*UPDATE* Troops blow up LM002 and 550

[3-Wheel Drive]

What's this about a 550 destroyed, too?

It's my all-time favorite Ferrari, too

 

[Joey D]

What's this about a 550 destroyed, too?

It's my all-time favorite Ferrari, too

The Iraqi's got tired of bombing the troops and some how thought the Italians came to invade their country as well...so they blew it up.

 

[3-Wheel Drive]

Wait, there's got be something around here that...

Ah, this'll work:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


[shakehead]The innocent (cars) just shouldn't have to pay for the war.
It just ain't right.[/shakehead]

 

[///M-Spec]

Over 655,000 Iraqis and more than three thousand Coalition servicemen and women have lost their lives since 2003 due to the war.

And you guys are acting like the world is ending because a couple of cars got blown up.




Nice thread.


M

 

[Joey D]

They lost their lives due to an occupational hazard. We don't get all heartbroken when a steel worker loses his life or when a road worker gets hit by a car, why is it that we do when troops die? They knew what they were getting into when they signed up for the military.

If I sound anti-troop, I'm not, I'm just sick of people whining about it. They are employees just like everyone else. Yes it's bad when they die, yes they are dying in a messed up war, but like I said we don't even care about the people who die doing their jobs on a yearly bases...heck we don't even hear about them.

We are complaining about the cars because that is the subject of this thread, and the troops are part of it because they are wasting time, money, and weaponry on stupid things.

 

[Omnis]

They lost their lives due to an occupational hazard. We don't get all heartbroken when a steel worker loses his life or when a road worker gets hit by a car, why is it that we do when troops die? They knew what they were getting into when they signed up for the military.

If I sound anti-troop, I'm not, I'm just sick of people whining about it. They are employees just like everyone else. Yes it's bad when they die, yes they are dying in a messed up war, but like I said we don't even care about the people who die doing their jobs on a yearly bases...heck we don't even hear about them.

We are complaining about the cars because that is the subject of this thread, and the troops are part of it because they are wasting time, money, and weaponry on stupid things.

The difference is that soldiers are working and fighting for our country; for us, so that we don't have to. Steel workers are working for a firm.

 

[Joey D]

They are still an employee of an organization. They aren't volunteering for anything, they are employed as professional warriors, that's what they do and a hazard of the job is they might die.

The thing I feel sad for is the civilians that died during the war for one reason or another. They are victims.


Anyways with that said, lets stay on the topic of cars getting blown up and not have this turn into a I hate/ I love the military flame fest.

 

[3-Wheel Drive]

Over 655,000 Iraqis and more than three thousand Coalition servicemen and women have lost their lives since 2003 due to the war.

And you guys are acting like the world is ending because a couple of cars got blown up.




Nice thread.


M

We are discussing just the cars, because, the subject is the cars. The loss of human life is very tragic, you can't really debate that. But relatively no one cares when rare and beautiful works of engineering are lost forever just because someone had some extra bombs lying around.

 

[Danny]

It's an easy mistake to make. It's not as if the cars had American flags on them.

 

[eg6_dude]

Over 655,000 Iraqis and more than three thousand Coalition servicemen and women have lost their lives since 2003 due to the war.

And you guys are acting like the world is ending because a couple of cars got blown up.




Nice thread.


M

I couldn't have put it better myself! Who cares about the cars!

 

[Joey D]

Obviously a lot of us considering we are having a discussion about them in this thread. The troops should have auctioned off the LM002 and donated the money to a charity that helps families who have lost someone or given the money to a charity that helps poor Iraqis.

 

[JCE]

The problem is that you still fail to grasp that practicality is not subjective because it is a measurable trait. Therefore, it is essentially a fact more than it is an opinion.
In addition, whether you care whether it is more practical or not is irrelevant because it is STILL MORE PRACTICAL THAN THE COUNTACH BY PURE STATISTICAL FACT.

Again, I must insist that it is. What is practical to me is not practical to you or anyone else. So using any "statistics" on your behalf is stating YOUR definition of practicality. I do think the Countach isn't practical as a daily driver--but to me neither is the LM002. Either vehicle doesn't suit my personal preference as practical. I'm just trying to get you to understand my point--which you will no doubt disagree with.

