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Wanted to tune up a KPGC110 to drive something interesting for the GTR event and it turns out that thing makes for a bit of a monster.

Ended up at 650pp on Racing Hards and it pulls 743hp on a 889kg body.
I usually run a fair bit under the pp limits anyway but at 50pp below limit it still certainly outperforms itself.

And it spits flames!

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RCKakashi14
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Right at the start my car changes down a gear into 4th!

I am using manual gears, so as soon as I pass the start line the car changes down from 5th to 4th and I have to try and change back up as fast as possible, sometimes I get it bang on and other times I don't which ruins the timed section, what am I doing wrong?
 
A1an
Right at the start my car changes down a gear into 4th!

I am using manual gears, so as soon as I pass the start line the car changes down from 5th to 4th and I have to try and change back up as fast as possible, sometimes I get it bang on and other times I don't which ruins the timed section, what am I doing wrong?
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That's odd. As seen in the video, no such changes happen. Were you using a controller, like a shift down button jammed or something?

If it's a wheel, then maybe one of the paddle shifters need fixing.
 
Greycap
The thing is, as he's said himself, tunes aren't a magic bullet and surely enough there's no magic in that setup from what I can see. Nothing out of the ordinary, no minuscule adjustments like tenths of camber or hundredths of toe, just a well made setup to adjust the handling to a personal driving style. And I can already tell it wouldn't suit mine which underlines what the few of us have been saying for a while now, there isn't a setup that works perfectly for everyone. Much less on every track or even everywhere on a single track, it's always a compromise.
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And might I add, tuning is also a constant deed of fixing. There will always be something off then adjust as needed, then another... it's an endless cycle.


I don't mind sharing tunes, but I waive responsibility should there be any... catastrophe that takes place. Like a nuclear explosion, perhaps. :lol:
 
Started with the WTC which I've won a few years back but have recent difficulty whenever it appears in the weeklies. Thought I'd go with my 787B with a no-stopper. That was a mistake. With high FM I was a bit off pace from Kawakami and his NISMO. It took me to lap 9 to overtake him and hold on for a bit under a second gap at the finish.
GTR race was in a car I used the last time we had this race, Unisia JECS R32. Easy win.
Special TT was not my thing and not gonna bother for Gold. Silver was good enough.
Interlagos was in the C5 I last won this. 735pp with a 35 second win.
I picked a car I haven't used in awhile for Alsace. One of my Swifts. Just a bit over the suggested pp so it was fun for awhile. Won by 11 seconds.
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Greycap
The thing is, as he's said himself, tunes aren't a magic bullet and surely enough there's no magic in that setup from what I can see. Nothing out of the ordinary, no minuscule adjustments like tenths of camber or hundredths of toe, just a well made setup to adjust the handling to a personal driving style. And I can already tell it wouldn't suit mine which underlines what the few of us have been saying for a while now, there isn't a setup that works perfectly for everyone. Much less on every track or even everywhere on a single track, it's always a compromise.
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I agree 100% with you ,but the case wasn't about the tune .
It's about @RCKakashi14 who says :
Tune is top secret
Tune is highly confidential etc.etc
Lately that change ( a bit ) and since Audi DTM is one of his favourite " mules " ,was really a surprise.
And since world remains the same and nothing changed dramatically,only one explanation remains.

@RCKakashi14 fall in love and see the world with a different eye 😂
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Not my favourite selection of events this week, but there were some enjoyable moments, none the less. All completed on hard difficulty at the first attempt, with the exception of the special event.
Japanese FF Challenge 450: Mitsubishi FTO - Stock, plus a little ballast, to get under the PP limit. Pretty uneventful, except for the turn over the brow!
American Clubman Cup 700: Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am - LS9 engine swap, full race upgrades, RM tyres. Once I recalibrated my right foot to ‘ultra sensitive’, this was great fun to drive, and an easy win.
Mazda Spirit Racing 12R Special Event: The middle section took a while to unlock, but Gold was achieved.
Nissan GT-R Cup: Nissan R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nur ‘02 - Full Race spec, SS Tyres. Not being a Tokyo regular, I expected to struggle with this event, but I needn’t have worried. With the gearbox tweaked for the loooong straight, I was able reach P1 by L2 T1.
World Touring Car 900: Mazda LM55 - detuned, RH tyres. While I’m slowly learning to appreciate Trial Mountain, this was about getting the job done. FM3 and 1 stop ensured an easy win.
 
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Japanese FF Challenge - Civic Type-R (FK8) 🔰

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American Clubman Cup - C7 Gr 3 Road Car w/Rampage swap 🔰

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12R Time Trial - ✅️
Took a good chunk of attempts to get gold

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GT-R Cup - Mine's R34 🔰

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WTC900 - Ferrari VGT 🚫
Really wanted to use the P1 GTR, but it's just not good enough for fuel once the Hybrid runs out, best I could get is 4th on Easy

Got 10k from 4⭐️ Daily.
 
