What are the real life versions of the RGT and CTR2?

[rigdon]

All has already been said in the title really. I think the RGT is the Porsche GT3...💡...or am I wrong? I haven't got a clue what the CTR2 is...

 

[kensei]

See the link in the signature of my thread. You can learn all you want about RUF and both the RGT and CTR2

 

[rigdon]

See the link in the signature of my thread. You can learn all you want about RUF and both the RGT and CTR2

Cheers. Nice site by the way

 

[Cap'n Jack]

RUF's arnt Porsches, RUF's are RUF's.

 

[Famine]

Yes - I'm sure you've learned from that link by now that the real life counterparts of the Ruf RGT and Ruf CTR2 are... the Ruf RGT and the Ruf CTR2..

radicool - A bit of grammar pedantry. Why did you decide to type "RUF's", but not "Porsche's"? The way you typed it means you're wrong at least once. As it happens, it's the apostrophied versions that are incorrect - apostrophes do not denote plurality.

 

[Anderton Prime]

I see you and I are continuing our plight to improve literacy and grammar, eh Famine?

 

[Famine]

I only pick on those intelligent enough to remember

 

[phonypoly]

Here we go again with the grammar lessons i hate grammar
As far as i know, Ruf, is an "upgrader" company, just like AMG, Mugen, Spoon, Khoenig, Shelby, etc...., so, a Ruf, is un "upgraded" Porsche or isn't it? An "upgrader"(or whatever you want to call it), uses an existing car, removes certain parts and replaces them with their own performance upgrades etc... 👍
And i think, CTR2= Carrera Targa(upgrader/designer) R-racing, 2=(i thought it meant 2 wheel drive?(and CTR4 is a 4 WD)?The RGT, might be the CTR2 in reality and, the CTR2 could in fact be the CTR4?mmmm

 

[Famine]

Here we go again with the grammar lessons i hate grammar

Really? It doesn't show.

Imagine what the internet would be like if everyone had perfect vocabulary but NO grammar at all, seeing as you hate it.

Or, to put it another way, internet hate seeing would like be imagine NO perfect grammar vocabulary you as all at the what but if.

As far as i know, Ruf, is an "upgrader" company

Shows what you know then. Read the link posted earlier.

just like AMG, Mugen, Spoon, Khoenig, Shelby

Ruf GMbH is a vehicle manufacturer, unlike AMG, Mugen, Spoon and Koenig, but exactly like Shelby and Brabus. A vehicle from Ruf will show "Ruf" as the manufacturer on the vehicle registration document.

a Ruf, is un "upgraded" Porsche or isn't it?

It isn't.

Some of the original Ruf work was on modifying Porsches, but no longer.

An "upgrader"(or whatever you want to call it), uses an existing car, removes certain parts and replaces them with their own performance upgrades etc... 👍

Ruf fabricate their own components, start off with a bodyshell which looks like a Porsche and build the car themselves from there. No parts are removed.

And i think, CTR2= Carrera Targa(upgrader/designer) R-racing, 2=(i thought it meant 2 wheel drive?(and CTR4 is a 4 WD)?The RGT, might be the CTR2 in reality and, the CTR2 could in fact be the CTR4?mmmm

Well, the Ruf RGT is really the Ruf RGT in reality, and the Ruf CTR2 is the Ruf CTR2 in reality. So I've no idea what you're babbling on about.

 

[phonypoly]

I'm just bubbling, i was told that, there's a CT2 and a CT4 in Canada, eh! So, you're saying that, RUF does NOT use any Porsche material?I guess the Porsche salesman i talked to, doesn't know shi*

 

[phonypoly]

Some of the original Ruf work was on modifying Porsches, but no longer.[/color][/b]


oops, now i see that

 

[xcsti]

RUF and porche only share chassis. In the 80's RUF was one upping porshe all the time. Porshe would release a car with a five speed gear box and 16 inch wheels. RUF would create a similar looking car on the same chassis with a six speed and 17 inch wheels.

 

[Azuremen]

RUF buys the chassis from Porsche, unpainted and with nothing in them, and then modifies them accordingly. Do to the extent of difference, RUF is considered its own manufacture.

 

[phonypoly]

i thought that Ruf, took a nice & smooth Porsche and made it... Ruffer BTW, are Ruf anf Koenig... related?

 

[daan]

Alois Ruf and Walter Koenig are not related. One of them builds cars, the other was on Star Trek.

 

[phonypoly]

RUF buys the chassis from Porsche, unpainted and with nothing in them, and then modifies them accordingly. Do to the extent of difference, RUF is considered its own manufacture.

mmmm i think i'll buy some chassis from Porsche and turn them into... 💡 Phonyporsches 💡 Who wants one, i'm taking orders for a 2010 delivery!

 

[phonypoly]

Alois Ruf and Walter Koenig are not related. One of them builds cars, the other was on Star Trek.

Haven't you ever heard of a Porsche Koenig?

 

[rigdon]

According to that link, the RUF RGT is based on the Porsche GT3 and the CTR2 is based on the Porsche 996 Turbo.

 

[daan]

Haven't you ever heard of a Porsche Koenig?

Yes. Which why I made my previous post. What is the first name of the guy who owns Koenig Specials and therefore made the Porsche Koenig C62?

Could it be Walter? Does he share his name with the guy from star Trek? What do you think? 💡

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

RUF's are modified porsche's,see www.fast-autos.net 👍

 

[daan]

RUF's are modified porsche's,see www.fast-autos.net 👍

Rufs are Rufs. Over 80% of the car is Ruf. Therefore the car is a Ruf.

