Time Trial #54

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Ha ha, same with me.

Currently at # 306 with 1:21.978. No real tune, just a bit of this and a bit of that.

Waiting for one to get posted here.

That's almost the same exact time as me, 25th when I set it last night lol. I couldn't even finsh a lap with the horrible tune that had attempted to fix the horrible stock tune on whichever Vette is the only one I've upgraded - and apparently failed. I worked on it a bit more and it got at least a little better so I could complete laps as often as not, but it's still awfully hard to keep the front end on the ground.

Might spend a little time on this one tuning and comparing the cars, I don't know.
 
Wow, nice and smooth lap, dont see many places to improve either.
On a different not I must say your lap was much better than your choice of avatar pictures.

Thanks, not really sure what you mean with the avatar pictures though.

What setup do you use Darkcraft?

Fully adj. suspension : spring rate at 13.3 (F) and 13.6 (R)
Stage 3 weight reduction
All drivetrain upgrades except the adjustable LSD
Full adjustable transmission , bottom max speed slider set at 260 km/h
Power limiter at 84.6 %
Rear downforce at 20
BB : 5/5 ( haven't touched that but thought I'd mention it )
Oil change ( + engine is not broken in yet ) ;)
 
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You got to admit this one got your blood pressure up. Must be a good challenge :)

Indeed, I don't usually get so frustrated over GT5, I normally relax and have a great time even after 2 years.

But being forced into a standard car and put onto a track surface that PD messed up so badly irked me a bit.

It was trivial once I got out of the heavier ford but it was still frustrating while I struggled with it :lol:
 
I've managed to gold it with a 1:24.091 after about 25-30 laps with lots of fine tuning in-between.

Can probably manage to take off another second or two with a bit more fine tuning and practice, but i need a cup of tea and a snooze first. :D
 
Slidey Vette! That got my forearms going with all that oppo lock :-D

10 laps and a small tune and on 1:21.219
 
I think i know why they (PD) chose the vette...
Not many players were doing the drift trials...
so they incorporated them in this TT:idea:

I painted mine a ridiculus passion pink, maybe it will behave better now:lol:

EDIT: it worked!! 1.21.333 ATM :sly:

i also noticed Amos second account at p73 (1.19.635) ???
and a guy called IMMORTALPILOCK:lol: at p88!!
 
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hey i have a question..
as we're using hards on this TT does the grip increase as they "warm up" ?
 
basswerks1
hey i have a question..
as we're using hards on this TT does the grip increase as they "warm up" ?

My personal experience with this TT is my C5 Vette ran better with cold tires (first two laps) and the newer ones were better after a few laps. However, I'm a conservative driver with high power RWD, so my style will differ from others.
 
I think i know why they (PD) chose the vette...
Not many players were doing the drift trials...
so they incorporated them in this TT:idea:

I painted mine a ridiculus passion pink, maybe it will behave better now:lol:

EDIT: it worked!! 1.21.333 ATM :sly:

i also noticed Amos second account at p73 (1.19.635) ???
and a guy called IMMORTALPILOCK:lol: at p88!!

Iam not this guys he have copy me I dont know him.
 
Just did around 6 laps got a 1.20.014 but a haven't got a setup on there anyone got a good one? Ps this track is great love the flow of it never did it on this game before
 
Just did around 6 laps got a 1.20.014 but a haven't got a setup on there anyone got a good one? Ps this track is great love the flow of it never did it on this game before

I updated the seasonal page with all the current ZR1 tunes, but haven't found any specific to the time trial yet, but that would be a good place to start I suppose. There's 20 to choose from, but the most recent are at the bottom of the list, and probably the best place to start.
 
I updated the seasonal page with all the current ZR1 tunes, but haven't found any specific to the time trial yet, but that would be a good place to start I suppose. There's 20 to choose from, but the most recent are at the bottom of the list, and probably the best place to start.

Thanks mate I will take a look
 
My personal experience with this TT is my C5 Vette ran better with cold tires (first two laps) and the newer ones were better after a few laps. However, I'm a conservative driver with high power RWD, so my style will differ from others.

thanks for the info buddy!
 
Iam not this guys he have copy me I dont know him.

Hell yeah, Immortalpilot! You got a new fan "stalker" or copycat in GT5!! :banghead:

Your "wannabee" is probably bragging for your TT results!!
 
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I updated the seasonal page with all the current ZR1 tunes, but haven't found any specific to the time trial yet, but that would be a good place to start I suppose. There's 20 to choose from, but the most recent are at the bottom of the list, and probably the best place to start.

Thanks for your hard work Adrenaline. I just have a question for you. Tunes are often designed for different tyres and pp restrictions than we are confronted with here. Can you give me a rule of thumb for how to adjust the LSD to suit harder tyres? I guess the suspension and transmission will be roughly the same regardless of pp levels or tyre choice, but things concerning grip, like the LSD, have to be tweaked I guess. A bit of advice would let amateurs like me use a tune like Praiano's which is made for higher pp and racing softs.
Thanks in advance.
 
