What are the chances of seeing the GT6 premium's in GT7?

[grandtourismo]

There are so many premium model cars missing from the GT7 car list that were in GT6 like the C63 AMG etc, is it likely that they'll return in updates do you think?

 

[MIE1992]

I think at least some will return, like the Mazda RX-7 FD '91, the Mazda Autozam AZ-1, and the Mazda RX-8 Type S '07, but I could see some being replaced, like the older Nissan GT-R (R35) Nismo, and how we have a slightly more recent version of it.

 

[grandtourismo]

I think at least some will return, like the Mazda RX-7 FD '91, the Mazda Autozam AZ-1, and the Mazda RX-8 Type S '07, but I could see some being replaced, like the older Nissan GT-R (R35) Nismo, and how we have a slightly more recent version of it.

those are some great choices to return, i'd like to add the CR-Z

 

[Nielsen]

The chance of seeing some of them is quite high I would say. Significant cars are still left behind, such as BMW 507, Corvette (C5), Ferrari FXX, Ferrari 599 Fiorano, Honda Integra Type R (DC5), Lexus LFA, Mazda Roadster (NC), Subaru Impreza WRX STi, etc.

 

[Imari]

There are so many premium model cars missing from the GT7 car list that were in GT6 like the C63 AMG etc, is it likely that they'll return in updates do you think?

Will the 3D models simply be imported into GT7 without modification? Almost certainly not. Despite Polyphony's ******** about future proofing, the 3D models were never future proof.
Will those cars make their way back into the game with proper PS5 quality 3D models? Probably for a lot of them. They were included in the game in the first place because they were popular and relevant cars, and they're likely near the top of the list to get included in a new Gran Turismo game.

 

[MIE1992]

those are some great choices to return, i'd like to add the CR-Z

I'd add both the base CR-Z, but also the one that was tuned by Spoon.

I also really want to see the older two iterations of the R35 GT-R return, too, specifically the Spec V and the Black Edition.

 

[RetroJohan]

I wrote this post from the News and Discussion thread, might as well post it here too.

For those who are interested, these are the premium cars in GT6 that aren't in GT7......yet😏

I didn't add the Racecar "Base model", Chrome Line, Stealth Model, and the 15th-anniversary Edition versions

Spoiler

AEM S2000

Abarth Grande Punto '09

Acura NSX '91
Acura NSX '13
Acura NSX LM Race Car '91

Alfa Romeo 147 Ti 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06
Alfa Romeo Brera Sky Window 3.2 JTS Q4 '06
Alfa Romeo TZ3

Art Morrison Corvette '60

Aston Martin DB9
Aston Martin V12 Vantage '10

Audi R10 TDI '06
Audi R18 TDI Prototype '11
Audi R8 5.2 FSI R tronic '07
Audi R8 LMS - Team Oreca '10
Audi R8 LMS ultra '12
Audi R8 LMS ultra (Audi Sport Team Phoenix) '12
Audi RS6 Avant '08
Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro '07

Autobacs ARTA Garaiya '08

Ayrton Senna DAP Racing Kart #17 '80
Ayrton Senna LOTUS 97T '85
Ayrton Senna West Surrey Racing, 1983 Ayrton Senna

Blitz DUNLOP ER34 Skyline '07

BMW 135i Coupé '07
BMW 507 '57
BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07
BMW Z4 '03
BMW Z4 M Coupe '08

Bentley Speed 8 '03

Cadillac CTS-V Coupe '11

Chevrolet 2010 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 AMP Energy/ National Guard CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Jeff Gordon #24 DuPont CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot/Old Spice CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 AMP Energy/ NG CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2013 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 National Guard CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Tony Stewart #14 Bass Pro Shops CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
Chevrolet Camaro SS Touring Car '10
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Race Race Car '69
Chevrolet Corvette C7 Test Prototype
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Gran Turismo Concept '13
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) '04
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) '06
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) LM Race Car '06
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) LM Race Car '09
Chevrolet El Camino SS 396 '67
Chevrolet Nova SS '70

Citroën C4 Coupe 2.0VTS '05
Citroën C4 WRC '08

Cizeta V16T '94

Daihatsu OFC-1 '07

DeltaWing 2013 DeltaWing
DeltaWing sponsored by Nissan at LeMans 2012

Dodge Challenger R/T Race Car '70
Dodge Challenger SRT8 '08
Dodge Challenger SRT8 Touring Car
Dodge Charger SRT8 '11
Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR '08

Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07
Ferrari 599 '06
Ferrari California '08
Ferrari SP1 '08

Fisker Karma EcoSport '12

Ford 2010 AJ Allmendinger #43 Best Buy FORD FUSION
Ford 2010 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION
Ford 2011 AJ Allmendinger #43 Best Buy FORD FUSION
Ford 2011 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION
Ford 2013 Aric Almirola #43 Farmland FORD FUSION
Ford 2013 Carl Edwards #99 Fastenal FORD FUSION
Ford Focus RS WRC 07 '08
Ford Focus ST '06
Ford Mustang Boss 302 '13
Ford Mustang V8 GT Coupe Premium '07
Ford Shelby GT500 '13

Gran Turismo Performance GRAN TURISMO 350Z RS
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 100
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 100 SPL.
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 125
Gran Turismo Racing Kart SPL.
Gran Turismo Racing Kart Junior
Gran Turismo Red Bull Racing Kart 125
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 Prototype
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 S.Vettel
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Fan Car
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Standard

Grand Touring Garage 1970 Ford Mustang Trans-Cammer

HKS CT230R '08

HPA Motorsport FT565 twin turbo Audi TT

High End Performance G37

Honda ARTA NSX '06
Honda Civic Type R '08
Honda CR-Z Touring Car
Honda CR-Z a '10
Honda EPSON NSX '08
Honda FIT RS '10
Honda Insight LS '09
Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04
Honda Integra Type R (DC5) Touring Car '04
Honda Keihin HSV-010 '12
Honda NSX Concept '13
Honda RAYBRIG HSV-010 '12
Honda RAYBRIG NSX '06
Honda TAKATA DOME NSX '06
Honda weider HSV-010 '11

Hudson Mario Andretti's 1948 Hudson

Infiniti Coupe Concept '06
Infiniti G35 Coupe '06

Isuzu 4200R '89

Jaguar XK Coupe Luxury '07
Jaguar XKR Coupe '10
Jaguar XKR-S '11

Jay Leno 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado

KTM X-BOW Street '12

Lamborghini Diablo GT2
Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 '08
Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce '09
Lamborghini Reventon '08

Land Rover Range Rover Evoque Coupe Dynamic '13

Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 '06
Lexus DENSO DUNLOP SARD SC430 '08
Lexus ENEOS SC430 '08
Lexus IS F '07
Lexus IS F CCS-R '11
Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
Lexus IS F Touring Car '07
Lexus LFA '10
Lexus LFA Nürburgring Package '12
Lexus Weds Sport IS350 '08

Light Car Company Rocket '07

Lotus Elise '11
Lotus Elise '96
Lotus Elise 111R '04
Lotus Elise 111R Race Car '04
Lotus Elise Race Car '96
Lotus Esprit V8 '02
Lotus Europa S.2 '68
Lotus Europa Special '72
Lotus Evora '09

Mazda Atenza Sport 25Z '07
Mazda Autozam AZ-1 '92
Mazda DEMIO Sport '10
Mazda RX-7 Touring Car
Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07
Mazda Roadster Touring Car

Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG '08
Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02

Mine's BNR34 SKYLINE GT-R N1 base '06

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR '05
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR Touring Car '05
Mitsubishi i-MiEV '09

Monster Sport SX4 Base Model '11
Monster Sport Sport SX4 Pikes Peak Special

Nissan Calsonic IMPUL GT-R '08
Nissan GT-R '07
Nissan GT-R Black Mask '07
Nissan GT-R Black Edition
Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy '12
Nissan GT-R Proto '05
Nissan GT-R R35 Touring Car
Nissan GT-R SpecV '09
Nissan ISMO GT3 Nissan GT Academy Team RJN '13
Nissan Leaf G '11
Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R '08
Nissan March 12SR '07
Nissan SKYLINE Coupe 370GT Type SP '07
Nissan SKYLINE Sedan 350GT Type SP '06
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R32 Touring Car
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R33 Touring Car
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R34 Touring Car
Nissan WOODONE ADVAN Clarion GT-R '08
Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R '08
Nissan XANAVI NISMO Z '06
Nissan YellowHat YMS TOMICA GT-R '08
Nissan Zytek Z11SN Greaves Motorsport '13

Peugeot 207 GTi '07
Peugeot 307 CC Premium AVN '04

Plymouth AAR Cuda 340 Six Barrel '70

Pozzi Motorsports Camaro RS

RE Amemiya AsparaDrink RX7 '06
RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7