I went with a stock Garage RCR Civic for the American Clubman Cup 700 race. Such a fun car to drive. Getting to front is doable, but doing it clean is the bigger challenge. Some very aggressive AI divebombs in this one.



A1an
Right at the start my car changes down a gear into 4th!

I am using manual gears, so as soon as I pass the start line the car changes down from 5th to 4th and I have to try and change back up as fast as possible, sometimes I get it bang on and other times I don't which ruins the timed section, what am I doing wrong?
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This has happened to me on multiple occasions. It's even more difficult when you have the HUD off as the beep sound when you cross the start line is muted as well so you are always unsure when to time the gear change correctly.

Its a glitch in the game. The only resolution I have found is to exit the race completely and re-enter. Or restart the game entirely. It doesn't correct the starting gear selection all the time but every now and then it works.
 
Is there anything 'interesting' you can use to win the WTC900 events? There's a ton of road cars that can be tuned up to beat WTC800 but I've yet to find anything that can compete in the 900s.

Seems more or less like you use a Gr.2 or tune down and that's about all the options that are open to you. I had a go with a tuned up 992 GT3 but it has no chance.

Finished it off with the TS020, nothing special but a fun car to drive regardless. It's a very easy win on Trial Mountain in equal machinery, the AI are hopeless here.
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Nebuc72
Is there anything 'interesting' you can use to win the WTC900 events? There's a ton of road cars that can be tuned up to beat WTC800 but I've yet to find anything that can compete in the 900s.

Seems more or less like you use a Gr.2 or tune down and that's about all the options that are open to you. I had a go with a tuned up 992 GT3 but it has no chance.
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Valkyrie is about the only road car that can do it although one exception I found was the 812 Superfast can win at Le Mans if it's fully tuned on RH. Otherwise the '08 GT500 cars are a real challenge if not almost impossible for some races given how much slower they are if you use them at stock power.
 
Nebuc72
Is there anything 'interesting' you can use to win the WTC900 events? There's a ton of road cars that can be tuned up to beat WTC800 but I've yet to find anything that can compete in the 900s.

Seems more or less like you use a Gr.2 or tune down and that's about all the options that are open to you. I had a go with a tuned up 992 GT3 but it has no chance.

Finished it off with the TS020, nothing special but a fun car to drive regardless. It's a very easy win on Trial Mountain in equal machinery, the AI are hopeless here.
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Well, you have to contend with cars with exceptionally high downforce so even the slow AI will have an edge should you use a lower class car.

Will always be an issue if PD sticks to the "chase-the-rabbit" style.
 
Nebuc72
Is there anything 'interesting' you can use to win the WTC900 events? There's a ton of road cars that can be tuned up to beat WTC800 but I've yet to find anything that can compete in the 900s.

Seems more or less like you use a Gr.2 or tune down and that's about all the options that are open to you. I had a go with a tuned up 992 GT3 but it has no chance.

Finished it off with the TS020, nothing special but a fun car to drive regardless. It's a very easy win on Trial Mountain in equal machinery, the AI are hopeless here.
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Try the MP4/4 '88
 
jad_morffier
I went with a stock Garage RCR Civic for the American Clubman Cup 700 race. Such a fun car to drive. Getting to front is doable, but doing it clean is the bigger challenge. Some very aggressive AI divebombs in this one.




This has happened to me on multiple occasions. It's even more difficult when you have the HUD off as the beep sound when you cross the start line is muted as well so you are always unsure when to time the gear change correctly.

Its a glitch in the game. The only resolution I have found is to exit the race completely and re-enter. Or restart the game entirely. It doesn't correct the starting gear selection all the time but every now and then it works.
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Thank you, glad it wasn't just me, it's a weird glitch.
Nebuc72
Is there anything 'interesting' you can use to win the WTC900 events? There's a ton of road cars that can be tuned up to beat WTC800 but I've yet to find anything that can compete in the 900s.

Seems more or less like you use a Gr.2 or tune down and that's about all the options that are open to you. I had a go with a tuned up 992 GT3 but it has no chance.

Finished it off with the TS020, nothing special but a fun car to drive regardless. It's a very easy win on Trial Mountain in equal machinery, the AI are hopeless here.
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The issue is to be competitive it needs to be a racing car or have a racing engine swap for the fuel, there are the F1 type cars which you can down-tune or the GR1 old Group C cars.

I don't know what the Chaparral 2J '70 can be tuned up to, I have mine at 800pp so it will go above that but not near 900pp and the same for the Mercedes-Benz W 196 R '55 is also a good car at 800pp and again I think it may be able to be tuned a little over 800pp but that is all, you could use the Renault Espace F1 or the Magane Trophy with the Espace F1 engine swap which will give power to compete and also the fuel range.

