Tsukuba Time Attack League & Hall of Fame

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  1. spd

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    Tsukuba Time Attack League & Hall of Fame


    Rules:
    -Time Attack mode,
    -stock settings,
    -driving assist off,
    -no black flags.

    I will divide results into classes and update this post as othen as necessary. Please write your times mentioning what car from which class it was driven with. I leave only your best result achieved in a certain car and you get medals only for your single best time in a certain class.


    Medal Table
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     # |Nick         |Gold...|Silver.|Bronze.|
     1.|Wolfe        |   3   |   3   |   2   |
     2.|MrGreen      |   2   |   4   |   0   |
     3.|Mick777      |   2   |   0   |   0   |
     4.|spd          |   0   |   0   |   4   |
     5.|WR2          |   0   |   0   |   1   |
     6.|Chapman2424  |   0   |   0   |   0   |
      .|CoolColJ     |   0   |   0   |   0   |
      .|deki         |   0   |   0   |   0   |
      .|Giagua       |   0   |   0   |   0   |
      .|GT master42  |   0   |   0   |   0   |
      .|homeforsummer|   0   |   0   |   0   |
      .|MaMoe        |   0   |   0   |   0   |
      .|Matej        |   0   |   0   |   0   |
    14.|nostuner03   |   0   |   0   |   0   |


    Class R
    1. 0'49"434 MrGreen Audi R8 Team GOH 2004 (Race Car) - Replay
    2. 0'49"613 MrGreen Toyota GT-ONE (Race Car)
    3. 0'49"981 Wolfe Mazda 787B (Race Car)
    4. 0'50"109 WR2 Toyota GT-ONE (Race Car)
    5. 0'50"177 Mick777 BMW Mclaren F1 GTR (Race Car) - Replay
    6. 0'50"297 WR2 Audi R8 Team GOH 2003 (Race Car)
    7. 0'50"319 spd Toyota GT-ONE (Race Car) - Replay
    8. 0'50"743 MrGreen BMW Mclaren F1 GTR (Race Car)
    9. 0'50"942 spd Audi R8 Team GOH 2004 (Race Car)
    10. 0'51"095 MaMoe Mazda 787B (Race Car)
    11. 0'51"605 nostuner03 BMW Mclaren F1 GTR (Race Car) - Replay
    12. 0'51''684 MaMoe Audi R8 Team GOH 2004 (Race Car)
    13. 0'51"734 WR2 BMW McLaren F1 GTR (Race Car)
    14. 0'52"446 nostuner03 Nissan Xanavi Nismo GT-R (Race Car)
    15. 0'53"174 WR2 Honda G'ZOX-NSX (Race Car)
    16. 0'53"889 WR2 Mazda 787B (Race Car)
    17. 1'02"145 spd Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII (Rally Car)
    18. 1'02"306 spd Ford Focus (Rally Car)
    19. 1'02"816 WR2 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII (Rally Car)


    Class A
    1. 0'57"972 Mick777 Caterham Super 7 Superlight R500
    2. 0'58"777 MrGreen Caterham Super 7 Superlight R500
    3. 0'59"552 Wolfe Caterham Super 7 Superlight R500
    4. 0'59"703 WR2 Caterham Super 7 Superlight R500
    5. 0'59"983 spd Caterham Super 7 Superlight R500 - Replay
    6. 1'00"448 MrGreen RuF CTR
    7. 1'00"521 Mick777 Ruf CTR
    8. 1'00"904 Mick777 Ford GT
    9. 1'01"984 WR2 Ford GT
    10. 1'02"193 WR2 Mercedes-Benz SLR
    11. 1'02"335 Giagua Ruf CTR
    12. 1'02"493 Wolfe Ruf CTR
    13. 1'02"822 spd Ford GT
    14. 1'03"091 Mick777 Honda NSX Type R (NA2) - Replay
    15. 1'03''573 MrGreen Dauer EB110
    16. 1'03"617 MrGreen Dodge Viper
    17. 1'04"077 WR2 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR
    18. 1'04"174 Wolfe RX-7 Spirit R (FD3S)
    19. 1'04"874 WR2 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-SpecII Nür (R34)
    20. 1'05''629 MrGreen TVR Tamora
    21. 1'05"999 WR2 Nissan Nismo S15 Silvia R-tune
    22. 1'06"055 WR2 Aston Martin V12 Vanquish


