What view do you use?

[route_66]

Bumper cam if I'm trying to have a competitive race, or a hot lap - I can't drive properly outside the car.

Chase cam if I messing about - I've got 700 cars, sometimes I want to see what I'm driving (looks cooler when you throw a massive spin as well)

 

[soptom]

However, it is absolutely impossible to drive at the limit with the helicopter view.
People who use that view are not real racer.

That's just your opinion, not fact.

 

[Famine]

I use bumper cam but I recognize that you can still drive at the limit with the roof cam. However, it is absolutely impossible to drive at the limit with the helicopter view.
People who use that view are not real racer.

Catch me then.

 

[mccfowler]

Catch me then.

When I first started driving GT1 this was always a topic of debate with my friends and I. They always took outside view and I tried both and chose bumper. It does give a better sense of control and speed. When you are used to it there is no question as to where the limits of car are. You can tell exactly where the car is pointed and where the tires will run. I wouldn't even want to see the inside of the car if it was possible. When you drive a real car you're attention is never on the dash board. Thats just a waist of valuable tv screen space. All you need is the road. I wouldn't mind having a hood cam though like in Collin Mcrae Rally 3.

 

[VIPFREAK]

Roof... but past GT games bumper.

 

[Famine]

When I first started driving GT1 this was always a topic of debate with my friends and I. They always took outside view and I tried both and chose bumper. It does give a better sense of control and speed. When you are used to it there is no question as to where the limits of car are. You can tell exactly where the car is pointed and where the tires will run. I wouldn't even want to see the inside of the car if it was possible. When you drive a real car you're attention is never on the dash board. Thats just a waist of valuable tv screen space. All you need is the road. I wouldn't mind having a hood cam though like in Collin Mcrae Rally 3.

Hmm.

All that aside, I don't care whether or not chase view is better than bumper view, or which is better than roof-cam or not. All I care about it having a laugh. If people then turn up and say, on the basis of a computer game, that I'm not a "real racer" based on my choice of camera angle then I invite them, by all means, to try and catch me. Because if they can't and I'm "not a real racer" to them, then what the hell are they?

Ask daan, vexd, Wastegate, RogsR34UK or any number of the guys from the UKGTP meeting (a finer bunch of drivers has never been seen) whether or not I'm a real racer, or if, using that view, I can "drive at the limit", which Corvette proclaims as "impossible".


If it works for you, it works for you. If you look down your bumpercam at others because of the view you prefer on a computer game, you're an ignorant muppet.

 

[oxide]

I was using the bumper cam mainly because of the rear view mirror, but switched to the roof cam of late, and am unsure which I like the best, one thing I do know is that I really dont like the helicopter or chase cam.

 

[DeadlyFred]

Roof-cam is definitely one of the best things they added to GT4, imho. I very much like how it gives you a better vantage point on the road ahead as opposed to bumper cam. I'm sort of disappointed at the fact that roof-cam significantly reduces the visual feedback from G-forces that the bumper cam offers (when you brake/turn hard, etc) but overall I vastly prefer it.

I hate not having my rear view mirror though.

 

[ktaylor57]

Hmm.

All that aside, I don't care whether or not chase view is better than bumper view, or which is better than roof-cam or not. All I care about it having a laugh. If people then turn up and say, on the basis of a computer game, that I'm not a "real racer" based on my choice of camera angle then I invite them, by all means, to try and catch me. Because if they can't and I'm "not a real racer" to them, then what the hell are they?

Ask daan, vexd, Wastegate, RogsR34UK or any number of the guys from the UKGTP meeting (a finer bunch of drivers has never been seen) whether or not I'm a real racer, or if, using that view, I can "drive at the limit", which Corvette proclaims as "impossible".


If it works for you, it works for you. If you look down your bumpercam at others because of the view you prefer on a computer game, you're an ignorant muppet.

👍

That is one of the best posts I have ever read on this forum.

I really don't understand why chase cam users "aren't real racers." Like Famine's post that I'm quoting, if something works for you, go ahead and use it. I'm not going to be one that judges and looks down on people because of their preference and what they're comfortable with. The choice of what view you use when racing along with what transmission and a DS2 or DFP or other wheel is just that - a CHOICE. It's pretty sad when a choice of something in a video game is something people use to inflate their egos any more.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Bumper for me. Helps me gauge distances better than any other view, particularly on city tracks. I'll occasionally use the 'roof-cam' for an F1 (though 'nose-cam' would probably be a better description) so that I can see the wheel in relation to the rumble strips, but it takes some getting used to. Hate chase view as I can't see the front of my car.

 

[G.T]

Guys, this has been discussed before:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58601&highlight=camera+view

 

[ferrari_chris]

Bumper cam for me.

I used to use chase view relgiously in GT1 -> GT3, but the chase cam in GT4 is crap. It's mounted too tight, and does't let the car move in the view at all. I liked in it in GT3, I could get my car fully sideways in chase view, and I had a better sense of where the car was pointing. Now I find that by the time the car is noticably sliding around, it's to late to pull it back...

When I take a car for a blast around the 'ring, I'll check it out (front and back) in chase view when coming down the straight, but that's about the only time I'll use it. I think I'll check out the roof view for the F1's though - sounds interesting.

But, like Famine said - it's whatever works for you I guess...