The Zonda R is great and had the power but it's fuel is really poor, and I don't think there is anything in the Legends that is powerful enough, the only other option is some of the VGT's depending on how good they are on fuel.

I know this is going off topic, but the only other way to get anything in the 900pp+ range would be some Can-Am cars to go with the Chaparral 2J '70, some of the Lola's, McLaren M8 and other Group 7 cars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_7_(motorsport)

The Shadow cars would be a great addition to GT7 imo :D

 
Nebuc72
Yeah stuff like that makes for an easy win so I don't usually like to detune them for an event, they're fun drives but more interesting to use in the Gr.1 events etc.

It's fun to tune up something but WTC900 isn't super open to that as an option.
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I forgot to mention try it stock with ABS off and no changes to Fuel Mixture or tires. That should make it more interesting.
 
Nebuc72
Is there anything 'interesting' you can use to win the WTC900 events? There's a ton of road cars that can be tuned up to beat WTC800 but I've yet to find anything that can compete in the 900s.

Seems more or less like you use a Gr.2 or tune down and that's about all the options that are open to you. I had a go with a tuned up 992 GT3 but it has no chance.

Finished it off with the TS020, nothing special but a fun car to drive regardless. It's a very easy win on Trial Mountain in equal machinery, the AI are hopeless here.
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I had the exact same thought process as you this week!

I came to the conclusion that anything up to Gr.3 can be challenged by tuned up road cars. It seems that the Gr.2 levels of power/turbo and downforce/handling are out of the scope in the way that GT7 is currently built.

A randomiser gave me the 2002 RX7, so I thought that with the 787B engine swap there would be some hope. I found a tune online and accustomed myself to the handing, but the GT500s just make up too much time on the twisty sections. Fuel wasn't a problem (in fact it was a stellar performer in that regard), but the tyre degredation was MURDER, even after adjusting the settings to try to mitigate it.

I ended up spinning the wheel again and I got the Merc CLK-LM, so I took that and ran with it.
 
Did a bit of testing this afternoon with the Audi RS 5 Turbo at Trial Mountain. That's not been too serious, I simply tried to compare three different race strategies.
Above all :

This car is insane ... and the track is insane too ! :bowdown:

The common thing for any run was FM 1 all the way ... no fiddling with the fuel map !

1 Now the first thing I tried was @RCKakashi14 's posted version. The car's equipped with the mid range turbo, running 6 or 7 laps along with intense short shifting on RM tires, pits for fuel and RS tires for the final three or four laps. My driving didn't allow me to run seven laps but I think it's not too much of a difference as the soft compound did these four laps without any problems.
What I found difficult but that's just me was to permanently concentrate on short shifting / fuel saving ... and that's why I got to the next strategy.

2 The simple one ! For the lazy driver ! I put in the high range turbo, sacrificed the possibility to run RS tires and decided to run two equal 5 lap stints on the medium compound. The idea was that this whole lot of traffic at the end of the race ( lapping cars that don't know how to let you pass ) eliminates most of the benefit of RS tires. As long as you try to race cleanly at least cos you have to slow down anyway.

3 Now this is the no stop run. As mentioned above by @jrbabbitt . High range turbo, FM 6, RH tires and go go go ... ok FM 1 has changed to FM 6 but still ... no fiddling with the fuel map !

Well what I found was, all three strategies are winners ( it's the car of course ) - at any difficulty level. The fastest version imo is No. 2, followed by No. 1 and No. 3 on P3. The seconds gained by staying out of the pits couldn't quite balance the higher lap times but again that's just me.

( Edit ) just to give you a rough idea :

S. 1 ... + 5 sec ... S. 2 ... + 10 sec ... S. 3

My final comment :

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It's super fast but it doesn't spit fire ! :cheers:
 
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ROCKET JOE
What I found difficult but that's just me was to permanently concentrate on short shifting / fuel saving ... and that's why I got to the next strategy.
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You'll get used to it.

That's what I do on EVERY race that involves fuel consumption and tire wear. Fuel Map 1, short shift, lift and coast that I learned from Scuderia Ferrari strategists. :lol:

And now the beans have been spilled...



...it's up to the player how one utilizes it. 😈

And of course, the cars.

But for those... still remains confidential. :lol:
 
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Tokyo 600 was my grind of choice for the big 3 grind races so I'm very familiar with this track. For the GT-R Cup race I chose a stock R34 GT-R Z-tune '05.

Smooth and minimal turning of the wheel is the trick for this track to maintain speed. Timing your overtakes is also very important but the old AI is very predictable so after a few attempts you can script your own path to victory.

 

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