    Class B
    1. 1'04"834 Mick777 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C - Replay Replay 2 - VGS
    2. 1'05"414 MrGreen Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (C5) - Replay
    3. 1'05"782 Wolfe Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (C5)
    4. 1'05"831 MrGreen Shelby Cobra 427 S/C - Replay
    5. 1'05''986 MrGreen Skyline GT-R Vspec II (R32) - Replay
    6. 1'06"013 spd Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (C5) - Replay
    7. 1'06"137 Giagua Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (C5)
    8. 1'06"277 WR2 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 (C5)
    9. 1'06"490 MrGreen Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Coupe (C3) - Replay
    10. 1'06"828 GT master42 Skyline GT-R Vspec II (R32)
    11. 1'06"890 spd Skyline GT-R Vspec II (R32)
    12. 1'06"908 Wolfe Toyota Supra RZ (JZA80)
    13. 1'06"919 WR2 Fairlady Z Version S (Z33)
    14. 1'07"238 WR2 Honda S2000
    15. 1'07"316 Wolfe Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Coupe (C3)
    16. 1'07"356 GT master42 Toyota Supra RZ (JZA80)
    17. 1'07"683 spd Honda S2000
    18. 1'07"983 Wolfe Fairlady Z Version S (Z33)
    19. 1'08"179 CoolColJ Skyline GT-R Vspec II (R32)
    20. 1'08"687 WR2 Honda Civic Type R (EP3)


    Class C
    1. 1'07"394 Wolfe BMW Z4 3.0i
    2. 1'07"446 MrGreen Lotus Elise 111S - Replay
    3. 1'07''494 MrGreen BMW Z4 3.0i
    4. 1'07"530 spd BMW Z4 3.0i - Replay
    5. 1'07"572 Mick777 Lotus Elise 111S
    6. 1'07"639 WR2 BMW Z4 3.0i
    7. 1'07"843 Giagua De Tomaso Pantera GTS
    8. 1'07"856 Wolfe Legacy B4 RSK (BE5)
    9. 1'07"981 WR2 Honda Integra Type R (DC2)
    10. 1'08''755 MaMoe Lotus Elise 111S
    11. 1'09"135 homeforsummer Lotus Elise 111S
    12. 1'09"176 homeforsummer Honda Integra Type R (DC2)
    13. 1'09"277 spd Honda Civic Type R (EK9)
    14. 1'09"340 WR2 Honda Civic Type R (EK9)
    15. 1'09"462 homeforsummer Honda Civic Type R (EK9)
    16. 1'09"596 GT master42 Toyota Soarer 2.5GT-Twinturbo
    17. 1'09"640 Wolfe M3 Sport Evolution (E30)
    18. 1'09"654 Chapman2424 Jaguar XJR 4.0 Supercharged V8
    19. 1'09"962 deki Honda Integra Type R (DC2)
    20. 1'10"517 Chapman2424 Audi TT 3.2 quattro Sline
    21. 1'10"564 homeforsummer Honda Accord Euro-R (CL7)
    22. 1'10''993 MrGreen Lancia Stratos
    23. 1'11"061 Chapman2424 Volvo S60 R
    24. 1'11"270 homeforsummer Honda Accord Euro-R (CL1)
    25. 1'11"744 spd Toyota Altezza RS200


