What's up with the Taurus SHO?

[karolusa]

Ok, I love ford Taurus ,fully tuned 420HP+ ---> LOVELY but when I first bought it , with out any custom parts it shakes like an A$$ ,(when I accelerate ,between 0-80MP/H)
whats up with that?

 

[lmracer]

its a mid 90's mid-class family sedan made by ford. thats its problem. or maybe you refer to the exessive torque steer and wheel hop? stiff dampeners and a cirtain suspention set-up which unfortunatly i cant provide will help with all that.

 

[niky]

That's supposed to simulate torque-steer or wheel-hop. Quite a few powerful FF cars get that.

 

[L28eT]

It's a Ford Taurus SHO, that's what it is!! Enough said.

 

[95GTIVR6]

I personally like the predecessor to the model in GT4. Too bad it isnt in the game.

Anyways, YES this thing does hop all around and junk, making it a challenge to drive. FWD ownz you!

💡

SHO = Super High Output

 

[RICHARDO]

V8 + FF = torque steer. I like the engine (another Yamaha-built engine in GT4 is in the Toyota 2000GT) but why the hell would you put it in a Taurus? How is that logical? A Taurus dosen't scream "sports sedan" in the first place.

 

[L28eT]

SHO = Super High Output

SHO= So Highly Overrated

 

[95GTIVR6]

SHO= So Highly Overrated

or

SHO = ****ty Handling Overall

 

[L28eT]

or

SHO = ****ty Handling Overall

If you're going to use foul language, say it!!

 

[Duke]

No, don't say it. The language filter is there for a reason.

Ever driven an SHO in real life? They are a hoot. Excellent sleepers.

 

[Raptor13x]

Why did they bother even putting the accursed thing in the game?

And yet they left out the FB RX-7! And the RX-2! And the RX-3! And the RX-4! What were they thinking??

 

[samj_13]

V8 + FF = torque steer. I like the engine (another Yamaha-built engine in GT4 is in the Toyota 2000GT) but why the hell would you put it in a Taurus? How is that logical? A Taurus dosen't scream "sports sedan" in the first place.

It's basic math man, lol and 420HP in a Taurus? Quite a grocery-hauler. Grocery-haul a$$

 

[Sniffs]

raptor13x: point me toward an RX2, 3, or four, and I'll give you an opinion. who knows, the Cosmos may serve as what we GOT as the ealy RX's. and if you mean for the FB the 83 with the corvette like hips...yeah, I wish they'd left it in it needed a prover conversion.

the Taurus SHO was in there because at the time of the originals, ford's performance was all in EUROPE. most of GT2's line up came out of ford Europe. they had to have SOMETHING in there besides Mustangs

 

[MarioAndretti]

No, don't say it. The language filter is there for a reason.

Ever driven an SHO in real life? They are a hoot. Excellent sleepers.

The SHO ain't squat.I held off one in my little ole 1990 aerostar mini van.He went for the pass where i didn't expect it so he had a run on me.He got side by side.I hit over drive at 70 and it was all over.AHHH HAAA HAAA,sleeper is right.

 

[Shadow Drifter]

The SHO ain't squat.I held off one in my little ole 1990 aerostar mini van.He went for the pass where i didn't expect it so he had a run on me.He got side by side.I hit over drive at 70 and it was all over.AHHH HAAA HAAA,sleeper is right.

Are you sure he was racing you, I mean, I've been in my car before and went to pass someone just to have the jackhole step on it as if I'm really going to waste my turbo on him/her. I just hold back and wait for another open time to go around. I doubt an Aerostar would hold its own against an SHO at any speed, and this isn't coming from an advocate of Ford or it's affiliates, I'm just stating the facts of what physics will and won't allow.

The SHO is more powerful than any Aerostar stock for stock and the simple fact that he may or may not have been in a lower gear in order to pass you totally negates your arguement. In fact, I'm willing to bet that while your automatic minivan was busy downshifting, he probably just shook his head and waited for you to get over your own pedistal and took his next exit.

Oh well . . .that's just my opinion.

-Dave

 

[95GTIVR6]

Are you sure he was racing you, I mean, I've been in my car before and went to pass someone just to have the jackhole step on it as if I'm really going to waste my turbo on him/her. I just hold back and wait for another open time to go around. I doubt an Aerostar would hold its own against an SHO at any speed, and this isn't coming from an advocate of Ford or it's affiliates, I'm just stating the facts of what physics will and won't allow.

