What manufacturer(s) would you want to join F1?

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you have some good points there. A question open to everyone, why is it that when ever NASCAR is brought up on this site it seems that it gets bashed for various reasons. why is NASCAR not respected?
 
While this seems rather farfetched, How about....Dome Honda? They could take up the former Super Aguri chassis and go from there. I see it now...The Dome F101.



88c-v Racer
you have some good points there. A question open to everyone, why is it that when ever NASCAR is brought up on this site it seems that it gets bashed for various reasons. why is NASCAR not respected?
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You also noticed its the same BS excuses over and over? I'm still waiting for somebody to prove to me how driving a much lighter and faster car with so many computer aided things(with the Exception of TCS this year) takes more skill then a Heavier, not so computer aided car does. And Sureshot, if "The one with something other than banked turns" requires so much skill, then how do you explain the indycars, which are also computer assisted and yet, do the same thing? And contratrary to idiotic belief no matter how many right turns it has, Isn't every circuit based Race car going in circles? Technically, thats all a lap is.
 
RACECAR
You also noticed its the same BS excuses over and over? I'm still waiting for somebody to prove to me how driving a much lighter and faster car with so many computer aided things(with the Exception of TCS this year) takes more skill then a Heavier, not so computer aided car does. And Sureshot, if "The one with something other than banked turns" requires so much skill, then how do you explain the indycars, which are also computer assisted and yet, do the same thing? And contratrary to idiotic belief no matter how many right turns it has, Isn't every circuit based Race car going in circles? Technically, thats all a lap is.
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well said, i'm glad to see someone that agrees with me. i feel the same way.
 
RACECAR
You also noticed its the same BS excuses over and over? I'm still waiting for somebody to prove to me how driving a much lighter and faster car with so many computer aided things(with the Exception of TCS this year) takes more skill then a Heavier, not so computer aided car does.
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And I'm still waiting for someone to prove to me how driving on a simple banked oval course that looks like all the other ones takes more skill than on a complex track with many different turns where speeds can differ by 150mph over the course of the lap.

See how that works?


With arguments like that you are not anymore right than the people who bash NASCAR.
 
ROAD_DOGG33J
And I'm still waiting for someone to prove to me how driving on a simple banked oval course that looks like all the other ones takes more skill than on a complex track with many different turns where speeds can differ by 150mph over the course of the lap.

See how that works?


With arguments like that you are not anymore right than the people who bash NASCAR.
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Except you don't seem to notice I never said it took more skill like the people who bash NASCAR, I simply stated they still haven't given me a logical explanation. I also wonder how do they come up with this repetitive claim while seemingly possessing little or no experience behind the wheel of either said vehicle or no proof. I don't bash other motorsports like certain people do so no I don't see how it works.

88c-v Racer
well said, i'm glad to see someone that agrees with me. i feel the same way.
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I find it annoying that they bash this Motorsport and looking at their comments, seemingly don't know anything about it. I just hate people bashing motorsports period.
 
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Well of course I'd love to see VW/AUDI in F1.As far as the debate NASCAR vs F1 what about the Juan Pablo Montoya thing,he hasnt found the ovals so easy.:sly:
 
DaddyVDUB
As far as the debate NASCAR vs F1 what about the Juan Pablo Montoya thing,he hasnt found the ovals so easy.:sly:
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lol, good point. In fact, he proves himself that it actually does take skill to "turn left all day".

Back topic, here's two I think would work:

Panoz Cosworth: Take a proven chassic constructor of Open Wheel chassis and a experienced constructor of very capable F1 engines and you have a potent combination.

Dallara Mercedes: Here's a Contructor of some gorgeous Open Wheel chassis, especially the GP2 cars, and have them powered by the very venerable Mercedes engines.
 
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RACECAR
Except you don't seem to notice I never said it took more skill like the people who bash NASCAR, I simply stated they still haven't given me a logical explanation.
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Yeah except you implied that it takes less skill. You basically implied that driving a faster and lighter car takes less skill than driving a heavier car with less aids. And you simplified their argument while you were at it.
 
ROAD_DOGG33J
Yeah except you implied that it takes less skill. You basically implied that driving a faster and lighter car takes less skill than driving a heavier car with less aids. And you simplified their argument while you were at it.
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It may be missinterpreted that way, but I certainly don't mean it like that. The comment mentioning "much lighter and faster car with so many computer aided things(with the Exception of TCS this year) takes more skill then a Heavier, not so computer aided car does" was me pointing out how different they were. As I said, I don't bash other other motorsports so I'm not saying that at all and further more, who am I to say which requires more skill if I myself haven't driven neither of them? This is a question I pose to those questionable claims.
 
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Well if you want to compare between them, why not buy both of those games (NASCAR and F1) and play them? At least you could compare something between them instead of these claims.... :rolleyes: IMO, I do think driving F1 cars are harder because not everybody could drive one easily. Sure some people say NASCAR is more challenging, but just to enter F1 is almost impossible and let alone driving one. The fact that you need a Super License just to race an F1 car really shows the gap between both motor sports.........
 