Whether you use the expanded practicality is also irrelevant because the LM002 is still more practical.
In addition, you have given no alternate (and undoubtedly incorrect) definition of the term for which to base your opinion that the LM002 is not infinitely more practical.

In YOUR eyes it is more practical. I feel it isn't any more practical than the Countach.

All you have talked about is how it would be a more satisfactory drive, or how it is worth more or looks better. Not one of your rebuttals to my point on its practicality has anything to do with practicality, leading me to believe that you don't actually know what it is. In addition, you have countered the fact that it is more practical with opinions that are completely irrelavent to the discussion.

Your not providing any relevant rebuttals to my point either--you are just restating your opinion So, lets just agree to disagree before we start cussing at each other.

 

[Solid Fro]

Over 655,000 Iraqis and more than three thousand Coalition servicemen and women have lost their lives since 2003 due to the war.

And you guys are acting like the world is ending because a couple of cars got blown up.




Nice thread.


M

Just for the record. The UN states that about 35,000 Iraqis have died from 2003 to 2006, not 650,000. That number is totally ridiculous and has been reported incorrectly without correction.

I wish Saddam, Uday, and Qusay were inside the 550 when they blew it up.

 

[McLaren]

Just for the record. The UN states that about 35,000 Iraqis have died from 2003 to 2006, not 650,000. That number is totally ridiculous and has been reported incorrectly without correction.

I wish Saddam, Uday, and Qusay were inside the 550 when they blew it up.

Well, that one site (IraiBodyCount.com) claims 59,000-63,000.
But then again, they used to make it appear that every death was an American fault, not the fact that most Iraqis are killed by suicide bombers more than Americans which is why when M noted 655,000 I didn't say anything because I'd bet half of those deaths (if that number) were from their screwed up neighbors deciding to be suicide bombers who end up killing 10-30 people.

 

[///M-Spec]

They lost their lives due to an occupational hazard. We don't get all heartbroken when a steel worker loses his life or when a road worker gets hit by a car, why is it that we do when troops die? They knew what they were getting into when they signed up for the military.

If I sound anti-troop, I'm not, I'm just sick of people whining about it. They are employees just like everyone else. Yes it's bad when they die, yes they are dying in a messed up war, but like I said we don't even care about the people who die doing their jobs on a yearly bases...heck we don't even hear about them.

"We"? I think you should speak for yourself. If you don't value human life, that's up to you. Don't think that applies for everyone else here.

As for all the whining, it appears you are doing more than your share of it.

We are complaining about the cars because that is the subject of this thread, and the troops are part of it because they are wasting time, money, and weaponry on stupid things.

According to the article you posted a link to, the Lambo was used to simulate the effects of a V-IED during a test of a construction barrier.

Yeah, real stupid waste of time and money, trying to protect people's lives by validating defenses

We are discussing just the cars, because, the subject is the cars. The loss of human life is very tragic, you can't really debate that. But relatively no one cares when rare and beautiful works of engineering are lost forever just because someone had some extra bombs lying around.

I have no problem with the informational content of the original post. It is automobile related and this is an automobile forum. Two rare and interesting cars are destroyed. That's too bad.

But these 'casualties' are exceeding minor in a conflict that has cost the lives of many, many people --any one of which is worth more than a mere hunk of metal, plastic, rubber and glass. I find the lack of perspective shown by many of the posts in this thread more than a little malapropos, mostly BlazinXtreme's.

Just for the record. The UN states that about 35,000 Iraqis have died from 2003 to 2006, not 650,000. That number is totally ridiculous and has been reported incorrectly without correction.

According to this report by the BBC, 36,000 Iraqis have lost their lives in JUST 2006. I think you'd better check your sources.

The Lancet figure is open to debate, but I'm not interested in going 12 rounds here over the numbers. If you really want to, take it to the Opinions thread, there is already a thread about the report. My only point was to show that a lot of people have died.


M

 

[Joey D]

You know what, scratch that reply, arguing this is getting us no where. This thread is off topic now and needs to be closed down.