Renault Sport Clio R.S. '11
Renault Sport Mégane R.S. '08

Spoon CR-Z

Stielow Engineering Red Devil

Subaru BRZ R&D Sport '12
Subaru CUSCO DUNLOP SUBARU IMPREZA '08
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI '10
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI Rally Car '05
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI spec C Type RA '05
Subaru IMPREZA Touring Car
Subaru IMPREZA WRC 2008
Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI '07
Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI spec C '09
Subaru S206 NBR CHALLENGE PACKAGE '12

Suzuki CERVO SR '07
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R) '91
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) Race Car '95
Suzuki SX4 WRC '08

Tajima 2012 Monster Sport E-RUNNER Pikes Peak Special

Tesla Motors Tesla Roadster '08

Toyota 2010 Brian Vickers #83 Red Bull TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Brian Vickers #83 Red Bull TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Matt Kenseth #20 Dollar General/Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 86 "Racing" '13
Toyota CELICA GT-FOUR Rally Car (ST205) '95
Toyota FT-86 Concept '09
Toyota FT-86 G SPORTS Concept '10
Toyota FT-86II concept '11
Toyota GAZOO Racing TOYOTA 86 #166 '12
Toyota PRIUS Touring Car
Toyota Vitz F '12
Toyota Vitz RS 1.5 '07
Toyota YellowHat YMS Supra '05

TVR Tamora '02
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 Touring Car '00

Volkswagen Golf IV GTI '01
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI Touring Car '01
Volkswagen Golf V GTI '05
Volkswagen Golf VI R '10
Volkswagen Kübelwagen Typ 82 '44
Volkswagen Schwimmwagen Typ 166 '42
Volkswagen Scirocco GT24 (Volkswagen Motorsport) '08

Volvo C30 R-Design '09

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

GT Sport updates brought a few dozen (I'm away from my spreadsheet and will update this) cars from GT6, and I imagine that GT7 will continue this trend with nearly as many. We've got a few confirmed for launch already: Murcielago, Aqua etc, so I'd say it's safe to expect eventually NC MX-5, LFA, V16T, Gallardo, Murc LP670, FXX, two to five Premium WRXs and so on to return. Less popular models, or those similar to what we have already are a bit uncertain, e.g. I can't see the 2007 Atenza being added, and we'd be pretty lucky to see the Alfa Brera or Peugeot 307CC, for example.

 

[05XR8]

Why do these threads always descend into a car wishlists?

I'm always asking myself the same 😂

I'll wait...

 

[ScottPuss20]

Fair chance we'll see a few more Premium cars from GT6 showing up in GT7.

 

[sparkytooth]

I think a lot of them will come back because most of the data they need to put them in the game was already gathered when developing the PS3 games. The models aren't too bad 3D mesh wise either, they just need slight reworks and new sounds.

Its likely not as much work as say sourcing and making a brand new car that hasn't been in the games before. In that respect they were future proof on some level because trust me PD wouldn't even consider bringing cars like the F430 back if it wasn't for the fact that most of the work on the car was done already on the PS3 games.

 

[BigJimmy]

I'm sure I remember Kaz saying that the GT5 and 6 premium cars "had so much detail they are ready for next Gen". Anyone else remember this?

 

[SestoScudo]

I can see most of them returning

 

[NICKname]

I don't see any meaningful correlation between GT6's list of premium cars and GT7's car list as a whole. Many of those cars have been ignored so far, while GT7 sees the introduction of many cars that have not been featured in any previous games. It does not seem like they're reeling through old files looking for cars to remodel, but instead using new criteria. While it's a statistical certainty that they will add cars to GT7 that were premiums in GT6, it won't be because they were premiums in GT6. So, yes, some of them will come back in the future, but who knows which ones (or why).

 

[mwoodski]

Fingers crossed the FD2 Type R makes its way back.

 

[Imari]

I'm sure I remember Kaz saying that the GT5 and 6 premium cars "had so much detail they are ready for next Gen". Anyone else remember this?

Yep, and it was bollocks. They also said similar things about the GT4 cars.

The problem with future proofing is that not only is it really tough to predict what will be required of assets in the future, it's almost always going to be easier to create those assets in the future with more advanced tools and such. Trying to get ahead of the game by future proofing feels like it should be more efficient, but in practice it just isn't unless you're a literal Time Lord.

