Tuning; how much is too much?

[ITCC_Andrew]

So, you're basically making around $2,000/month. I doubt that's anywhere enough to live on your own comfortably and have track car money.

In Dallas, Texas, yes, the prices are much higher. Canadian land taxes, etc., are much less. Anyways, I'd stay in stock class, if I absolutely had to.


Anyways, does anyone have anything more to say to the thread's original topic?

 

[T-Squared]

You really do have zero concept of money don't you?

Don't worry guys, he has is own tuning site for "advanced automotive tuning advice". I'm sure anyone with all this know-how is prepared for the financial problems that will arise!

Race Car Transformation: (v) Preparing an everyday street car, into a fully-built race car, up to the highest specifications available in the class.

While we specialize in building race cars, with years of experience, we can fix daily drivers, too. Of course, if you can win races, you can fix cars; it's a part of racing. Preparing a race car, and preparing a street car, are very similar, after all.

So, clearly, if you want to do anything with your car, from rally, to autocross, or daily driving, we've got the know-how to help you.

The wing on our Impreza wagon project car is looking amazing! Too bad we just need one more part. It means an early morning, to get that part, but it'll be so worth it.
The Impreza will also get a 20% window tint on Monday.
So, in short, after all of that, the Impreza will look nice. Or, at least, nicer.

Located in Ontario, our garage - a veritable "showroom" of everything automotive, with lifts and other essential car-care tools and parts - services anything.

Currently, we're not accepting patrons. We are not prepared, at this time, to open a shop. Please don't inquire about prices, etc., because we can't help you yet.

http://winterstars.weebly.com/index.html

https://www.facebook.com/WinterStarsTuning

I would comment, but I think this speaks for itself.

 

[McLaren]

In Dallas, Texas, yes, the prices are much higher. Canadian land taxes, etc., are much less. Anyways, I'd stay in stock class, if I absolutely had to.

Actually, no, not really. Dallas has some of the cheapest cost of living in the US b/c there's an incredibly large diversity of household incomes & space available. Add in the fact this state has no individual income tax as well.

For what it costs to live in other parts of the US, you could easily live in Dallas for half that. It's a rather popular city for many Californians to move to, despite them unable to cope with our regional climate.

 

[speed junkie]

...while driving on ice is a continual, perpetual battle of 1000s of percent.

How, then, do people run really fast laps? How do people win races?

Tuning secrets, driver training tips, and just plain luck, are the best answers I can give, and I'll cover them, as I learn them.

"Preparing a race car, and preparing a street car, are very similar."
^That's a good one too

 

[Mike Rotch]

💡 You own a truck. That must be a lot of money on petrol. I mean, what else would it be?

Probably something pesky, like paying his own way in life. I mean, who does that.

The amount of good advice you are being given in this thread, and choosing to ignore, is astonishing. Whatever, life kick's everyone's arse in at some point. It's not if but when.

 

[Luminis]

You know, this reminds me of work A LOT!

We get dozens of guys between 18 and 22 that think they're superman, bought some expensive cars and were like "yeah, I can do that!" while they were freeloading off of mommy and daddy. Fast forward a few years and they're heavily in debt, unable to pay for the loans they had to take out to keep financing their high life - which they kept on lifing despite the fact that they, somewhen, had to suddenly support it themselves. And fell flat on their face.

All of a sudden, these guys (and girls) are begging for someone to get them out of their misery, but guess what? No chance Their property is being sold to pay their debts and, in the end, they end up going bunkrupt, forcing them to life a pretty miserable life for the next seven years, until that stuff is settled - not even getting a contract with a phone company in the meantime, as they're deemed to be totally unworthy of any sort of credit. Basically, they've got to pay in advance for everything.

Just make sure to not be one of those guys. It's pitiful to see these morons go from cocky to broke in a matter of months. The worst part, my company is being blamed for their behaviour, which is why stuff like that just ticks me off.

 

[Kent]

Ive not had a single day ofF since oct 29 and hours are 7-7 or 6-6 (7days a week). Thats how I pay for my Sti.
Could you stop with the generalizations and the "Im better than you cause I work for my money crap"? Please, remember there are many of us here who dont feel like seeing the mommy daddy money cracks just because someone else doesnt get the cars they want until later in life.

I suggest back on topic!

 

[Cano]

And, you think that's bad?

This was the best part.

 

[mustangGT90210]

Every two weeks, $600 goes into a savings account, for saving money.


Then, I'm left with approximately $400, with which I can tune, pay my bills, and (in the case of this month,) buy presents. I'm planning to replace the catalytic convertor soon; $800 worth. So, I have to save for a bit. Well, another pay check's worth of time.

