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Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 6' started by Mattern, Dec 17, 2013.
The 905 is my fastest
I only want to buy one LM car, i'd much rather spend my hard earned credits on retardedly expensive vintage Ferrari's. For some reason I like the Mercedes, will it get the job done? What is the max power that can be gotten from this beast and can it be tamed with a DS3?
Been testing out quite a lot of the cars on 24 Minutes of Le Mans in the Super Series. I drive with a DS3 controller. Stock (no tuning whatsover) my list is as follows:
1. Peugeot 905B Evo 1 Bis LM '92 - 26:15.551
2. BMW V12 LMR '99 - 26:17.925
3. Nissan R92CP '92 - 26:27.182
4. Sauber Mercedes C9 '89 - 26:32.060
5. Toyota Minolta 88c-v '89 - 26:35.361
6. Pescarolo C60 Hybride - 26:38.473
7. Mazda 787B '91 - 26:49.773
8. Audi R8 Race Car '01 - 26:50.306
9. Jaguar XJR9 '88 - 26:51.450
10. Peugeot 908 HDi FAP - Base Model - 26:52.724
11. Toyota GT-One (TS020) '99 - 26:55.658
12. Bentley Speed 8 '03 - 26:57.598
13. Nissan R390 GT1 '98 - 27:24.277
14. AMG Mercedes CLK-LM '98 - 27:31.333
15. Audi R10 TDI '06 - 27:34.102
Aids: TC: 2, ABS: 1.
All except the Sauber Merc and the Jaguar can be done with two pits stops. The Nissan R92 ran out of fuel just before the entrance to the pit on the third round - lost about 10 seconds. All cars except the Nissan R390, the AMG Merc and the Audi R10 will give comfortable wins once you learn the track.
Also raced the same cars adding a High RPM Turbo. For some cars the time difference is negligible because you need three pit stops. For other cars, especially the big diesels, the difference is enourmous - almost double HP.
1. Peugeot 905B Evo 1 Bis LM '92 - 25:47.153
2. Peugeot 908 HDi FAP - Base Model - 25:50.651
3. Nissan R92CP '92 - 25:51.610
4. Audi R10 TDI '06 - 25:56.225
5. Toyota Minolta 88c-v '89 - 26:00.051
6. Sauber Mercedes C9 '89 - 26:01.067
7. Pescarolo C60 Hybride - 26:02.848
8. BMW V12 LMR '99 - 26:07.745
9. Audi R8 Race Car '01 - 26:12.691
10. Toyota GT-One (TS020) '99 - 26:19.276
11. Bentley Speed 8 '03 - 26:27.252
12. Jaguar XJR9 '88 - 26:28.722
13. Audi R18 TDI - 15th Anniversary Edition - 26:33.062
14. Mazda 787B '91 - 26:46.765
15. Nissan R390 GT1 '98 - 26:59.657
16. AMG Mercedes CLK-LM '98 - 27:13:828
17. McLaren F1 GTR Race Car '97 - 27:29.180
All cars except Audi R18 and McLaren F1 need three pit stops, and all cars except AMG Merc and McLaren F1 will give comfortable wins. To win with the McLaren I really had to hug the back of faster cars and slipstream.
This is in no way scientific. Other people may get other results. But I've been around the track at least three times with each car now and I get quite stable results. I am a big fan of all of these cars, so I'm not implying that some are "better" than others. But some are definitely faster, and the Peugeot 905 with its 750 kg is really fast and easy to drive. But no car sounds better to my ears than the Mazda 787B...
Nice testing Hiro. However, I would recommend you test the Peugeot 908 with a mid rpm turbo. It gives a higher pp than with a high rpm turbo (just look at the torque figure, its ridiculous). I suspect it would probably beat the 905. From my experience, its way faster than the other lmp cars I own. I would also suggest the deltawing - tricky to drive, but its supposed to be the quickest le mans car there is.
The Jaguar; Sauber Mercedes or others; key is to turn down the horsepower so that you use less fuel and pit only once (at end of lap 3) worked for me. Also use race hard tyres only (no need for wet tyres depite wet track).
This worked for me
so in general which one is best???
All are good in their own way
Bite the bullet and buy the speed 8. It does the job easy enough.
I know it's not a Grp C or LMP but is the Toyota 7 worth buying?
Just tried this, was winning until just after the Mulsanne straight on the last lap when I ran out of fuel
I have the Peugeot 905 Le Mans Group C car. Handles wonderfully (with a bit of suspension tweaking) but has less than 1k HP, but that's no problem.
