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I knew it! Dan Ric will be the F1 Star in a Reasonably Priced Car!

It was a bit obvious though, Clarkson holds Ricciardo in high regards. Like the time when he said that Dan is the best in F1 currently.

This will be good. I think he'll go to the top. I'm calling it. ;)
 
I'm not sure he'll go top, he'll beat Vettel no doubt in a nod to him thrashing Vettel in 2014.
 
Lukewarm episode. I watched it on iPlayer.

Skipped the Huarcan review
skipped SIARPC
Hated the segue into the news
Did not like the improbability of Scriptchard's comeback in the race
Did not like almost all of the 'jokes' in the show.

It's no surprise that the best part of the show was basically anytime it was James May on his own. His drive was both interesting and entertaining. Glad he won.
 
Idk thought it might be a spoiler.


Fair enough, can't wait for it though should be a fun one, also want Alonso to give it a shot.
 
Lukewarm episode. I watched it on iPlayer.

Skipped the Huarcan review - why?
skipped SIARPC - don't blame you but again why?
Hated the segue into the news - what's wrong with squirrels?
Did not like the improbability of Scriptchard's comeback in the race - agreed
Did not like almost all of the 'jokes' in the show. - which ones and why?

It's no surprise that the best part of the show was basically anytime it was James May on his own. His drive was both interesting and entertaining. Glad he won.

See quote.
 
To be honest, I have no idea who the apparent star actually is. He may as well have just been some random guy off the street. I skipped the segment, anyway.
 
Alot of people don't get it, Top Gear today is very satirical making fun of the very thing they are doing, and making it obvious the whole time.
 
Why skip the Huarcan review?

These days they only roadtest one car per week, two if we're lucky. Invariably it is either a grand tourer or a supercar. It's been done to death; dark silhouette, water shots, slow motion, decoloured environmental filter to accentuate the colour of the car and that music signature that goes "woooooarp woooooarp woooooarp". It just doesn't interest me and neither did the car they were reviewing.

Why skip SIARPC?

It's rubbish. Especially when they get flavour of the month singer/actor shilling whatever upcoming release they have.

Why hate the segue into the news?

It was awfully contrived, the three of them standing around pretending that they'd 'accidentally' not left someone manning the chairs and table. I just want some blokes talking about cars, not a pantomime.

Why dislike the jokes?

As above. Contrived, scripted and just not that funny. When the show went from a niche car show to a mass market car-themed entertainment show they lost a lot of spontaneity or at least the ability to reproduce spontaneity.

That, actually is the crux of it. I liked the entertaining car show but the car-themed entertainment show is a scripted mess. Well, it has always been scripted but today it is patently obvious.

I still watch out of habit because once in a while there are still some interesting challenges and segments. Best bits of the last few years, for example, would be the rallycross challenge and the mobility scooter challenge. The Nile special was good, too.

Given the teaser in episode one, I'm quietly anticipating the CCCs. There looked like two, possibly three of them.
 
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The thing that makes it still a great show is the fact whilst they do all this outlandish things, they genuinely know alot about cars themselves and have the ability to tell alot of Car related stories from the past which gives the show plenty of genuine character(something Fifth gear or any car show can't even come close to, Only Chris Harris would be the exception).

Only James May really takes anything seriously but that it self is a trait that is made fun of and works hand in hand with the other two.
 
But really, they've been going on for 22 seasons, spanning over 13yrs, I mean, after a while you're eventually going to run out of new material.

The only reason people pick up on it more for Top Gear over other shows is because we've come to expect more from them. Lets face it, you can only really launch a Reliant Robin into space or stage a race across a city a few times before it gets old.
 
These days they only roadtest one car per week, two if we're lucky. Invariably it is either a grand tourer or a supercar. It's been done to death; dark silhouette, water shots, slow motion, decoloured environmental filter to accentuate the colour of the car and that music signature that goes "woooooarp woooooarp woooooarp". It just doesn't interest me and neither did the car they were reviewing.



It's rubbish. Especially when they get flavour of the month singer/actor shilling whatever upcoming release they have.



It was awfully contrived, the three of them standing around pretending that they'd 'accidentally' not left someone manning the chairs and table. I just want some blokes talking about cars, not a pantomime.



As above. Contrived, scripted and just not that funny. When the show went from a niche car show to a mass market car-themed entertainment show they lost a lot of spontaneity or at least the ability to reproduce spontaneity.

That, actually is the crux of it. I liked the entertaining car show but the car-themed entertainment show is a scripted mess. Well, it has always been scripted but today it is patently obvious.

I still watch out of habit because once in a while there are still some interesting challenges and segments. Best bits of the last few years, for example, would be the rallycross challenge and the mobility scooter challenge. The Nile special was good, too.

Given the teaser in episode one, I'm quietly anticipating the CCCs. There looked like two, possibly three of them.

I'd agree with the SIARPC but for me it depends on who they get on that week.

I can't remember the jokes they told in the show really but a lot of them are blatantly obviously scripted but at the same time can be funny.

I would agree it's now become stupidly scripted in the last 5/6 years but given what else is on TV these days, it's still one of the best shows.

Don't forget that this is only the first episode of the series so next weeks could be even worse or it could be awesome!
 
I'm pretty sure that the review of the Huracan was the same as their review of the Gallardo. Decent car but not exciting enough to be a Lamborghini.
I don't see much difference (In the exterior at least) from the LP560 Gallardo and the Hurucan LP620.
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But really, they've been going on for 22 seasons, spanning over 13yrs, I mean, after a while you're eventually going to run out of new material.
Only if the scriptwriter runs out of imagination.

