Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen

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Yeah, that's what I was referring to. Actually, I was talking about the Wikipedia article on the film, which cites Bay - the director, not the user - as describing the Fallen as being "apocalyptic".
 
The trailer is now online officially on a few sites with SD and possibly HD quality. Few days early for those impatient. If I wasn't capped I would link to it but I can't even get most sites to load that have any kind of images. How do people use dial up still is beyond me.

One of the screencaps I did manage to see though gives away that the scene where scropinok jumps at another transformer it is jetfire and jetfire sort of has a cane to walk on.
 
I found what is supposed to be the official list of main robot characters, but it will supposedly have more than 60.

http://www.cinematical.com/2009/04/02/meet-the-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-robots/

Autobots
Optimus Prime, whose alternate form is a Peterbilt truck.

Ironhide the weapons specialist, who transforms into a GMC Topkick.

Ratchet the medic, and a Hummer H2.

Bumblebee, who will now be a 2010 Chevorlet Camaro. (This is the only Transformer I ever owned, by the way)

Arcee, the female Autobot, who will be Megan Fox's pink motorcycle. She was actualy supposed to be in the first movie, but Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci felt "we needed to win the audience over before asking for that suspension of disbelief: a feminine alien robot."

Jolt, originally a Decepticon, but in this he's a good guy. He'll be switching into a Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid.

Jetfire, an older Decepticon who switches sides, and transforms into a SR71 Blackbird jet. According to Michael Bay: "He's old, craggy, forgetful ... doesn't work very well. Can't transform very well, because he's very geriatric. They get stuck with him a lot. He knows the plan of the bad guys, but he forgets all the good parts of the plan."

Skid and Mudflap, a.k.a. "The Twins" a.k.a. Chevrolet Beat and Trax concept cars."Some of the junior Transformers are just dumb. But it's great for kids because they're like the Little Engine That Could. They're (screw)-ups, but they get really heroic at the end," says Bay.

Sideswipe, who was a bright red Lamborghini in the original will now be a GM silver Corvette Stingray concept car.
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Decepticons
Starscream, Megatron's one-time second in command. He's a F-22 Raptor jet, and can be seen in the gallery below.

Scorponok, the memorable mechanical scorpion

Sideways, who is the Audi R8 crashing through a building in the trailer

Ravage, the mechanical jaguar. He's the one Orci and Kurtzman seem to be the most excited about. "In the spirit of 'more than meets the eye,' Ravage isn't just lethal because of his sharp teeth," says Kurtzman. "There's actually another skill set Ravage has that didn't exist before, so there's going to be a surprise for fans." He'll still be the ultimate spy connected to Soundwave.

Soundwave, who was originally a cassette player in the toys, he will now be an orbiting space satellite. "They are still connected," Orci says of Soundwave and his pet. "But rather than trying to hold onto a notion as antiquated as an audiotape, which some members of our audience have maybe never laid eyes on, we wanted to go a new way."
There's photos of him in the gallery.

The Doctor, a spiderlike droid who can turn into instruments of torture. He'll be set loose on Shia LeBeouf's Sam so consider it revenge for Mutt!

Wheelie, a small radio-controlled truck.

Demolisher, one of the Constructicons that transform into construction vehicles.

Devestator, a giant robot formed by all the Constructicons (Scavenger, Scrapper, Hightower, Longhaul, Rampage, Overload and Mixmaster) joining together."He's made of vehicles designed to build, and he turns into is someone who loves to destroy," Orci says. "He is an agent of absolute chaos." According to Bay, Steven Spielberg saw it and said "This is f------ awesome!"

Last but not least is the title character of The Fallen. He's an ancient robot, the Transformers' version of Lucifer, whose arrogance caused him to be banished. He's the key to life on Earth and Cybertron.
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If Megatron makes a return of some form I am guessing they are keeping his name hidden.
 
FoolKiller
I found what is supposed to be the official list of main robot characters, but it will supposedly have more than 60.

http://www.cinematical.com/2009/04/02/meet-the-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-robots/

Autobots


Decepticons


If Megatron makes a return of some form I am guessing they are keeping his name hidden.
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Actually, Megatron is confirmed. His toy has been seen and if you've seen some of the pictures from the extended trailer, he is the robot holding down Sam. The tank treads on hie feet heavely resemble that of the concept drawings as well as the picture of him on the Hasbro site before it was taken down.
 
The toys clearly label him as megatron. From what I have heard (speculation) the story of him being restored is that either ratchet is kidnapped or a decepticon medic are used to rebuild megatron using spare parts (hence the disproportioned arms) after he was salvaged from the ocean.