Well, IMMORTALPILOT!
We know @ gtplanet. IMMORTALPILOCK ain't you, but rest of the world doesn't!!
 
Thanks for your hard work Adrenaline. I just have a question for you. Tunes are often designed for different tyres and pp restrictions than we are confronted with here. Can you give me a rule of thumb for how to adjust the LSD to suit harder tyres? I guess the suspension and transmission will be roughly the same regardless of pp levels or tyre choice, but things concerning grip, like the LSD, have to be tweaked I guess. A bit of advice would let amateurs like me use a tune like Praiano's which is made for higher pp and racing softs.
Thanks in advance.

Um, a general rule of thumb.
The softer the tire, the stiffer the springs.
Thus, in reverse, if the tune is designed around Racing Softs, and you're going to downgrade tires, you should soften the springs up by a percentage. The actual percentage is not a known factor. If I had to ballpark, I'd say 5-10% per tire grade?

As for the LSD...
I'd say it's far easier to just create your own for the specific tire grade based on stability and outside/inside tire spin.
If your outside tire spins, lower the LSD Accel.
If the inside tire spins, Raise it.
The general rule of thumb, is I lower the LSD Accel setting 1-2 per tire grade.
Initial and DeAccel are a bit trickier and usually more effective in testing/driving. If you need more stability in general, raise the Initial. If you need more rotation (at the potential sacrifice of acceleration and 'forward grip') lower the initial.
If you need more stability under braking/corner entry, raise the LSD Braking sensitivity. I recommend trying to get as close to 5 as possible most of the time though.
* I say potential, because this is not a widely agreed upon standpoint within the tuning community, but it is my personal opinion.

Hope this helps.

Edit:
Just checked Praiano's settings, I'd jump down to a 9/14/9 to begin with.
Then adjust based on what I've described above. I'd avoid the positive rear toe, raise the front ride height for the bumpy track, and 11.6/11.2 on the springs and then go from there. Ride height 5/5 and look for bottoming out on the tire load indicators.

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Just noticed the rear Downforce. Due to the updated physics and their relation to aerodynamics, I'd lower this until the car developed oversteer. I might take the car for a spin today.
 
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Um, a general rule of thumb.
The softer the tire, the stiffer the springs.
Thus, in reverse, if the tune is designed around Racing Softs, and you're going to downgrade tires, you should soften the springs up by a percentage. The actual percentage is not a known factor. If I had to ballpark, I'd say 5-10% per tire grade?

Soften = lower value / stiffen = higher value?
As for the LSD...
I'd say it's far easier to just create your own for the specific tire grade based on stability and outside/inside tire spin.
If your outside tire spins, lower the LSD Accel.
If the inside tire spins, Raise it.

Spins = goes red?
The general rule of thumb, is I lower the LSD Accel setting 1-2 per tire grade.
You lower the LSD per harder tyre grade?
Initial and DeAccel are a bit trickier and usually more effective in testing/driving. If you need more stability in general, raise the Initial. If you need more rotation (at the potential sacrifice of acceleration and 'forward grip') lower the initial.
If you need more stability under braking/corner entry, raise the LSD Braking sensitivity. I recommend trying to get as close to 5 as possible most of the time though.

Hope this helps.
It surely does. Sorry for my imbecile questions but I'm really trying to get a handle on all this. I really have a lot of respect for you guys who play with this stuff and are bothered to share it with us :)
 
Soften = lower value / stiffen = higher value?


Spins = goes red?

You lower the LSD per harder tyre grade?

It surely does. Sorry for my imbecile questions but I'm really trying to get a handle on all this. I really have a lot of respect for you guys who play with this stuff and are bothered to share it with us :)

Yes, yes, yes, thank you.
Edit'd the above post with some tidbits pertaining to you.
 
Hey does amo ever post his setups? And does he always get 1st place?

Amo does post his setups sometimes... but not on GTPlanet. He has an account on these forums but he rarely logs on. He has about 15 TT wins under his belt I think. :crazy:
 
Amo does post his setups sometimes... but not on GTPlanet. He has an account on these forums but he rarely logs on. He has about 15 TT wins under his belt I think. :crazy:

I would love to have his setups just to see how close I could get but then I couldn't blame my slow time on the setup then lol
 
I would love to have his setups just to see how close I could get but then I couldn't blame my slow time on the setup then lol

Or you might just end up beating him :lol:
Then, as he's so amazed by your laptime he sends you a pm to ask for your set-up because he can't reach your blistering pace, to which you respond "yours"
One can only dream :lol:
 
Since I can't ever hope to get near the top of the rankings in TTs I like to try to gold them with some less likely cars. To that end I bought a new Corvette Convertible (C3) loaded up the power and reduced its weight. Haven't quite got gold yet (may need to break the car in first) but I'm getting close. If anyone's interested in my tune I'll post it once I do get it fully sorted (and hopefully manage the gold).

Car is a lot of fun and personally I prefer its classic looks to the newer cars.:crazy:

Oddly enough due to V2:10 it's PP is much lower than the newer cars but you have nearly identical power to weight with them.:odd:
 
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