Why are you still living at home making 2,000 a month? I'm sure with a room mate you could get out on your own and start living the "real" life. It's what I'm saving up for currently. I'm tired of being at home, and at age 20 I feel like I should be out in the world more.

Anyways on topic! *gasp* If it were me, I'd focus on having a reliable vehicle (or 2 in my case), see how well you can handle those expenses, then look at getting your own place. After settling into that, again recheck your financial situation, and if you've got the extra money to throw around, by all means, build up exactly what you want!

And I'd suggest talking with a financial advisor as well, it's amazing the kind of help they can give you in managing your money so you can fund what you need to, while still saving. I get away with that easily because my dad is a financial advisor

 

[Pupik]

I Just because my monthly bills are only ~$65 in total doesn't mean I can afford big project vehicles. I think you're missing the concept of a dollar and how hard they are to make, save, and use properly. Being 19 or 20 and putting all your money into a project vehicle is a money losing, quality of life degrading proposition.

Build it slowly. The best kind of project is a running, driving, reliable, everyday vehicle. That way you can still have your fun, while getting to work and any other places you need to be. The last thing you want to be doing is tracking your DD, and breaking things you can't fix at a moments notice.

Why are you still living at home making 2,000 a month? I'm sure with a room mate you could get out on your own and start living the "real" life.

These ideas: Follow them.

Figure out your priorities, MrMelancholy. Here's what you need to worry about at your age...

1. Career path
2. Getting out of your parent's house, and living on your own
3. Not doing anything dangerously stupid
4. Having fun
5. Access to reliable transportation
6. Staying somewhat healthy (not quite as important as 1-5, when you're 20-25)
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975. Building a track car.

 

[Dennisch]

These ideas: Follow them.

Figure out your priorities, MrMelancholy. Here's what you need to worry about at your age...

1. Career path
2. Getting out of your parent's house, and living on your own
3. Not doing anything dangerously stupid
4. Having fun
5. Access to reliable transportation
6. Staying somewhat healthy (not quite as important as 1-5 when you're 20)
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975. Building a track car.

Tsss. The priorities are all wrong.

1. Stay with parents.
2. Building a trackcar.

 

[Pupik]

Tsss. The priorities are all wrong.

1. Stay with parents.
2. Building a trackcar.

That was the plan, when I was 12. I figured as long as I got that red Lamborghini Countach by the time I was 19, the parents would let me live at home as long as I needed to.

Otherwise, Crockett and Tubbs would have found me at my pad in Miami Beach.

 

[Cano]

 

[avens]

I don't get why anyone would want to make tuning a car his #1 priority when he has no clue about cars, which in itself means not having enough interest on the subject.

 

[Luminis]

Besides, I would like to point one thing out: Having your own place is friggin' great. It's expensive, but believe me: The freedom do to whatever you want with whomever you want, whenever you want is priceless.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Tsss. The priorities are all wrong.

1. Stay with parents.
2. Building a trackcar.

This. Pupik, you JUST mentioned "1. Career Path." Which part of "Career Path" doesn't involve becoming a mechanic? If you don't read the whole thread, you miss a lot of the thread, and its minute details.


But, "alle besser's wissen," right? I think it means "everyone knows it better."


Anyways, Merry Christmas. This thread serves no purpose, my questions are answered, and the thread has devolved to nothing but "you're wrong. I'm right because I don't have the money to do what you're doing."

 

[Pagey279]

the thread has devolved to nothing but "you're wrong. I'm right because I don't have the money to do what you're doing."

No it hasn't. It's dissolved into "your priorities aren't necessarily wrong, but very misguided". You have received some very valuable advice that you have ignored apparently because you think they are jealous. Listen to it. You will be far better off in the future and it will show you there are MUCH more important things in life to concentrate on, like the ones Pupik listed.

Advice is given for a reason, pay attention to it.

 

[homeforsummer]

and the thread has devolved to nothing but "you're wrong. I'm right because I don't have the money to do what you're doing."

Well that's a load of balls for a start. Plenty of people here have in the past, and currently, had the money to do what you're doing - they're just not dumb enough to put all their eggs in one basket, and on an unsuitable car.

If you can finance all these plans as easily as you say you can, then it makes a whole lot more sense to have a separate car to dick about with, rather than butchering your daily. You claim you want to make a name for yourself but I'm intrigued to know whether you think the rest of the world will see it as anything other than a fruitless pursuit either.

And many here are even able to do so having done all the important life stuff first, like moving out of their parents' house.