    Class D
    1. 1'10''185 MrGreen Toyota Vitz RS Turbo
    2. 1'10"335 Wolfe Toyota Vitz RS Turbo
    3. 1'10"757 spd Toyota Vitz RS Turbo
    4. 1'11''170 MrGreen Subaru Forester
    5. 1'11"416 spd Audi TT Roadster 1.8T quattro
    6. 1'11"555 WR2 Audi TT Roadster 1.8T quattro
    7. 1'11"593 spd Mini Cooper S
    8. 1'11"640 WR2 Mini Cooper S
    9. 1'11"770 homeforsummer Mini Cooper S
    10. 1'12"161 Wolfe Audi A4 3.0 quattro Sport
    11. 1'12''324 MrGreen Mazda MX-5 II (N88C)
    12. 1'12.370 Matej Daihatsu Storia X4
    13. 1'12"975 WR2 Volkswagen Touareg
    14. 1'13"140 Chapman2424 Audi TT Roadster 1.8T quattro
    15. 1'13"728 Chapman2424 Jaguar X-Type 2.5 V6 Sport
    16. 1'14"500 Wolfe Alpine A110 1600SC
    17. 1'14"593 homeforsummer Hyundai Coupe
    18. 1'14"612 WR2 Citroën Saxo VTS
    19. 1'14''976 MrGreen Citroën Saxo VTS
    20. 1'15.034 Alpine A110 1600SC


    Class E
    1. 1'15"064 Wolfe Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
    2. 1'15''264 MrGreen Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
    3. 1'15"579 spd Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio Verde - Replay
    4. 1'15"581 WR2 Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
    5. 1'15"773 WR2 Fiat Abarth 131 Rally
    6. 1'15"884 spd Lotus Elan S.3 - Replay
    7. 1'16''031 MrGreen Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC10)
    8. 1'16"088 Wolfe Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC10)
    9. 1'16"089 homeforsummer Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
    10. 1'16"158 spd Opel Vita GSi
    11. 1'16"168 Wolfe Nissan Fairlady 240ZG (S30)
    12. 1'16"334 spd Mazda Demio
    13. 1'17"061 homeforsummer Fiat Abarth 131 Rally
    14. 1'17"718 WR2 Toyota Estima Hybrid
    15. 1'17"703 spd Suzuki Cappuccino
    16. 1'17"860 WR2 Suzuki Cappuccino
    17. 1'18"021 homeforsummer Toyota Estima Hybrid
    18. 1'18"517 WR2 Mini Cooper 1275S MkI
    19. 1'18"959 homeforsummer Mini Cooper 1275S MkI
    20. 1'19"322 homeforsummer Citroën DS 23 Pallas
    21. 1'19"766 WR2 Smart Fortwo Cabrio


    Class F
    1. 1'29''468 Wolfe Citroën 2CV6 Charleston
    2. 1'29''496 MrGreen Citroën 2CV6 Charleston
    3. 1'29"779 spd Citroën 2CV6 Charleston
    4. 1'30"711 Wolfe Subaru Young SS
    5. 1'32''252 MrGreen Subaru Young SS
    6. 1'32''982 spd Subaru Young SS - Replay
    7. 1'34''066 MrGreen Fiat 500 F - Replay
    8. 1'34"235 Mick777 Fiat 500 F
    9. 1'34"453 spd Volskwagen Beetle Type1 - Replay
    10. 1'34''618 MrGreen Volskwagen Beetle Type1
     
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  2. Wolfe

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    I'll post some times as soon as I have access to a PS2 again. :)
     
  3. Chapman2424

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    A few to be added to the list :

    Audi TT 1.8T - Class D - 1'13"140
    Audi TT 3.2L - Class C - 1'10"517
    Volvo S60R - Class C - 1'11"061
    Jaguar XJR - Class C - 1'09"654


    Cheers,

    S. Chapman
     
  4. spd

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    OK, added your results mate. I'm going to update my new times soon.
     