Far better to focus resources on creating the best game possible right now, and let the future worry about itself.

 

[Nielsen]

I wrote this post from the News and Discussion thread, might as well post it here too.

For those who are interested, these are the premium cars in GT6 that aren't in GT7......yet😏

I didn't add the Racecar "Base model", Chrome Line, Stealth Model, and the 15th-anniversary Edition versions

Spoiler

AEM S2000

Abarth Grande Punto '09

Acura NSX '91
Acura NSX '13
Acura NSX LM Race Car '91

Alfa Romeo 147 Ti 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06
Alfa Romeo Brera Sky Window 3.2 JTS Q4 '06
Alfa Romeo TZ3

Art Morrison Corvette '60

Aston Martin DB9
Aston Martin V12 Vantage '10

Audi R10 TDI '06
Audi R18 TDI Prototype '11
Audi R8 5.2 FSI R tronic '07
Audi R8 LMS - Team Oreca '10
Audi R8 LMS ultra '12
Audi R8 LMS ultra (Audi Sport Team Phoenix) '12
Audi RS6 Avant '08
Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro '07

Autobacs ARTA Garaiya '08

Ayrton Senna DAP Racing Kart #17 '80
Ayrton Senna LOTUS 97T '85
Ayrton Senna West Surrey Racing, 1983 Ayrton Senna

Blitz DUNLOP ER34 Skyline '07

BMW 135i Coupé '07
BMW 507 '57
BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07
BMW Z4 '03
BMW Z4 M Coupe '08

Bentley Speed 8 '03

Cadillac CTS-V Coupe '11

Chevrolet 2010 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 AMP Energy/ National Guard CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Jeff Gordon #24 DuPont CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2010 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot/Old Spice CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 AMP Energy/ NG CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2011 Tony Stewart #14 Office Depot CHEVROLET IMPALA
Chevrolet 2013 Dale Earnhardt Jr. #88 National Guard CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Jeff Gordon #24 Drive to End Hunger CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Jimmie Johnson #48 Lowe's CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Juan Montoya #42 Target CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet 2013 Tony Stewart #14 Bass Pro Shops CHEVROLET SS
Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
Chevrolet Camaro SS Touring Car '10
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Race Race Car '69
Chevrolet Corvette C7 Test Prototype
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Gran Turismo Concept '13
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) '04
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) '06
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) LM Race Car '06
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) LM Race Car '09
Chevrolet El Camino SS 396 '67
Chevrolet Nova SS '70

Citroën C4 Coupe 2.0VTS '05
Citroën C4 WRC '08

Cizeta V16T '94

Daihatsu OFC-1 '07

DeltaWing 2013 DeltaWing
DeltaWing sponsored by Nissan at LeMans 2012

Dodge Challenger R/T Race Car '70
Dodge Challenger SRT8 '08
Dodge Challenger SRT8 Touring Car
Dodge Charger SRT8 '11
Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR '08

Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07
Ferrari 599 '06
Ferrari California '08
Ferrari SP1 '08

Fisker Karma EcoSport '12

Ford 2010 AJ Allmendinger #43 Best Buy FORD FUSION
Ford 2010 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION
Ford 2011 AJ Allmendinger #43 Best Buy FORD FUSION
Ford 2011 Carl Edwards #99 Aflac FORD FUSION
Ford 2013 Aric Almirola #43 Farmland FORD FUSION
Ford 2013 Carl Edwards #99 Fastenal FORD FUSION
Ford Focus RS WRC 07 '08
Ford Focus ST '06
Ford Mustang Boss 302 '13
Ford Mustang V8 GT Coupe Premium '07
Ford Shelby GT500 '13

Gran Turismo Performance GRAN TURISMO 350Z RS
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 100
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 100 SPL.
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 125
Gran Turismo Racing Kart SPL.
Gran Turismo Racing Kart Junior
Gran Turismo Red Bull Racing Kart 125
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 Prototype
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2010 S.Vettel
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Fan Car
Gran Turismo Red Bull X2014 Standard

Grand Touring Garage 1970 Ford Mustang Trans-Cammer

HKS CT230R '08

HPA Motorsport FT565 twin turbo Audi TT

High End Performance G37

Honda ARTA NSX '06
Honda Civic Type R '08
Honda CR-Z Touring Car
Honda CR-Z a '10
Honda EPSON NSX '08
Honda FIT RS '10
Honda Insight LS '09
Honda Integra Type R (DC5) '04
Honda Integra Type R (DC5) Touring Car '04
Honda Keihin HSV-010 '12
Honda NSX Concept '13
Honda RAYBRIG HSV-010 '12
Honda RAYBRIG NSX '06
Honda TAKATA DOME NSX '06
Honda weider HSV-010 '11

