What manufacturer(s) would you want to join F1?

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The only viable company would be VAG, but neither Porsche or Audi are particularly interested in it, since they are highly succesful in other racing series.
actually Audi were one of the front runners to join F1 in 2008 but they lost out to prodrive.
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As a historian of motorsport, I think Audi belongs in F1 more than anybody else. Next to Mercedes. Imagine....the return of the "Silver Arrows" rivalry between Mercedes and Auto Union!

Besides, Audi has nothing else to prove in LeMans.
 
I almost did something dumb and put Mclaren.

How about Bugatti, another legend in ancient motorsport.
 
actually Audi were one of the front runners to join F1 in 2008 but they lost out to prodrive.

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Must I point out how wrong everything you said in that sentence is, or can we just put the Load of Crap sticker on it and move on with our lives?
 
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Must I point out how wrong everything you said in that sentence is, or can we just put the Load of Crap sticker on it and move on with our lives?

I'm interested - was this a rumour or something as I can only remember Carlin (I know there were others, only name I recall) being a contender.
 
As a historian of motorsport, I think Audi belongs in F1 more than anybody else. Next to Mercedes. Imagine....the return of the "Silver Arrows" rivalry between Mercedes and Auto Union!

Besides, Audi has nothing else to prove in LeMans.


What he said..👍

Also: +1 on the American Anglo, gorgeous, and elegant machines.
 
And in five minutes, you'd have all 11 teams building V10s again, and testing them to death in an effort to increase power or economy. Which would, well, negate any "we are green" efforts by the FIA.


I think you missed what I said, let me repeat myself: "Fixed Fuel" Rule

I don't care if they develop a V100 engine, each single race they can only use 1 tank of fuel 1/2 size of what they are using now. I never said the rule is to save money

If your restrict fuel usage, less fuel will be burned. See what I am getting at?? 💡
 
I'm interested - was this a rumour or something as I can only remember Carlin (I know there were others, only name I recall) being a contender.

The rumour was that Volkswagen or Audi would badge the engines in the F1 team Michael Schumacher was going to found. IIRC Ross Brawn would also be the team principle according to those rumours (but he now has a contract with Honda).

As it turned out Audi vehemently denied the rumours that they were planning to join F1, and as you mentioned they also did not submit an application when the FIA opened the door for a new team to join the grid (and neither did Team Schumacher :dunce:).
 
I think you missed what I said, let me repeat myself: "Fixed Fuel" Rule

I don't care if they develop a V100 engine, each single race they can only use 1 tank of fuel 1/2 size of what they are using now. I never said the rule is to save money

If your restrict fuel usage, less fuel will be burned. See what I am getting at?? 💡

Yes, but developing a new batch of engines will see thousands of hours spent with engines running at full power, with lots of engineers considering adding another nanosecond of delay to the ignition.

And after a year or two of experimenting, the whole grid will return to V10s, which were the previous best configuration under the open rules, and are probably the best bet now, as well. And then, teams will keep spending hundreds of hours and thousands of gallons trying to save some more fuel, extract some more power, or improve the balance of the engine. And if you allowed turbos again, it would take them approximately five minutes to become the norm - and after a short while, everyone will return to V6 Turbos.

Take, for example, McLaren's 1988 car. The FIA, just before banning Turbos completely, decided to set a cap on fuel-consumption - so the Honda engineers had to spend lots of testing-mileage to get the V6 economic enough to prevent late-race retirements.

Even a potential Mazda team would rather have a competitive F1 engine than a rotary, if pistonless rotaries would prove to be less powerful/reliable/economic. On the other hand, rotary engines are "so thirsty" simply because on everyday applications, they lack torque in the low revs, and need a good thrashing to get going. I assume that won't be the case with F1 cars, who will already be going at 19kRPM and with just 500kg to carry?
 
The rumour was that Volkswagen or Audi would badge the engines in the F1 team Michael Schumacher was going to found. IIRC Ross Brawn would also be the team principle according to those rumours (but he now has a contract with Honda).