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  5. Wolfe

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    Just spent some time running through most of the classes, here's what I got:

    Class A
    • 1'04"174 Wolfe RX-7 Spirit R (FD3S)
    Class B
    • 1'07"983 Wolfe Fairlady Z Version S (Z33)
    • 1'08"296 Wolfe MR2 GT-S (SW20)
    Class C
    • 1'08"148 Wolfe Legacy B4 RSK (BE5)
    • 1'08"274 Wolfe Z4 3.0i
    • 1'09"640 Wolfe M3 Sport Evolution (E30)
    Class D
    • 1'12"161 Wolfe A4 3.0 quattro Sport
    • 1'14"500 Wolfe Alpine A110 1600SC
    Class E
    • 1'16"717 Wolfe Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC10)
    Class F
    • 1'31"241 Wolfe Subaru Young SS
     
  6. spd

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    Very nice times Wolfe! Especially your result with the FD is impressive, I couldn't make it go around the track in less than 1'05 :O
     
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  7. Wolfe

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    Thanks, when I do these things I aim for the top. :) Nice job defending classes A and B. :tup:
     
  8. Chapman2424

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    Might be time to blow the dust off the X-Type in D-Class and let the kitty purr!

    S. Chapman
     
  9. spd

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    Wolfe, nice to eventually see some competition here :}
    Chapman2424, go ahead!


    I fooled around with a few FWDs today, here's what I got:

    Class C
    • 1'09"277 Honda Civic Type R (EK9)
    Class D
    • 1'11"882 Mini Cooper S
    • 1'14"844 Citroen Saxo VTS
    • 1'15"045 Peugeot 106 S16
    Class E
    • 1'16"698 Opel Vita GSi

    Back on top in D and E. (Until Wolfe takes those cars for a ride round Tsukuba) I'll try to hit back in C and E as well, but it doesn't seem easy...
     
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  10. Chapman2424

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    Best I could pull off after 20 or so laps today

    Class D - Jaguar X-Type 2.5 V6 Sport = 1'13"728
    Was running 1'15 - then low 1'14 - this one was the pick of the litter today.

    Cheers,

    S. Chapman
     
  11. homeforsummer

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    Just the one lap a few laps from me tonight -

    Class C

    1'09"135 homeforsummer Lotus Elise 111S
    1'10"472 homeforsummer Honda Integra Type R (DC2)

    Class E

    1'17"061 homeforsummer Abarth 131 Rally

    Not too happy with it to be honest. I haven't played EPR for a bit, indeed any PS2 game, and I'm not enjoying Enthusia's handling. I'm led to believe the Integra R is one of the best handling FWD cars ever but I'm really not feeling it from the game! And the Elise is a bit too... grippy. And the Abarth, in true rally style, wanted to go sideways everywhere.

    You definitely notice the understeer more on a track like Tsukuba than you do on the Nurburgring.
     
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  12. Wolfe

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    I personally like the Celica SS-II better. Remarkably balanced for a wrong wheel drive.
     
  13. homeforsummer

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    I might give it a try, though I haven't unlocked everything yet in the free race/time trial modes (and having issues picking the right cars and tracks to make the ones I haven't got appear) so it'll have to wait until I've unlocked it!

    Eesh, and I hate the term wrong wheel drive... :ouch:
     
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    One lap tonight.

    Class D

    1'14"593 homeforsummer Hyundai Coupe
     
  15. spd

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    Glad to see some rush here. Updated.
     
  16. Wolfe

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    Some of my favorite cars are FF, but that won't stop me from making fun of them. :)

    Here's an update of a time, plus some more:

    Class A
    • 1'02"493 Wolfe CTR
    Class B
    • 1'06"908 Wolfe Supra RZ (JZA80)
    • 1'07"316 Wolfe 1971 CORVETTE Stingray Coupe (C3)
    Class E
    • 1'16"088 Wolfe Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC10)
    • 1'16"168 Wolfe Fairlady 240ZG (S30)
     
  17. deki

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    Hey guys, this is my best time for the DC2R

    Class C

    1'09"962 deki Honda Integra Type R (DC2)

    more times to follow....
     