It's alright, but it might be a bit over rated. Over 700 PP standard for a 70's car. I bet a Minolta Toyota could go faster than that or anything else.
The Minolta won me the 24 minutes of Le Mans at sarthe, but I had to do some suspension tweaking
I originally bought the Toyota 7 for the Career Mode Classic Car Race at Monaco. It was the biggest purchase I made at the time, but I wasn't winning with any other car I owned up until that point. The car is a rocket and it kicks butt on a lot of courses, but I don't know if it would kick butt in the 24 Minutes of LeMans. I have never tried it. If you don't have 40M Credits to try out a few different expensive cars, I would go with any of the recommended cars in this thread OVER the Toyota 7 for now. Maybe I'll give my Toyota 7 a run on LeMans to see how I do. I can easily win with my Toyota Minolta or Pescarolo C60 Hybride. If I do attempt it in my Toyota 7 I will post back here and let you know. I'm only around average skill, so if I can do it anyone can...
EDIT: I completely forgot that the Toyota 7 has no lights! Ha! I took the car out to LeSarthe and added a High RPM Turbo to it, adjusted the transmission and was about to give me stamp of approval, but then I decided to set the conditions to night and rainy, just to see how she handled in the rain with that much power. It was then that I found myself staring at a black screen, barely able to see 5 feet in front of me. I wouldn't recommend the Toyota 7 for 24 Minutes of LeMans...
I use the Audi r18 anniversary edition and it drives like a dream if tuned right. As for using it for racing it can win the 24 minutes of me mans, but seems almost to slow to compete with the others. However if you use it in the nurb 24 minutes you can easily win by over 2 minutes ahead.
Lel I use the Audi R18 15th Anniv. It drifts though but its easy to recover (every drifter's expectations)
Pescarolo C60 Hybride
this has helped me alot as well. looking at which Le Mans car to get, as im struggling with my R35 touring car, to win the race car race in seasonal keep getting second to that dam McLaren F1. looks like im getting the bentaly or pesco C60
just done the Spa 24min race with a pug 905 evo recommended by Hiro Sharo and did a 25.5 and all i did to the car was add a mid range turbo which Shakie666 recommended, no set up as i didn't want to spoil the car, went in the race blind not knowing what to expect and won first time by 45 seconds
I've just done it with the Peugeot 908 Base Model, with a Low RPM turbo the car can do (just) 3 laps to a full tank, won the race by a minute even with a few mistakes. Fastest lap was a 3:26.3, just run the full race with RS tyres and you're laughing. When you pit you just fill the tank back up to the brim and go again, make sure you put the RS tyres back on as the game will prompt you to go with Inters.
As for the setup I threw an Audi R18 tune from this site on it, one where the description says it's designed so it can beat the 908. Worked fine when applied to this car too, with lowest downforce setting on the car.
EDIT: This is the suspension setting I used, that was all I took from this tune, didn't have to mess with the gearing or anything like that, just made sure there was no DF...
My car for endurance races is the 908B HDI FAP base model...
It may not be the best one but it has all I want... Handling, speed, full interiors, customizable colour and pilot number...
Anybody have lap-times to share from the various races International A and Super from the following cars:
Peugeot 905B Evo 1 vs Nissan R92CP '92 vs Sauber Mercedes C9 '89 vs Pescarolo C60 Hybride vs Audi R10 TDI '06 ?
Looking fwd to it. Thanks for your time!
Mazda LM55 is actually brilliant at Le Mans...
The Chaparral 2X makes it an easy win. Perhaps a bit too easy, but if you're more interested in winning than having a close race that's the car you should go with.
I would say the best LMP/Group C is the one that suits yore style of driving. My favourate is the 905B that gives me the best speed/handling combination. There are others faster and others slightly better handling but the 905 combines both these for me.
Thanks to PSN outage, ended up messing around with Chappy 2X in Le Mans...................... IT IS in rain. Much harder to control than expected under braking when wet. Just be careful with this one - she bites.
I wonder how the new Mazda matches up to the other Le Mans cars...
BMW V12 basically the cheater car for LMP rooms. You need to give it a severe weight/power penalty for races to be fair.
Just love the handling onboard the Pescarolo C60 Hybride ! Any other cars doing better handlingwise as well as speed @ Le Mans? - would be happy to hear from you!
Yunus - So far with the Sauber/R8/905/908/R92CP and Pescarolo C60 Hybrid in my garage no doubt the latter one handles best for me and is the fastest one around all tracks available for 650PP and up.