Unpopular Motorsport Opinions

If you guys want to talk politics, take it elsewhere.

 

Imagine if...

... I wonder how that would be perceived?

 

For what it's worth, FIA has since banned t-shirts from the podium:
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/152451/fia-bans-tshirts-from-f1-podium-ceremonies

 

Now away from that...

With manufacturer interest in Formula E being that high, they'll soon or later have pre-qualifying like late 80s/early 90s F1 due to influx of entries.

 

Except GTPlanet does have a open section for this type of discussion: Opinions and Current Events. It's two clicks away, and I recommend discussion of BLM be taken there.

Should AMG Mercedes decide to rebrand themselves as the Lock Up Breonna Taylor's No-Knock Killers Mercedes F1, then it may continue here.

 

Stroll missing a race because of having the ***** is a joke. I think he just didn’t want to race and he seen that as an easy excuse tbh. Waiting until the last minute to tell his bosses was pretty dumb too and makes it look even more suspicious.

 

It sounds like food poisoning. I'm guessing at some point he thought he would be recovered enough, but that didn't happen.

 

Why would he not want to race? This has been his best season so far.

 

Unpopular motorsports opinion: Formula E's reluctance towards racing on traditional circuits is why it will never go beyond the small niche it's created.

 

No, no, I agree. Would much rather watch them at established race tracks. Not those claustrophobic winding street circuits. I get that initially, they were abysmally slow, hence the need for constant corners to keep things kind of interesting. But surely they'd be entertaining enough on the big boy tracks now.

 

I don't think speed was the main factor. Maybe in track design (like that awful but scenic circuit in Uruguay). The series likes to pride itself at bringing the sport to the people. "See; we can still have motorsport without those gosh garn polluting internal combustion engines." But the sport has suffered due to that. But while I don't see more people flocking to the circuit, it would legitimize the series more to the masses. And maybe get them accustomed to electric racing before the world government's force the FIA to cram it down our throat.

 

I was under the impression a big reason for the street circuits was the ability to use public/mass transport to get to and from races instead of hundreds (or even thousands) of cars driving to the middle of nowhere.

 

Why would they race on traditional circuits? That would just emphasise how slow they are. The wider the tracks and the more run offs a circuit has, the slower the cars look.

Especially when they make the tracks slower again by needing makeshift chicanes to charge the batteries anyway.

 

Because they went about racing street circuits wrong. Many circuits just miss the mark. While they nailed it on the head at Rome and Montreal, places like Paris, London, Uruguay just don't work. Like F1, adding 20 corners to a circuit does not make the racing any better. You don't need to go any make a mini Sochi or Valencia, but if you are going to only run street circuits, using parks in particular are not the way to go.

I like the series, and they have the on track action and the money on board in terms of entries and sponsors to be huge, but if they want to reach their potential, they need to do something with the circuits to grow.

 

Their circuits sort of have to be like that. Electric batteries deplete like mad at sustained speed, so they need multiple braking and acceleration zones to try and cover for that. And the cars are only about as fast as a Formula Ford, so the slow short twisty tracks make them look faster than they are. They also use economy car tyres to make them look faster as well due to all the sliding about and low traction making them look more on-edge. If they took the championship to a regular circuit, the batteries would go flat in about 10 laps and people would catch on to the fact they can barely break 100mph. Interest would plummet.

 

They are not fast enough. Putting them on a track that petrol cars race on would just show them up. They need at least 500KW (675 BHP) to deliver that kind of speed. Then they need a fuel source that will deliver that power over a race distance.

 

Speaking of FE circuits, how do they justify the pollution of having to build and dismantle each track, Diverted traffic from closed roads, all the concrete blocks being ferried about and the lorries/construction vehicles. Would not surprise me if WTCR or WRC had lower environmental impact.

 

I think that's more an issue with them designing crap circuits rather than something inherently wrong with street circuits though.

A single transatlantic flight consumes more fuel than all the Formula One cars do across a single season. And that was with the 3L V10's. It's all about perception.

 

Doesn't DHL supply like 6 cargo aircraft for shipping the Formula 1 circus around the world?

 

Shhh, the FIA would prefer if you didn’t ask those questions

 

Oh yeah, they nailed it alright. Try explaining to non car people in an island with a population of roughly 2 million people why you're shutting down the major downtown city streets for a weekend to host a race when there's a proper race circuit not in use 362 days a year, literally minutes away, and actually expect them to not only understand but actually show up. It didn't go down very well, the race was an absolute financial nightmare, and that's why they never came back.

 

Oh, I don’t know if any venue has made money hosting the series, hence the inconsistency of the schedule. But the circuit was really good.

But enhances my argument. These venues are more likely than not unpopular within their respective cities.

 

They also admitted they don’t have nearly the range necessary for a normal race so it’s going to be a 4-5 lap sprint between a handful of cars like RallyX. The FIA is so desperate to hype us up for dead-end electric cars, just like world governments are. It’s like none of them realise no country on this planet has the infrastructure or electrical grid to support majority-electric transport, and that there isn’t enough of the elements needed for the batteries to come even close to supporting that sort of transition. Not to mention how dirty and polluting it would be to scrap and recycle 2 billion petrol cars. The push for electric is going to ruin us, the real future is in alcohol/vegetable oil fuels and hydrogen ICE/hydrogen fuel cell. Alcohol and vegetable oils are sustainable and basically every car on the planet can be converted to run on them, and hydrogen is one of the most abundant elements on the planet and its exhaust from combustion is water.

 

If you passed with those reports then your school sucks. Many national electrical grids are stressed to their limit NOW, what in god’s name makes you think they can handle septuple the load?

Hydrogen fuel cells are more efficient than traditional batteries, and are already in use in multiple cars being sold today. Meanwhile electric batteries are highly toxic and require child slave labour in Africa and China to be mined.

Yes, eventually as they reach the end of their lifespan as reliable transport they’ll be taken off the road and scrapped/recycled. It’s a gradual thing. The mass-replacement of them with electric cars isn’t going to be like that. Multiple countries have stated they plan to outright ban ICE vehicles by 2030. Ten years. It won’t be a few hundred/few thousand cars a year getting scrapped, it’ll be every single ICE car in the country being made illegal overnight and will require massive amounts of time and space to sideline them for processing.

I notice you skimmed over hydrogen ICE conversions, by the way.

 

As far as i know, no country has made any of this law as yet. They are only targets to aim for or goals if you like. Somewhere like Norway already sells almost as many electric and hybrids as it does pure ICE vehicles. By 2030, which is the earliest you can expect any country-wide bans (a lot of this proposed legislation concerns only major/capital cities for now), the proportion of new ICE vehicles manufacturers will have available will be minuscule. There will be no mass-scraping of ICE vehicles, they'll just naturally phase out over their regular useable lifespan as more and more buyers see the benefits of non-ICE. By that time battery power, and whatever non-fossil fueled ICE technology is favoured will be much more efficient than it currently is.

 

The actual chap in charge (i.e. not someone at the FiA) in a public press conference on ETCR

"We want high-performance cars with big wheels and plenty of power, to be good looking and – we hope – driven by the best touring car drivers. We want to promote the performance of electromobility."

"We are not trying to save the planet."

I mean, you may not have noticed, but electric cars do seem to go like **** off a shovel. Why not race them?

 

Not sure if it's unpopular, but I'm fully convinced the best F1 drivers on the grid in order are: Verstappen, Hamilton and Ricciardo.

I also think if all where in the same team they are close enough in ability to make a championship battle last to the last round.