  18. homeforsummer

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    A few more times from me today:

    Class C

    1'09"176 homeforsummer Honda Integra Type R (DC2)
    1'09"462 homeforsummer Honda Civic Type R (EK9)
    1'10"564 homeforsummer Honda Accord Euro-R (CL7)
    1'11"270 homeforsummer Honda Accord Euro-R (CL1)

    Class D

    1'11"770 homeforsummer Mini Cooper S

    Class E

    1'16"089 homeforsummer Alfa Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
    1'18"021 homeforsummer Toyota Estima Hybrid
    1'19"322 homeforsummer Citroen DS 23 Pallas

    Who knows what I was playing at the other night with the Integra, must have just been having a bad day! Anyway, that time is more representative of it's pace I think. I wasn't overdriving it, just being smooth. It rolls more than the Civic R does but the extra speed down the straights helps with the lower lap time. The CL7 Accord almost stuck with my Integra ghost through most of the lap until the long straight and final corner and the CL1 Accord felt like the Integra but by virtue of more weight sets the slowest Type R time.

    The Cooper S put in a more than respectable time for a car from the class below - it felt a bit unruly in slow corners and didn't grip as well as the Hondas in fast corners but it got pretty close to the Accord CL1's time. The Estima felt like taking a large, drunk elephant down a ski-slope such was the way it wallowed about, slid without warning and gained pace deliberately but with no discernable haste. My time for that shouldn't be too difficult to beat.

    The DS felt like an Elise after the Estima so I was surprised when it put in a slower time, though it's probably a power issue. The Alfa Spider felt (and was) quicker than both, and felt more alive than any of the other cars.

    I think I'm getting the hang of EPR again, it's becoming more enjoyable - just as it should be.
     
  19. spd

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    Actually its limits are well below 1'10, once I slightly blackflaged it on the second last corner and got 1'09"914. The lap was far from smooth and perfect.
    Wolfe, I sense you have an aversion to drive FWDs :}


    Anyways, got a few new times.

    Class C:
    1'08"786 spd Audi TT 3.2 quattro Sline

    Class E:
    1'16"334 spd Mazda Demio

    Class F:
    1'29"779 spd Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
     
  20. homeforsummer

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    I know ;) See my latest time above...
     
  21. spd

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    I must have overlooked it, sorry.
     
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  22. deki

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    Some good times there homeforsummer, do you use a wheel or the controller?
    Im trying to get the Integra Type R DC2 into 1'08s and the EK9 Civic in low 1'09s.I find the civic alot better in cornering compared to the dc2 without much body roll but loses out in the straits due to less power.
     
  23. homeforsummer

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    I use the controller, never used a wheel for any length of time and don't have enough free income to buy one!

    I reckon you're right though, the Integra is definitely capable of a 1'08 and ditto the Civic with a 1'09. And again, you're right about how they handle. The Integra rolls noticeably more but makes up for it on the straights. I think the Civic is geared a little better though - it lets you drive out of corners and you can change up when you're facing in a straight line again. In the Integra, the ratios are lower and I found myself having to change up whilst an inside front was still spinning out of the corner so it would bog down a little as I changed into third. With longer gearing the Integra would be quite a bit quicker I reckon.