As it turned out Audi vehemently denied the rumours that they were planning to join F1, and as you mentioned they also did not submit an application when the FIA opened the door for a new team to join the grid (and neither did Team Schumacher :dunce:).

I see, thanks. 👍
 
Audi/Porsche for sure. Then again i would love to see a return of a classic mark like Lotus.

Oh man a 2009 Lotus F1 car would be awesome. They should call it. CC09 for Colin Chapman.

Or use the old naming stucture. Lotus 110 or something.
 
Hyundai or Kia would be nice. :)

Well if you are going that way, how about Yugo?

Seriously, Lotus and Audi would be my picks. Would be nice to see an American company in there in hopes of getting more Americans to pay attention to the sport, but I doubt any could really afford to do it properly.
 
Well if you are going that way, how about Yugo?


Assuming this isn't some sick joke, have you been living under a rock recently?

Hyundai and Kia have made huge leaps and bounds in recent years to genuinely challenge and embarass better established car makers.

:)
 
Then again i would love to see a return of a classic mark like Lotus.

Oh man a 2009 Lotus F1 car would be awesome.


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Now that I think about, Lotus would be the manufacturer
I would be most enthused about coming/returning to F1.
 
Assuming this isn't some sick joke, have you been living under a rock recently?

Hyundai and Kia have made huge leaps and bounds in recent years to genuinely challenge and embarass better established car makers.

:)

Bah! Next your going to try to tell me that Hyundai has experience in motorsports!

:sly:
 
No more sarcasm! My detectors are broken!
 
Audi/Porsche for sure. Then again i would love to see a return of a classic mark like Lotus.

Oh man a 2009 Lotus F1 car would be awesome. They should call it. CC09 for Colin Chapman.

Or use the old naming stucture. Lotus 110 or something.

Hey...didn't think about Lotus! Good one!

Well if you are going that way, how about Yugo?

Seriously, Lotus and Audi would be my picks. Would be nice to see an American company in there in hopes of getting more Americans to pay attention to the sport, but I doubt any could really afford to do it properly.

If American manufacturers are serious about surpassing Europe, they better be able to compete in the highest forms of world motorsport! I picked Chevy because they at least have gained some recent recognition for their success in the LeMans race. I wished they took it a step further.
 
If American manufacturers are serious about surpassing Europe, they better be able to compete in the highest forms of world motorsport! I picked Chevy because they at least have gained some recent recognition for their success in the LeMans race. I wished they took it a step further.
They are. Currently they're in the third year of competing in the WTCC series. Dunno if the 'Vettes are in the FIA GT series as well.

Also, I thought it would be cool if they competed in the SuperGT series sometime in the future. ;)
 
Even though I like F1, I must ask:
Whats the point of competing if your not winning? Why does toyota and Honda continue to take part in a series that doesn't and hasn't rewarded their investment? The best result Honda got was 3rd or 2nd, which gave Takuma Sato the distinction of being the 2nd japanese F1 driver in history to finish on the podium. Even worse is that they both are out performed by thier b teams which have less funds.

As for what manufacterer I would like to see:
Hmmmm, I think Porsche finds their sportscar program just fine and wouldn't be interested in F1(even though they were before). Peugeot is doing enough work with their BTCC(I might be wrong), Sportscar, and their WRC program(if they still are competing in it) so F1 would be out of the picture(though I wouldn't mind seeing it). One wouldn't mind seeing Spyker Again but with their own engine and chassis using their experience from their last venture(if their funds are sufficient). I don't see much major motorsports participation from Mitsubishi so perhaps an entry from them into F1 and since they are a huge company, I would think they have reasonable investment.

And I see no possible involvement from the big three american makes. Ford has failed horribly, Chrysler is in major financial trouble(Even rumoured to be gone by 2010), and GM barely is hanging on after the major financial struggle they had years ago. They aren't gonna waste their time if it doesn't make them big bucks. Besides, america as it looks now barely knows what Sportscar racing is as the majority of them are under the impression that NASCAR is the only thing that exist here in america.
 
Have you been living in a cave during 2006?
No. I didn't see the 2006 season so that was not even a good question to ask me:grumpy: So they got one win, which is a great achievement. However, where are they now?
 
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