Hudson Mario Andretti's 1948 Hudson

Infiniti Coupe Concept '06
Infiniti G35 Coupe '06

Isuzu 4200R '89

Jaguar XK Coupe Luxury '07
Jaguar XKR Coupe '10
Jaguar XKR-S '11

Jay Leno 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado

KTM X-BOW Street '12

Lamborghini Diablo GT2
Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 '08
Lamborghini Murciélago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce '09
Lamborghini Reventon '08

Land Rover Range Rover Evoque Coupe Dynamic '13

Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 '06
Lexus DENSO DUNLOP SARD SC430 '08
Lexus ENEOS SC430 '08
Lexus IS F '07
Lexus IS F CCS-R '11
Lexus IS F Racing Concept '08
Lexus IS F Touring Car '07
Lexus LFA '10
Lexus LFA Nürburgring Package '12
Lexus Weds Sport IS350 '08

Light Car Company Rocket '07

Lotus Elise '11
Lotus Elise '96
Lotus Elise 111R '04
Lotus Elise 111R Race Car '04
Lotus Elise Race Car '96
Lotus Esprit V8 '02
Lotus Europa S.2 '68
Lotus Europa Special '72
Lotus Evora '09

Mazda Atenza Sport 25Z '07
Mazda Autozam AZ-1 '92
Mazda DEMIO Sport '10
Mazda RX-7 Touring Car
Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07
Mazda Roadster Touring Car

Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG '08
Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02

Mine's BNR34 SKYLINE GT-R N1 base '06

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR '05
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR Touring Car '05
Mitsubishi i-MiEV '09

Monster Sport SX4 Base Model '11
Monster Sport Sport SX4 Pikes Peak Special

Nissan Calsonic IMPUL GT-R '08
Nissan GT-R '07
Nissan GT-R Black Mask '07
Nissan GT-R Black Edition
Nissan GT-R N24 GT Academy '12
Nissan GT-R Proto '05
Nissan GT-R R35 Touring Car
Nissan GT-R SpecV '09
Nissan ISMO GT3 Nissan GT Academy Team RJN '13
Nissan Leaf G '11
Nissan MOTUL AUTECH GT-R '08
Nissan March 12SR '07
Nissan SKYLINE Coupe 370GT Type SP '07
Nissan SKYLINE Sedan 350GT Type SP '06
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R32 Touring Car
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R33 Touring Car
Nissan SKYLINE GT-R R34 Touring Car
Nissan WOODONE ADVAN Clarion GT-R '08
Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R '08
Nissan XANAVI NISMO Z '06
Nissan YellowHat YMS TOMICA GT-R '08
Nissan Zytek Z11SN Greaves Motorsport '13

Peugeot 207 GTi '07
Peugeot 307 CC Premium AVN '04

Plymouth AAR Cuda 340 Six Barrel '70

Pozzi Motorsports Camaro RS

RE Amemiya AsparaDrink RX7 '06
RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7

Renault Sport Clio R.S. '11
Renault Sport Mégane R.S. '08

Spoon CR-Z

Stielow Engineering Red Devil

Subaru BRZ R&D Sport '12
Subaru CUSCO DUNLOP SUBARU IMPREZA '08
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI '10
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI Rally Car '05
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI spec C Type RA '05
Subaru IMPREZA Touring Car
Subaru IMPREZA WRC 2008
Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI '07
Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI spec C '09
Subaru S206 NBR CHALLENGE PACKAGE '12

Suzuki CERVO SR '07
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA11R) '91
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) Race Car '95
Suzuki SX4 WRC '08

Tajima 2012 Monster Sport E-RUNNER Pikes Peak Special

Tesla Motors Tesla Roadster '08

Toyota 2010 Brian Vickers #83 Red Bull TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2010 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Brian Vickers #83 Red Bull TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Joey Logano #20 The Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2011 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Denny Hamlin #11 FedEx TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Kyle Busch #18 M&M'S® TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 2013 Matt Kenseth #20 Dollar General/Home Depot TOYOTA CAMRY
Toyota 86 "Racing" '13
Toyota CELICA GT-FOUR Rally Car (ST205) '95
Toyota FT-86 Concept '09
Toyota FT-86 G SPORTS Concept '10
Toyota FT-86II concept '11
Toyota GAZOO Racing TOYOTA 86 #166 '12
Toyota PRIUS Touring Car
Toyota Vitz F '12
Toyota Vitz RS 1.5 '07
Toyota YellowHat YMS Supra '05