 

[Small_Fryz]

You're just hating man... just hating...

Unless you can agree 100% with the OP don't even post here!!! Or the thread will get locked!!!

 

[Dennisch]

You're just hating man... just hating...

Unless you can agree 100% with the OP don't even post here!!! Or the thread will get locked!!!

Couldn't resist to the urge I see...

 

[Ibonibo]

But, "alle besser's wissen," right? I think it means "everyone knows it better."

Back to the german class! It's "Alle wissen es besser" you just said everyone better knows, which is kind of yodaish

Anyways, Merry Christmas. This thread serves no purpose, my questions are answered, and the thread has devolved to nothing but "you're wrong. I'm right because I don't have the money to do what you're doing."

Also didn't know this thread is about you. Title is misleading if it is... Thought it is about tuning, and living in a free country everyone can express their opinion, even if it critizes you, as long as it is civilized, and it is because till now I didn't read here "lol wut, u tuning bs car, get supra noob".

Seriously try to change your attitude, cause you can be the best mechanic, if you're a prick you customers will be nil in numbers. No customers wants to be teachered in that way, or even critized because they proposed or asked something that goes against your ethos

If I go into a garage, and the owner ot even an employee would talk to me like that, I would leave immediatly.

And don't think other people here are poor. Go look in the your car sections, there are cars worth more than a mechanic can make in years...

 

[David]

"you're wrong. I'm right because I don't have the money to do what you're doing."

You caught them. All of them, green with envy over the spending power of a 19 year old mechanic in training. I'm all for you tuning your car however you please, but you are in dire need of a reality check.

 

[Pupik]

This. Pupik, you JUST mentioned "1. Career Path." Which part of "Career Path" doesn't involve becoming a mechanic? If you don't read the whole thread, you miss a lot of the thread, and its minute details.

But, "alle besser's wissen," right? I think it means "everyone knows it better."

Actually it's because you seem to have a habit of starting/entering a thread, with lots of fanfare, song and dance, without doing anything about your situation, and then complaining about the said situation. If you can build your track car with your own hands, your own means, and still pay the bills, then fine...do it! I would too. But be realistic about it; we're not trying to beat you down into a life you don't want to live, but to be aware of the physical limitations (your car is a basic mode of transportation with a wee dollop of "sport") that may hamper the reality which surrounds your expectations. You're entirely permitted to have whatever fun you want with it, so as long as you don't hurt anyone or damage anyone else's machinery.

I'm not trying to be a naysayer; but we've heard it all before from other would-be youngsters with visions of Gran Turismo or that they're "the next World Driving Champion" running their heads...if finances and resources are a strain, then come on back down to earth where the rest of us live everyday, and/or have lived paycheck-to-paycheck and take a few hints from us. Outside of GTPlanet, nobody knows you will have learned those lessons elsewhere...

 

[Kent]

Garbage.
No one with the money to build a track car out of a dd would buy a 2.5. Why would you? Why not buy an sti or wrx?

And regarding priorities...
Get those straight and you'll end up with the money to buy a car thats already tuned... Of course you could ignore this advice but you just be ignoring reality.

Think about it, Im 31 and drove corollas my whole life until I got an awesome job after finishing school. Now I drive a 2011 sti purchased new and already paid off .

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I didn't want a sexually transmitted infection last time, and I still don't. What don't you understand? Are you a little slow? Can't you understand that buying an STi is the worst decision of your life? Depreciation, etc.?


And then, you proceed to take your STi to a random dirt road, and take photos of it? You know, rather than doing something worth while? And then you tell me that I'm illogical?


But, no, it's okay. You "GTPlanet Staff" can keep this whole site a police state, I don't care. I'd rather be banned than have to listen to complaints about a thread I just asked you to close. Good 🤬 night, guys. I'm only coming back to GTPlanet to race. 🤬 McLaren and all of my haters, they're not on my level. They want to live on their own, being a "yes man" to their bosses, for their entire lives, that's fine.


Or you can all grow a pair, and be the change you want in your life, by doing what you want, and not giving a 🤬 about a 19 year old with ambitions.

 

[niky]

I'd oblige you, but sweary rants are only worth ten points. take a chill pill, take some time off and think about what it means to listen to advice from a bunch of guys who've actually been there, done that, and learned the lesson the hard way. Do I regret the $40k I've spent on house construction over the past decade? Not at all. Do I regret the $25k I've spent over the past decade on mods alone? Partly. A lot of what's being said here would help you minimize the regret, so I suggest you read it over.

In the meantime, closed.