The doctor is actually called "scalpel". Here is a picture of him and below a picture of the toy. Alt mode is a microscope.
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Arcee splits into 3 bikes and can split into 3 smaller bots (as seen in the trailer). One of the bikes is blue which resembles a toy at the toy fair with a separate name Chromia so either for the sake of the toy they gave the blue bot a name or Arcee is a combiner of 3 nameless bikes.

Wheelie in the toys is an Autobot so maybe he changes sides. Grabbed off wiki he apparently works for the Decepticons but is an Autobot.

Sorry Foolkiller going to add a few names to your list:

Autobots
Optimus Prime
Ratchet
Ironhide
Bumblebee
Jetfire
Arcee
Chromia
3rd bike which may be called Knockout
Mudflap
Skidz
Sideswipe
Jolt
Wheelie

Decepticons
Megatron
Soundwave
Starscream
Ravage
Another smaller bot that was seen in a photo of one of the scenes of the movie. Was too blurred though to get anything but an outline out of it.
Devastator which combines from the following
Demolishor
Hightower
LongHaul
MixMaster
Rampage
Scrapper
Scorpnok minus a tail
Sideways
Scalpel
Barricade
At least 1 Insecticon (shown in trailer)
Alice (a humanoid bot) aka. a pretender

Then there is the Fallen who I guess classifies a Decepticon but I think is happy to destroy any bot in his way.

So that is 13 Autobots, 19 Decepticons. 32 total so far and definitely more to be revealed.

EDIT: name for the doctor is scalpel
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EDIT2: 3rd bike Autobot is called Knockout apparently. Also Chromia (blue bike) is Ironhide's girlfriend.
 
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J, you're right about Wheelie. Optimus Rhyme draws that parallel with its MC named Wheelie Cyberman, because he's an autobeat among wackacons.
 
Jetfire was a defector to begin with, and that's nice to see. but making him a crotchety old rustbucket (that probably has G1's Kup's accent)...that's a twist. wonder if they'll throw in the OS background that he used to be Starscream's BFF.
 
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Jetfire was a defector to begin with, and that's nice to see. but making him a crotchety old rustbucket (that probably has G1's Kup's accent)...that's a twist. wonder if they'll throw in the OS background that he used to be Starscream's BFF.
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I'm curious how they plan to do his backstory, as they already stole it for Megatron's backstory.
 
J-PaP
Were you able to download it? If yes you probably are missing the right codec.
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I was able to download so I guess so. What codec do I need to play it?
 
In trawling of the internet, I stumbled upon two different variations of what the plot might be. The first is an early treatment that has very little resemblance to the actual film, and the second might just be fan speculation ... but if it is, it's damned good. So much so that it's the first time a fan-written treatment - assuming it is fan-written - has impressed me so much that I wouldn't mind seeing it as the actual film.

The first one revolves around the implications of the Allspark. The massive amounts of energy discharged by the alien artifact couldn't be hidden, and so a conduit was constructed from the Hoover Dam to the sleepy town of Las Vegas where it was stored. The City of Lights was built atop it, essentially making the gambling capital of the world the largest battery on the face of the planet, the batteries underneath it ensuring the future of North America's energy supply for decades. Unfortunately, the Decepticons have learned of it after they take control of the abandoned Hoover Dam facility, and plan an attack. A surgical strike against Las Vegas will completely cut the power to America, the only country in the world that could launch a sustained attack against the Decepticons on their own. Meanwhile, Starscream has decided that things have changed since Megatron's death at Sam's hands, and mounts a challenge for the leadership against a newly-resurrected Megatron. Everything culminates in a climactic battle in Las Vegas, where the Decepticons aren't realy fighting the Autobots, but rather the factions loyal to Megatron and Starscream are fighting each other for control of the city and leadership of the Decepticons. Megatron wins when he kills Starscream - also among the dead are Lennox, Mikhaela and Bumblebee, while Optimus is gravely wounded - and most of Starscream's followers meet the same fate. The few that survive band together with the Autobots, but that make it pretty clear that their alliance is conditional and once Megatron is removed from the leadership of the Decepticons, the alliance will cease to exist.