I feel like a dog after typing that. Woof Ruf woof.

 

[Famine]

RUF's are modified porsche's,see www.fast-autos.net 👍

Have you strolled through this thread doing the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LALALA! I'M NOT LISTENING!"?

You are 100% wrong.

 

[Kent]

I think Ruf runs into trouble because of 2 facts...

1) Ruf is not that well known (especially in America) among anyone other than the few of us who have learned of them through GT or actual gt racing.
2) Ruf does actually use a variety of porsches as the base of several different cars.

True, they do totally rebuild just about every single thing on the car.
However, almost all Rufs are recognizable as some form of porsche.
This is one problem that I really think keeps Ruf from distinguishing itself as a stand-alone manufacturer... People just don't distinguish between Rufs and Porsches at first glance.

Another major problem for them is that they only build up cars that were formerly porsches...
Oh, and another problem for them is the fact that an average person can buy a porsche and have an Ruf conversion done for that specific porsche.

In fact, if you go to the Ruf site linked in kensei's signature and go to the "refinement" link in the border, you will see that even Ruf themselves recognize that each of their cars are modified Porsches...

So I say we all decide for ourselves on just how much of a stand alone company Ruf is.

However, if it ever comes down to a supreme court case, for the sake of keeping Ruf/some-form-of-porsche in the GT series, please, please, please vote that Ruf is a company of its own.

 

[phonypoly]

Yes. Which why I made my previous post. What is the first name of the guy who owns Koenig Specials and therefore made the Porsche Koenig C62?

Could it be Walter? Does he share his name with the guy from star Trek? What do you think? 💡

Shocks, i never liked Star Trek , but if Koenig is in it, i just might watch it , maybe he'll make the Enterprise a ... koen-Enterp-ig?

 

[kensei]

A RUF is a RUF and a RUF is based on a Porsche. But a RUF is NOT a Porsche and a Porsche is NOT a RUF. Also RUF is not just a Porsche tuner, though they do make parts for your Porsche so that you can performance tune it.

RUFs are based on Porsches, 911s and more recently boxsters - they are even starting to do things with the Cayenne - but they are not Porsches. You can bring your nice new Porsche to RUF and they can convert it to a RUF. At the same time you can go directly to RUF and have a RUF built for you.

People who buy RUFs are hardcore Porsche fanatics who want the quintessential Porsche experience with their car. So you could say RUF "refines" the already stunning Porsche experience. Refinement is what RUF uses alot to describe what they do.

RUF engineers their own parts and technology and builds each car. A RUF will have some stock Porsche parts on it, but not many. RUF prides itself on it's engine and chassis work creating vehicles that Porsche wish they could build. Porsche are a much larger company who must build models to appeal to a wide range of customers while RUF is a small company who can cater to a Porsche driver's "finer" tastes, most of the time on a one to one basis with said customer.

If you have ever actually seen a RUF in person you would know immediately it is definately not a Porsche. The RUF is somehow more refined, more elegant and more pure. If you have ever been lucky enough to drive a RUF you would also know, again the experience is more purely Porsche in everyway.

RUF is also developing their own car, not based on anything Porsche builds. Though it has been sometime since I have read anything about this.

 

[Jedi2016]

I just had an interesting observation. Just took me three years of playing GT3 to figure it out.. hehe.

The RUF RGT is based on the Porsche 911 (996 GT3). Both cars are in the game (the Porsche only by cheating it on, of course).

I also have on my hard drive here a hotlap of a Porsche GT3 on the Nordschliefe (real-life). Oddly enough, the RGT sounds more like the Porsche than the Porsche does. In fact, the RGT has one of the most realistic-sounding engines in the game, I've noticed.. it's one of the few that really sounds like a powerhouse engine pushing the car around.

Just thought I'd mention that.. hehe. This thread seemed as good a place as any.

Oh, and in a quick comparison, the RGT was around fifteen seconds faster on Complex String than the GT3 was.

 

[Delphic Reason]

I only pick on those intelligent enough to remember

Indeed...

By the way, I love the new Avatar and title... That is one of my favorite Red Dwarf episodes...


Sorry, that was a bit off topic but I just had to say it...

 

[kensei]

Oh, and in a quick comparison, the RGT was around fifteen seconds faster on Complex String than the GT3 was.

The 911 (996) GT3 in the game can not be modified in anyway. You can not add any parts to it and can not change the tires beyond "normal", it stays around 378hp and all you can adjust is the ride height, camber and rear downforce.


I have over 3000 miles on my RGT and 600 miles on my 911 in GT3. I actually prefer the sound of the 911....in fact I just finished the PD cup with my 911, I loved the sound of it in everyone of the 200 laps.

 

[Jedi2016]

Not that the 911 sounds bad, it's just the RGT sounds more like a real 911 than the 911 does. It's not quite exact, but closer.

And my RGT is still unmodified, I made sure of that before I ran the test, so there weren't any turbos or anything helping it along. Besides, it sounds better unmodified.. Fiddling around with the GT40, I realized that installing the racing transmission adds a loud "whine" to the engine, covering up what's otherwise a very nice-sounding car. I hope they get that sorted in GT4. It's just starting to bug me when I download video of a car that's in the game, but it sounds nothing like what I'm used to hearing from GT3.

 

[Pink_the_Floyd]

Have you strolled through this thread doing the internet equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LALALA! I'M NOT LISTENING!"?

You are 100% wrong.

Hahahahahahah ...... you know I'm right.