 

[ExigeEvan]

Guys, this has been discussed before:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=58601&highlight=camera+view

It took 40 posts for that to be done!!

I do roof cam generally.

 

[thebigmacmoomin]

Roof Cam

 

[Matty Ryan]

I use the chase camera, because I want to.

 

[extreme car]

Bumper cam 4 ever

 

[Johnie12inch]

GT3, bumper cam always, but i dont know how GT4 felt different and i went chase cam now, so i know the difference between the two in sense of feel of the car, i find it easier to drift with third person though as i can see how the car is sliding more and correct it, plus the cars r much more beautiful u cant help but admire thier sexy bootys.

 

[kikie]

I, me, bumper cam

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

Chase view if using a DS2, and bumper cam if i'm on the wheel. Don't ask why, been that way since GT3.

 

[Moloch_horridus]

If roof view had access to rear view mirror I would use that. If there was a cockpit view I would definitely use that, unfortunately there isn't. For those that think bumper cam is cockpit cam try sitting 1 foot from the rear of the same car as you are driving and see what you are looking at. The biggest problem with bumper view is having your view obscured by cars in front.

 

[Dr_Watson]

If roof view had access to rear view mirror I would use that. If there was a cockpit view I would definitely use that, unfortunately there isn't. For those that think bumper cam is cockpit cam try sitting 1 foot from the rear of the same car as you are driving and see what you are looking at. The biggest problem with bumper view is having your view obscured by cars in front.

in a replay if you flip through the cameras, it has a *true* bumper cam... and its alot lower and a bit more forward. I think they were trying to emulate with the "in-car" driving view is the "windscreen view" camera... which would be the ideal view.
i'm not sure why people seem to like the cockpit cameras (ala NFS 1 and 2, scgt, etc...) where you can see the interieor bits of the dashboard + steering wheel.
IMO thats just creepy, and is a complete waste of screen realestate, texture memory, and processing time.
when you are in a "sit-down" arcade game (F355 challenge is a good example) the tv screens are there to emulate the view out the windscreen... i mean, you already have a dashboard and steering wheel sitting infront of you, why put a second one on the screen?
+ when you're driving, do you look at the dashboard? probably not.. so why show it?
the ideal would be to show a wee bit of the dash at the bottom of the screen + however much hood you would be able to see from the drivers seat... would be much more realistic than a full cabin.

oh, and back to gt4's camera... its definately not a bumper, but its also not a cockpit view.... from playing with the replay cameras, it seems like its on the hood... bonnet-cam if you will.

 

[GRNrimsNSX]

bumper cam!!! but sometimes i use roof cam...depends how i feel..i think bumper cam lets you get into turns better!!

 

[ving]

voted...

 

[MarcoM]

I am happy to find out that the driving view is not only a thing the buggers me. I switch a lot between them. Of course the general opinion is that the in car view is the best to use. I second that. But if you drive for many hours in one stint there are times I get headaches. If I switch to chase view I feel more relaxed.

I tried to search for an explanation on this matter. Driving with the in car view results in a lot more information being processed due to the amount of moving tarmac that can be seen. When driving the chase or roof cam, the amount of fast moving tarmac on screen is less. This results in less information to be processed by the brain. I once had a splitscreen multiplayer session. After 3 hours I could feel my brains heating up.

As mentioned earlier I too think the incar view is too low. You'll notice this when you drive close behind another car. Compare that picture with that what you see in a real car. Due to this and the lower resolution of the PS2 game (compared to real life) I think we have a disadvantage in estimating the approach for the next corner.

So then the choice is between the roof and chase cam. In many racing games the roof cam is quite good. Not so in GT4. On many cars it is placed wrongly. Or let's just say that the visuals created with this view are not allways top notch. Take for example the Lancia Delta. Using the roof cam you'll only see the rim of the roof opposed to the bonnet which you would like to see. Same for the McLaren F1, Citroen 2cv and others. I really hoped PD would have made more spectacular and indulging roofcam views. The Castrol Supra, F1 or Race Viper have pretty good ones.

A big plus using the chase view is that you get to look at your gorgeous car all the time. Downside is that in order to gold the licences or to win the driving missions I really can't use the chase view. Did anyone get 100% with using the chase view?

 

[bAtesy]

I prefer the Roof Cam main reason because I can get a better feel of the car and what is going on around me. Plus theres not many stuff shown on screen, for example, in Bumper Cam, you have the rear view mirror at the top which distracts me, and in chase cam, the car is in the way which distracts me.

 

[vtec_guy]

Bumper cam all the way, you get a much better view of everything approaching you. And it's the most realistic view to use with a wheel.

 

[deadboy1975]

like most people bumper cam

i only used chase cam in gt1 and gt2. changed over for gt3 and haven't looked back since.

laters

 

[MisterWeary]

I race with chase cam but use the in-car view for fun

 

[Blackbird.]

Roof cam. Just feel comfortable in it.

 

[Famine]

A big plus using the chase view is that you get to look at your gorgeous car all the time. Downside is that in order to gold the licences or to win the driving missions I really can't use the chase view. Did anyone get 100% with using the chase view?

Not yet. But I do have all golds (twice, on two different region releases) and everything up to the point I'm at. It's only down to time really. In a few days all the manufacturer's races will be done, then it's the remainder of the endurances.

100%, all A-Spec and, yes, chase view...