Sureshot
The one with something other than banked turns.
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Yeah, you see Nascar drivers could never handle a track like the ones in GT4. And they would never go to tracks that aren't in the South. And you would never seem them racing in another country. So you can just forget about them even dreaming of racing on the same track as F1.
 
Gosh, what's this? A NASCAR vs F1 arguement? We've never had one of those before!

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RACECAR
Panoz Cosworth: Take a proven chassic constructor of Open Wheel chassis and a experienced constructor of very capable F1 engines and you have a potent combination.

Dallara Mercedes: Here's a Contructor of some gorgeous Open Wheel chassis, especially the GP2 cars, and have them powered by the very venerable Mercedes engines.
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Certainly a good thought on both counts. The only problems I forsee are that whilst both make very good cars, they do do in the field of single chassis championships (bar the trio of Mygales in British F3), and I'm not sure they would have the resources and backing necessary to keep up in the hyper-competitive world of F1. The design of the GP2 cars, for example, are only renewed every three years; F1 teams come up with new bits every race. With regards to engines, Cosworth isn't the powerhouse it once was, having left the Ford family; Mercedes would concentrate their efforts on Mclaren, and Mugen Honda on the Honda F1 team. The only other engine manufacturer in F3 is - guess who? - Volkswagen.
 
Not to mention the fact that gorgeous open-wheelers can exist only in a spec-series. In any sort of open series, gorgeous is second to function - although sometimes, the two are the same.
 
Ardius
A Spanish team would be interesting too.
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Well, we've got Fernando Alonso, Marc Gené, Pedro Martinéz De La Rosa for the driving part...
A double WDC winner,
a Peugeot LMP driver/Ferrari test driver
and
a McLaren test driver.
Not bad.
 
Muzaffar Musa
but just to enter F1 is almost impossible and let alone driving one. The fact that you need a Super License just to race an F1 car really shows the gap between both motor sports.........
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F1 is more about having the money for a seat and license rather than the skills the last years...
 
:sly: unless I missed it somewhere, no-one has mentioned :sly:

Hyundai - because even teams like Force india and honda need to beat some-one

Suzuki - there F1 cars could be cute.

Mitsubishi - however could be blacked flag all the time for blowing smoke.

Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation - Could give the Japanese a run.

Chrysler LLC - Would be nice to see the US of A be world champions in a WORLD run event. :ouch: :sly: :)

PSA Peugeot-Citroen - may run at a snails pace though.


However in all seriousness I dont think there are many more manufacture's that could afford F1. Also (example) Ferrari and Maserati are owned by Fiat, Nissan has a big chunk owned by Renault and so forth. Many Major Car Manufacture's have pieces of other brands pies and would not want them interferring with their own successes.

A current example of that is Red Bull v's Torro Rosso and F1 cars that are using like engines for different chassis's. This is what the FIA don't want in the future. :grumpy:. I think allowing more cars would make for better racing. However if I want to see like cars racing each other I would just watch A1GP instead.
 
Open Addict
However in all seriousness I dont think there are many more manufacture's that could afford F1. Also (example) Ferrari and Maserati are owned by Fiat, Nissan has a big chunk owned by Renault and so forth. Many Major Car Manufacture's have pieces of other brands pies and would not want them interferring with their own successes.

A current example of that is Red Bull v's Torro Rosso and F1 cars that are using like engines for different chassis's. This is what the FIA don't want in the future. :grumpy:. I think allowing more cars would make for better racing. However if I want to see like cars racing each other I would just watch A1GP instead.
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I agree with what you have said except Red Bull is using a Renault engine while Toro Rosso uses the Ferrari engine.
 
peterjford
I agree with what you have said except Red Bull is using a Renault engine while Toro Rosso uses the Ferrari engine.
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Yup, in fact, it's actually the opposite way around, they use the same chassis, but not the same engine.
 
peterjford
I agree with what you have said except Red Bull is using a Renault engine while Toro Rosso uses the Ferrari engine.
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Ardius
Yup, in fact, it's actually the opposite way around, they use the same chassis, but not the same engine.
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But Red Bull is the main team, Torro Rosso is the sister team. Therefore Red Bull owner would be a little grumpy that Torro Rosso got the first win for them.
 
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But Red Bull is the main team, Torro Rosso is the sister team. Therefore Red Bull owner would be a little grumpy that Torro Rosso got the first win for them.
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Actually, both teams are owned by Dietrich Mateschitz so I think he would be as equally happy if one of the Red bull cars won.
 
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You know what? After seeing what transpired this week at the FIA, I think now I understand Audi's reluctance to get involved with the FIA...and for good reason.
 
Open Addict
But Red Bull is the main team, Torro Rosso is the sister team. Therefore Red Bull owner would be a little grumpy that Torro Rosso got the first win for them.
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We weren't disputing that, just your comment "they use like engines in different chassis." Its the other way around.
 

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