...
In short, finding the perfect line is very...very difficult...if you really want to go down this path...here's a suggestion...pratice trying to make drifts with as little countersteering as possible...or just as little steering as necessary, I recemond high speed turns only, it sounds crazy but it makes sense if you even think about trying half this stuff in hairpin turns, trust me, this come from a guy whom can turn a 3500lb Z28 Camaro thru a hairpin like it's a 1900lb Trueno 86, and keep on the tail of a an Elise 190 on Apricot hill with a Mustang SVT cobra R (only becuase my brother wanted to find out if the Elise 190 and Mustang SVT cobra R were really comparable, the Elise by a BARE margin could be the winner...)...
I think I'm done for now here...untill later...
) that I can throw into a drift and control with the throttle without any opposite lock. I have to use countersteer to pull out of the drift, though. It's easiest on the 4th to last turn on Apricot Hill.
I'm trying to break the habit and start out stock with sims. I tried a stock S2000 the other day, and it wasn't bad. In a few minutes, I was flicking it around on Apricot Hill.
. SilviaDrifter's Zero Counter vid with the 4WDs was pretty cool tho. I can't do that 
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