And: "Tonight! James acts a bit irritated with the rest of us and says 'Oh Cock!'; Richard acts like a yokel and pretends he's got even the first clue about engineering! The Stig does something normal humans do, but he can't because he doesn't understand it because he's an alien or something! And I say something foolish which I then defend with shouting!" is a scriptwriter who has run out of imagination.
The only reason people pick up on it more for Top Gear over other shows is because we've come to expect more from them. Lets face it, you can only really launch a Reliant Robin into space or stage a race across a city a few times before it gets old.
I'm almost entirely sure you could show an hour of launching a Reliant Robin into space every weekend from now until Porsche gets into Gran Turismo and it still wouldn't get old.

And yes, this week's show was crap apart from the Twizy...
 
Only if the scriptwriter runs out of imagination.

And: "Tonight! James acts a bit irritated with the rest of us and says 'Oh Cock!'; Richard acts like a yokel and pretends he's got even the first clue about engineering! The Stig does something normal humans do, but he can't because he doesn't understand it because he's an alien or something! And I say something foolish which I then defend with shouting!" is a scriptwriter who has run out of imagination.
Top Gear of old (2002-2008) has set a pretty high bar for the Top Gear of now (2011-2015), and Top Gear of old didn't have the politically correct world of today where even the slightest of things is an insult to deal with though. For that reason alone, the scriptwriters have their hands and feet tied to their back, and it doesn't help when your broadcaster doesn't exactly trust you.

I'm almost entirely sure you could show an hour of launching a Reliant Robin into space every weekend from now until Porsche gets into Gran Turismo and it still wouldn't get old.

And yes, this week's show was crap apart from the Twizy...
Actually, I'm already over seeing that Reliant Robin being launched into space, and I've only seen it 4 or 5 times.

I'll admit Season 21 was the worst in recent years, but coming off of a spectacular Season 20, it's hard to top that. Consistently. Season 22 has the potential to do it, even if they use the same jokes, as long as they don't over do it. But for the first episode, they really pushed that envelope of what's overdoing it, and what's not.
 
I checked out the 21st season and it still made me laugh, the Ukraine episode and the drive through Chernobyl being the most impressive. Although the formula stays the same it was a good one from the beginning so i don't mind if it get's repetitive sometimes.

Speaking of such anyone know where you can check season 22 episodes? The site i use doesn't have them yet.
 
i liked the episode

But really, it does feel like they're running out of ideas. It's understandable but I mean I'm still a little disappointed. Liked the St. Petersburg race though, even if they did put way too much focus on the Stig (and by that I mean seriously, if you ever do this yet again TG, just cut him out of the race completely and just use more footage of the other three)
 
I found the bits with the Stig entertaining, if predictable.
 
i liked the episode

But really, it does feel like they're running out of ideas. It's understandable but I mean I'm still a little disappointed. Liked the St. Petersburg race though, even if they did put way too much focus on the Stig (and by that I mean seriously, if you ever do this yet again TG, just cut him out of the race completely and just use more footage of the other three)

He's just there for comic relief, I liked seeing people's reaction to him. But yeah it gets old.
 
I thought that, whilst it was a little less extravagant than most recent episodes, it was still a pretty good one, mainly because it wasn't trying to be too extravagant in the first place, which is what TG needs. Sure, they played it safe by recreating an older challenge, but its not like they're redoing something from 2 series ago. It has been a sizeable chunk of time since then and it was still interesting seeing it redone elsewhere. The highlight for me was Hammond getting ticked off at the teal VW van driver pulling out on him.

The Huracan review was pretty standard fare for recent Top Gear, yet sadly fell into that trap of having the presenter give a different opinion on TV than in an earlier DVD review (Hammond loved the Huracan in the Perfect Road Trip 2 and said it was still a Lambo at heart; hypocrisy much?).

SIARPC was meh as it always has been for me, although interestingly nothing seemed to be plugged which was somewhat refreshing.

I did strangely like the squirrel joke, even if it was so completely nonsensical. :p

Overall, a pretty decent start in fairness. Wayyy better than the garbage series 21 opener and looks to get only stronger from here on out.
 
I laughed at the squirrel bit too.
 
Kiefer Sutherland filmed his SIARPC bit today, Jeremy tweeted, 'sorry to disturb you but Jack Bauer has just come in and has already shot Hammond in the knee' :lol:
 
Wow, great watch! Amazing to think that's about as fast as anything's been driven around that track (apart from F1 cars...) Also great to see the whole lap from the in-car cam, and hear the engine. Not that he was in top gear for very long, but didn't it sound like that one gear change-up dropped the rpms a little low? For pure racing where you're not going to get close to 200mph maybe the gear ratios could be adjusted to make it a little faster. Also he miffed the setup for the last corner a bit on that lap, so could have been another tenth off the time there.
 
Wow, great watch! Amazing to think that's about as fast as anything's been driven around that track (apart from F1 cars...) Also great to see the whole lap from the in-car cam, and hear the engine. Not that he was in top gear for very long, but didn't it sound like that one gear change-up dropped the rpms a little low? For pure racing where you're not going to get close to 200mph maybe the gear ratios could be adjusted to make it a little faster. Also he miffed the setup for the last corner a bit on that lap, so could have been another tenth off the time there.

What was the Top car? The Pagani?
 
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