TVR Tamora '02
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 Touring Car '00

Volkswagen Golf IV GTI '01
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI Touring Car '01
Volkswagen Golf V GTI '05
Volkswagen Golf VI R '10
Volkswagen Kübelwagen Typ 82 '44
Volkswagen Schwimmwagen Typ 166 '42
Volkswagen Scirocco GT24 (Volkswagen Motorsport) '08

Volvo C30 R-Design '09

These are totally missing:

Audi TTS Coupe '09
Mazda éfini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91
Mazda RX-8 Type S '07
MINI COOPER S Countryman (R60) '11

I could mention more premium cars missing on your list if I was to get picky about year variations, but those I did mention are quite unique.

 

[RetroJohan]

These are totally missing:

Audi TTS Coupe '09
Mazda éfini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91
Mazda RX-8 Type S '07
MINI COOPER S Countryman (R60) '11

I could mention more premium cars missing on your list if I was to get picky about year variations, but those I did mention are quite unique.

I also skipped some cars that have pretty much the same bodywork that we getting in GT7

 

[Nielsen]

I also skipped some cars that have pretty much the same bodywork that we getting in GT7

Why? Many players care about differences in trim levels and variations in power output, and so does PD. Otherwise they wouldn’t add cars to GT7 like the Silvia Q’s when they already have the Silvia K’s of the S13 gen.

 

[Strittan]

Will the 3D models simply be imported into GT7 without modification? Almost certainly not. Despite Polyphony's ******** about future proofing, the 3D models were never future proof.
Will those cars make their way back into the game with proper PS5 quality 3D models? Probably for a lot of them. They were included in the game in the first place because they were popular and relevant cars, and they're likely near the top of the list to get included in a new Gran Turismo game.

Wrong. Quite a few GT6 models were indeed future proof, and with future proof I mean they don’t have to be scratch made for future generations. Take the 1984 Ferrari GTO for example, which is more or less identical in GT Sport (and therefore GT7 as well) to it’s GT6 counterpart. Some textures might’ve been updated/tweaked, but the 3D model is, if not 100% identical, then at least very close to.

 

[grandtourismo]

GT Sport updates brought a few dozen (I'm away from my spreadsheet and will update this) cars from GT6, and I imagine that GT7 will continue this trend with nearly as many. We've got a few confirmed for launch already: Murcielago, Aqua etc, so I'd say it's safe to expect eventually NC MX-5, LFA, V16T, Gallardo, Murc LP670, FXX, two to five Premium WRXs and so on to return. Less popular models, or those similar to what we have already are a bit uncertain, e.g. I can't see the 2007 Atenza being added, and we'd be pretty lucky to see the Alfa Brera or Peugeot 307CC, for example.

ironically those everyday cars you listed are exactly the ones i'd like added

 

[SnakeOfBacon]

ironically those everyday cars you listed are exactly the ones i'd like added

I'd like them too! I'd be overjoyed if we got some of those more down-to-earth Premiums back, especially some that aren't in any other games today, like the Mazda AZ-1, Alfa 147, '02 SL 55 and so on, or the truly underloved Honda Insight.
I can't forget the novelties: Kubelwagen and Schwimmwagen should race together with the Jeep! Mario Andretti's 1942 Hudson adds a very different flavour to time trials.

The prospect of getting some more returning Premiums, some totally redone Standards and new-to-series cars at the rate GTSport was getting content for 26 months has me very excited!

 

[Nuschel01]

Take the 1984 Ferrari GTO for example, which is more or less identical in GT Sport (and therefore GT7 as well) to it’s GT6 counterpart. Some textures might’ve been updated/tweaked, but the 3D model is, if not 100% identical, then at least very close to.

@emula probably can name what cars are almost straight ports

 

[DefNotJake]

@emula probably can name what cars are almost straight ports

The 2002 GTS Viper is 100% a straight port from GT5, same goes for the Mark IV GT40. Both of those models look really dated.