    Times:

    Class D

    1'13"266 homeforsummer Volkswagen Touareg
    1'14"103 homeforsummer Mitsubishi Pajero Short
    1'14"390 homeforsummer Nissan Elgrand
    1'16"119 homeforsummer Toyota Alphard V
    1'16"513 homeforsummer Chevrolet Astro

    Class E

    1'18"893 homeforsummer Smart ForTwo Cabrio
    1'19"255 homeforsummer Mini Cooper 1275S Mk1
    1'23"764 homeforsummer Mitsubishi EK-Wagon
    1'24"079 homeforsummer Nissan Moco
    1'26"118 homeforsummer Austin Healey Sprite Mk1

    Had some good fun this afternoon doing the laps. Mixed with mild frustration on a few of the cars. I drove the class D cars first, with the most fun being the rear-drive Nissan Elgrand but the Touareg being easily the fastest. I moved onto Class E with the smart kicking things off, and by the end it proved to be the quickest and one of the easiest to put around the circuit. I could tell it was quick as I actually managed to overtake my Touareg ghost car briefly before the exit of turn one. The Sprite felt very slow after that, and the Moco and EK-Wagon closely matched and very nimble. The Mini was a nightmare to get around the circuit, no doubt hindered by it's crossply tyres. It bucked and weaved all over despite being fairly quick, and it took me ten laps to put in one that wasn't either off the pace that I thought it capable of, or black-flagged. In the end, still not as quick as the smart.
     
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  24. Giagua

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    Hi guys! After a long time I'm back

    Class A Ruf Ctr 1'02"335
    Class B Chevrolet Corvette 1'06"137
    Class C De Tomaso Pantera 1'07"843

    If you need some verifaction vid, I will post it.
    Bye
     
  25. wedding racer 2

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    0"51"734 - WR2 - McLaren F1 GTR (Race Car) Enthusia seems to allow a tad more oversteer then you should be able to get away with, and i was on the edge the whole lap. I have a pic if u guys need proof, ive managed to get somewhat close to SPD (fast times there.....)

    1"02"816 - WR2 -Mistubishi Lancer Rally Car ( Rally Car ) Ive been aiming at matching or beating his times, im using DFGT and this car could get another half second out of it if i could remember to brake correctly on the first corner, (which if not done right, will cause understeer)

    1"08"687 - WR2 - Honda Civic Type R Newer model (EP3?) Holy crap!!! this car is fast when your not on the brakes, feels like a good FF should....

    1"07"981 - WR2 - Honda Integra Type R DC2

    0"50"297 - WR2 - Audi R8

    1"06"055 - WR2 - Aston Martin Vanquish

    My god the gears on the AM are to long, another 2 seconds are left in the rest of the car, but i lose to much speed bouncing off the rev limiter then bogging down :(
     
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  26. spd

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    Thanks for posting your times, well done! You took the lead of both rally and race Class R categories and in Class C.

    Please write which version of Audi R8 you used, 2003 or 2004.

    You motivated me for some more playing, I hope others will join as well, since this thread has been dead for quite some time.
     
  27. wedding racer 2

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    the one without the paint i believe.

    1"06"919 - WR2 - Nissan 350Z

    1"05"999 - WR2 - Nissan Silvia Nismo R-Tune

    1"18"517 - WR2 - Mini Cooper 1275

    1"19"766 - WR2 - Smart forTwo Cabrio

    1"12"975 - WR2 - Volkswagen Toureag (sp?)

    1"04"874 - WR2 - Nissan Skyline GTR R34 Nur Spec II

    1"04"165 - WR2 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR

    0"59"703 - WR2 - Caterham RS500 Superlight

    1"02"193 - WR2 - Mclaren SLR

    1"01"984 - WR2 - Ford GT

    0"53"889 - WR2 - Mazda 787B - This thing needs a serious diff, i tried with the proper diff settings i cut it down to almost high 49
     
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    1"11"640 - WR2 - Mini Cooper S

    1"15"773 - WR2 - Abarth 131 Rally - Inside wheelspin like crazy!!

    1"17"718 - WR2 - Toyota Estima Hybrid

    1"09"340 - WR2 - Honda Civic Type R (EK)

    0"53"174 - WR2 - GZOX NSX - Handles alot like the mclaren F1 but less power for not so awesome zero counter drifts...
     
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    only class F left! HEHE
     
  30. spd

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    What about B and F?:confused:
    I will also play some tomorrow :}