Veyron - Super Fast?

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Which would you buy, given 1.5 mil?

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Toronado

If Bugatti and VAG were to go out of business right now, would the Veyron be considered the same fate as the V16T (as you so eloquently put it: A "Concept car")? That was the question. And until 65 come off the line (which I doubt has happened already), it still isn't a production car.
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Good point. Very good chance of VAG going out of business now too. :rolleyes:
 
Toronado
Not quite. My point is that until the 65th Veyron comes off the line, it is in the exact same boat as the Cizeta was by your definition.
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You mean my tongue-in-cheek definition from two months ago in a different thread?
 
Hey!

I don't want to bring up old stuff, but I stumbled over some actually measured figures of the Veyron in the AutoBild Sportscars that arrived today. They were measured by Autobild at Ehra-Lessien, the car was piloted by a guy named Volker, who also wrote the software for the Veyrons DSG.

The figures:
0-100 kph (0-62 mph) = 2.84 secs
0-160 kph (0-100 mph) = 5.5 secs
160-0 kph (100-0 mph) = 4.2 secs

The driver added that he has done the 0-62 mph run in 2.4 secs before, under ideal conditions.

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the Interceptor
 
Veyron stat of the day:

The Veyron is worth $1.8 million. Therefore it's a $1.8 million insurance liability on the roads. The first Bugatti Veyron was sold to a man in the Denver, Colorado area. When this occurred, every insured driver in Denver saw his insurance rates increase by about a thousandth of a penny.

In short: a man bought a car, and everyone's insurance rates went up. Does anyone else need any further proof that this is the best car ever?

EDIT: some people have claimed that I made this statistic up. I remain tight-lipped about my sources.
 
Toronado
Holy topic bump Batman!
Though, I still wonder about the insuracen thing talked about in that other thread.
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Same. The most recent update on WreckedExotics has a shot of a Carrera GT with rear bumper damage and a description stating that someone rear-ended it at a light. Maybe we should ask that person.

And I really wouldn't be surprised if my possibly made up statistic is true - $1.8 million of car on the road has to generate an increase in insurance prices, regardless of how small. It's got to be covered in case it's hit.

I don't think the guy who owns it has it insured (based on the fact that he drives it around without plates) so maybe the rise never happened, but it's theoretically possible.
 
daan
Ask that skint fellow. He'll make you up a source.
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Can you consider the Hennessy 1000 a production car? If so I would have to say it should have been included as well because, They claim that its top speed is 255 mph.
 
Thatman
Can you consider the Hennessy 1000 a production car? If so I would have to say it should have been included as well because, They claim that its top speed is 255 mph.
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Of course it's not a production car, considering that it's modified... post-production.
 
Ok I haven't read much of this thread but Im thinking in the poll more Europeans will go for the Veyron and more USA people will go for the Saleen......

General statement which may not be true but in general it seems countries stick to (like the style of) their cars.....

Robin
 
Well, surprisingly no one has actually bothered to mention WHY the Saleen S7R makes less downforce than the street versions: ACO/FIA Mandated Flat Undertray.

The S7's undertray is classic GTP stuff with deep ground effect venturi tunnels, reminiscent actually of the XJ220. The major sports car sanctions of the world have long banned ground effects and mandate flat floors for all GT cars, thus the S7R doesn't have the added bonus of its production brother's tunnels.

Quite honestly, the S7 Twin Turbo is quite an impressive car, and my own stylist's eye says that it follows the classic styling maxim of "Longer, Lower, Wider" to a tee. Much more aesthetically pleasing than the bizzarely curvelinear Veyron.

Is the Veyron not as impressive as the Saleen? No. It to is ridiculously fast, and I do admire the unbridled decadence that the designers were allowed to build into the car (honestly, a diamond in the dashboard is just pure hedonism).

I'm a racer, and I probably wouldn't be spending 1.5million on a road car that wasn't a classic (1.5million would buy me a Bizzarini 5300GT Strada I'm sure), but given my own choice I'd choose the Saleen only because I prefer its styling, prefer its gearbox, and prefer its layout. Because I go to the track and campaign an ACTUAL RACE CAR, I'm not going to fret over a tenth of a second, performance wise, here or there compared to the car I don't like.
 
Both are impressive cars, as you said. They're just very different machines. I liken the choice to someone deciding between a Caterham or an Impreza, both are very fast, but the Impreza is far more comfortable whle it does it, it's not as track capable as the Caterham but on the track it can still perform admirably. To me, that is the S7TT v Veyron argument scaled down. If you want a focused track car only, you won't want the Veyron. If you like the idea of a car that's as refined as an Aston Martin but faster than any other production car out there, then you won't want the S7TT. I didn't go into cost, because the people that buy these cars can generally afford it without worrying.
 
Poverty's "Auto, Motor & Sport" article was also filmed for "Auto, Motor & Sport TV".

Here is the URL for part 1 and 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x23xNiJPLk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hy7LZWnCUI

It's in german though and and I doubt anyone can receive DEUTSCHE WELLE (the german equivalent of "Voice of America") for the englisch version.

- The test track in Ehra-Lessien was chosen because it is the perfect place for such an event. The track has a more than 5 miles long flat straight.

- All driving aids were disabled.

- GPS equipment was used for "ultra accurate measuring" (part 1 of the video).

BTW, Auto, Motor & Sport has nothing to do with Volkswagen.
 
If you truely want my opinion. I would buy neither. The Bugatti is a over engineered car that is a profit loosing car. The Saleen S7 is boring and dull. If I had 1.5 million to spend I would buy a new house and buy a Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder and Muricelago LP640.
 
speedster502
If you truely want my opinion. I would buy neither. The Bugatti is a over engineered car that is a profit loosing car.
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Over-engineered and ... profit losing? Those are your reasons for not wanting it??

The Saleen S7 is boring and dull.
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I... I...

If I had 1.5 million to spend I would buy a new house and buy a Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder and Muricelago LP640.
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...I have no words for you.
 
speedster502
If you truely want my opinion. I would buy neither. The Bugatti is a over engineered car that is a profit loosing car. The Saleen S7 is boring and dull. If I had 1.5 million to spend I would buy a new house and buy a Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder and Muricelago LP640.
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If I had 1.5 million to spend and only 1.5 million to spend, Id be careful not to make a lavish purchase that would wipe that out. I'd rather be sorted for life. That is not the question, the question is which would you buy, given 1.5 million. I'd have to be significantly richer than that to justify buying either. But given that I had enough money to not have to worry about that, I'd buy the Veyron as previousely stated. I think I'm on the same wave lenth as M5Power when I just look at what you said in a that's odd kind of way regarding the first two points he quoted.
 
Yeah. If I was to buy a veyron, I would need at least 2 mllion dollars to spend on cars only. I would have to say that price does not matter much after the $250,000 mark. If you can afford one car above this, you can afford them all.

The thing with the Veyron is that it is super fast and super luxurious. That interior can probably rival the highest quality cars from Mercedes. It is designed to pamper you on trips yet still be capable for going fast. I'm sure the S7TT is nearly unstreetable.
 
actually I saw a vid months ago, where some guys drove S7 TT on the road. the acceleration, driveability and noise were nice.. but the brakes were so lousy that they almost rearended someone in the lights. I guess that they need to be around their operating temperature before they work well.
 
RouWa
... It's in german though and and I doubt anyone can receive DEUTSCHE WELLE (the german equivalent of "Voice of America") for the englisch version. ...
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I do!

But no, I don't have the English version...
 

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