 

[grandtourismo]

The 2002 GTS Viper is 100% a straight port from GT5, same goes for the Mark IV GT40. Both of those models look really dated.

what makes them look dated in your opinion? i've never noticed that they looked inferior but now i want to see

 

[DefNotJake]

what makes them look dated in your opinion? i've never noticed that they looked inferior but now i want to see

In the Viper, the dash has very visible polygons, the odometer doesn't work, and the cockpit lighting looks very poor at night. All these issues exist in the GT5 version too. You can tell the textures have at least been upgraded though.


In the Mark IV GT40, the interior is just a mess tbh. Very poor textures, and very visible polygons.

 

[Quakebass]

Will the 3D models simply be imported into GT7 without modification? Almost certainly not. Despite Polyphony's ******** about future proofing, the 3D models were never future proof.
Will those cars make their way back into the game with proper PS5 quality 3D models? Probably for a lot of them. They were included in the game in the first place because they were popular and relevant cars, and they're likely near the top of the list to get included in a new Gran Turismo game.

There were in fact a number of cars from 5 & 6 that came to GTS with wiremeshes that were nearly or fully identical to the PS3 counterparts, often spottable around interior trim, crevices, and wheel wells (operating from old memory the Diablo, SLR, and one or more of the 20 mil Ferraris had these identifiable quirks). I do think a lot of the PS3 work - especially in 6 - genuinely is future proof, or at least close enough to require significantly less labor to touch-up than a than it would for a full rebuild from scratch.

We’re at the point in resolution where we have to zoom in real tight to see where the limits of the modeling are, which isn’t really something that happens frequently in core gameplay. Lately (meaning more the last 5-8 years) what’s been pushing visual fidelity in games has been textures and shading, that’s most of what provided the visual upgrade from GT6 premiums to GTS.

 

[Theufcveteran]

As others have stated, GTS had some cars added that were imported from GT6 - initially, Kaz mentioned this not being possible due to them not having physically based rendering materials, however as we know, they found a way to update the materials as a few of 6's premiums are in the game.

The good news is, they can convert GT6 cars to work and display properly in GTS' rendering engine. We know they can update models once they're in the game (would be odd if they couldn't), they've done it with standard cars, so I see no reason why they can't take GT6's premiums and bump up the poly count - although quite a few of GT6's premium cars had an extremely high poly count in photo mode, actually insane how they got that many to render in real time on a PS3 (at 30 FPS, but still). Adaptive tessellation worked wonders.

As for materials and textures, surely they can update them if needed as I imagine the base 3D model is textureless (it has to be, right?).

If they really wanted to chuck a load of cars into the game quicker than remodeling them, I think they could take a lot of GT6's premiums, touch them up and add them.

 

[Imari]

As others have stated, GTS had some cars added that were imported from GT6 - initially, Kaz mentioned this not being possible due to them not having physically based rendering materials, however as we know, they found a way to update the materials as a few of 6's premiums are in the game.

I guess it depends whether you include the materials properties as being part of the 3D model. That's the way I think of it, but if you consider the 3D model to only be the wireframe then sure.

Wrong. Quite a few GT6 models were indeed future proof, and with future proof I mean they don’t have to be scratch made for future generations. Take the 1984 Ferrari GTO for example, which is more or less identical in GT Sport (and therefore GT7 as well) to it’s GT6 counterpart. Some textures might’ve been updated/tweaked, but the 3D model is, if not 100% identical, then at least very close to.

Perhaps I communicated poorly, but I was considering the textures to be part of the 3D model as it's not really usable in-game without them. The GTO didn't get added until post-release for GTS, so I assume that at least some work had to be done to bring it up to PS4 standards even if the wireframe was acceptable as is. If it was drag and drop then presumably it would have been in the release version.

I also wouldn't call anything that hasn't had to be made from scratch future proof, so I think we're talking about pretty different things here.

 

[Strittan]

Perhaps I communicated poorly, but I was considering the textures to be part of the 3D model as it's not really usable in-game without them. The GTO didn't get added until post-release for GTS, so I assume that at least some work had to be done to bring it up to PS4 standards even if the wireframe was acceptable as is. If it was drag and drop then presumably it would have been in the release version.

I also wouldn't call anything that hasn't had to be made from scratch future proof, so I think we're talking about pretty different things here.

Honestly, the biggest differences between GT6 and what we’ve seen of GT7 so far, are the lighting and reflections. The models themselves I’d say are pretty much the same.