As the second one seems far more legitimate, I'll spoilerise it just in case:
This one is concerned with the origins of Allsparks. Although there is only ever one Allspark, its energy is not finite. The Allspark will eventually die, but provided there is something left of it, it can be created anew. However, it quite literally requires the power of a star. The Cybertronians once explored uninhabited star systems where they constructed temple-shines on barren planets that could harness the relative power of the sun. The entire star system would die as the star itself woul be converted into the Allspark. One of the most recent temple-shrines constructed was in what is now Egypt, but by the time it was required to cast a new Allspark, life had evolved and the temple-shrine was left alone (either because Megatron's betrayal and the subsequent civil war drove it from the minds of the Cybertonians; because removing the temple shrine meant interfering with primitive human cultures and the Cybertonians were unwilling to do so; or because humanity was in its infancy and if everthe race died out or drove itself to extinction, the temple-shrine could still be of use). The warring Autobots and Decepticons are unaware of this, but Starscream believes the war will drive the Cybertronians to extinction (and that it may well be their due). Refusing to see his race destroy itself, he uses a dormant space bridge on earth (aso in Egypt for proximity to the temple-shrine) and starts trying to contact the far reaches of the universe. What he finds is the Fallen, banished to another dimension (teleportation temporarily moves the user through this alternate dimension where time and space are not fixed constraints), who is unaware of how much time has passed. Starscream sees him as a figure he could unite the Cybertronians under to guarantee the survival of his race, an idea the Fallen likes as he would rule the Cybertronians and set his eyes on universal domination shortly thereafter. But he needs an Allspark, and when Starscream cannot produce it, he tells Starscream of the temple-shrines and the purpose they fulfil. Starscream acquires the last fragment of the Allspark from its hiding place in Diego Garcia, and takes it to Egypt. Meanhile, the Autobots have noticed Starscream's unusual movements after a series of pointless battles intended by Starscream to distract them while he goes about his business with the Fallen; a newly-resurrected Megatron, filled with rage directed towards Optimus and Sam in particular, only serves to mke Starscream's plans easier. The Autobots fall back and rally to Egypt in an attempt to stop Starscream from destorying the sun to power a new Allspark where the find the Fallen.
But like I said ... it could just be speculation designed to accoutn for everything we know about the film.
 
After reading both of those, the 2nd one feels more believeable. The story of the pyramid seems to coincide with the look of the Fallen as he has this Egyptian look to him.
 
Oh, yeah, because aliens building space-gateways in Egypt is SO original. They might as well make it the deepest point on Earth. Where Megatron and the Allspark remnant happen to reside.
 
Not sure if that was a response to my post, but I mean believeable as in it being more likely as the main story.
 
RACECAR
After reading both of those, the 2nd one feels more believeable. The story of the pyramid seems to coincide with the look of the Fallen as he has this Egyptian look to him.
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It's funny: the first one is actually far more legitimate than the second simply because I have seen copies of the treatment it appeared in. It's actually a pretty generic story and sounds more appropriate as an alternative to the first film; the humans decide to use an electro-magnetic pulse generator to wipe out the Dcepticons (and, by proxy, the Autobots) in some massive tower in Las Vegas. And the implication is that Mikhaela might survive falling from said tower because she is inadvertently protected from debris by a dying Decepticon; the Cybertronians supposedly have a shield around them, that largely just serves as a slight retcon to enable her to live.

As for the second story, I haven't seen any documentation to prove it is real, and I've had to connect the dots myself a few times. About 95% of what I posted is the same as what I read; the remaining 5% consists mostly of assumptions I had to make to have everything make sense. Sorry I had to do it, but I had to explain a few things as the outline I read doesn't make it too clear.

Omnis
Oh, yeah, because aliens building space-gateways in Egypt is SO original. They might as well make it the deepest point on Earth. Where Megatron and the Allspark remnant happen to reside.
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Maybe, but the implication is that the Pyramids were there before the Egyptians were - or at least one of them, the temple, was - and that the ancient Egyptians imitated the structures when burying their dead.

Also, the last shard of he Allspark has been confirmed to reside at the naval station in Diego Garcia.
 
Omnis
Oh, yeah, because aliens building space-gateways in Egypt is SO original.
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It is just as original as anything else Michael Bay has done or Orci and Kurtzman have written. Due to its unoriginality I would put money on that being similar to whhat this group of movie makerrs are going with.

Do you race?
It's funny: the first one is actually far more legitimate than the second simply because I have seen copies of the treatment it appeared in.
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Except the second is more in line with the story of The Fallen.
 
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Sure is. Also if you look in the dust on the right of the screen during the scene with devastator you can see what looks like an ice cream truck. Just shows you how ridiculously big Devastator is.
 
Already found some funny stuff in the trailer(apart from Bumblebee crying his eyes out):

Optimus spitting something out after he gets knocked to the ground (Beast Wars Refference?)

Jet Fire says something funny. Cracked up after I first heard him.
 
Interesting video from this year's Toy fair:




One thing I'm trying to figure out is if that Devastator toy is combined from the constructicon toys or if its just a stand alone toy. They seem of reasonable size to do so, but thats just me.
 
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Woah, I've just seen the official trailer on YouTube and this movie looks absolutely killer! 👍

I haven't seen the first one though, but if that one was as good as this one is looking, I should check this Friday if they have it in town so I can rent it. Say, there's no chance girls like this movie? :lol:

Definitly going to catch this one, it's been a long time since I've watched an al new movie. The last one was Batman: The Dark Knight... It's been too long.
 

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