The SHO is lighter and more powerful than any Aerostar stock for stock and the simple fact that he may or may not have been in a lower gear in order to pass you totally negates your arguement. In fact, I'm willing to bet that while your automatic minivan was busy downshifting, he probably just shook his head and waited for you to get over your own pedistal and took his next exit.

Oh well . . .that's just my opinion.

-Dave

Taurus SHO + V8 + FWD
Aerostar + V6 + RWD

Sounds like an even match to me.

 

[Shadow Drifter]

Taurus SHO + V8 + FWD
Aerostar + V6 + RWD

Sounds like an even match to me.

And this would be based off of . . . what? The fact that the weight transfer to the rear wheels may or may not give the Aerostar an advantage from the launch? Or would it be the fact that the Aerostar is a minivan, thus, making it the stellar performer over the Taurus which was originally produced for circuit racing?

I just don't get what the rationale is for this assessment. It sounds to me like yet another case of domestic-bashing at it's finest. Like I said, don't get me wrong, I'm a completely unbiased person when it comes to the wonderful world of motorsport.

However...

I do have to pay attention to the facts that I am handed in front of me, and what I see is a 220hp car weighing in at 3309 pounds and a 145hp VAN weighing in at 3248 pounds. Now, if we stay within the benchmark and race these two vehicles on paper only, then the obvious winner with a more grand power to weigh ration is hands down the Taurus SHO. And, I'm almost certain up to the point where I'd put my racing license on the line that in the real world the Taurus would take the Aerostar all the way through the power band from naught to top.

When it all boils down, you can't deny the facts. 220hp with 200ft lbs of torque is going to considerably outshine the 145hp and 165ft lbs of torque that is produced by the Aerostar. This is also going to happen with out any regard to drivetrain. Because FWD, AWD or RWD, the weight similarities are too close for there to be a significant difference.

-Dave

 

[Duke]

Taurus SHO + V8 + FWD
Aerostar + V6 + RWD

Sounds like an even match to me.

Not from a roll. FWD would hardly enter the equation. I'm going with the Shadow Drifter theory that the SHO driver said "what a jackass" to himself and just didn't bother fighting for it. Let's look at the numbers.

Data:
1990 Aerostar: 3.0l V6, 145 hp, 165 lb-ft, 3284 lbs
1990 SHO: 3.0l V6, 220 hp, 200 lb-ft, 2956 lbs

Results:
SHO is 330 lbs lighter, with 50% more horsepower, and 21% more torque.

Conclusion:
The SHO driver wasn't going for it.

 

[Shadow Drifter]

Thank you, Duke.

That's all I was trying to say; the Taurus has the obvious advantage so from what I see, I have to say that he held back.

The stats really helped a lot too. Thank you. :-)

-Dave

 

[95GTIVR6]

It sounds to me like yet another case of domestic-bashing at it's finest.

Well, I don't see how what i said was bashing, I even stated earlier that i liked the SHO model offered. Bashing would be:

"The SHO sucks because it was made by incompitent, FAT Americans who dont know **** about handling and only care about how big the block is under the hood. Horsepower plays a much more important role in the cars performance so lets shove an oversized engine into a FWD family sedan and sell it as a sports model."

@MarioAndretti: Do you remember what body style the SHO was you "raced"

 

[karolusa]

anyway ,for me SHO is very good car but too heavy for its engine.It could be much faster....

 

[Relik86]

The SHO ain't squat.I held off one in my little ole 1990 aerostar mini van.He went for the pass where i didn't expect it so he had a run on me.He got side by side.I hit over drive at 70 and it was all over.AHHH HAAA HAAA,sleeper is right.

I passed a modified '76 Corvette in a Sunfire once... He fully expected it and I just blew by him like he wasn't even trying

 

[MarioAndretti]

Are you sure he was racing you, I mean, I've been in my car before and went to pass someone just to have the jackhole step on it as if I'm really going to waste my turbo on him/her. I just hold back and wait for another open time to go around. I doubt an Aerostar would hold its own against an SHO at any speed, and this isn't coming from an advocate of Ford or it's affiliates, I'm just stating the facts of what physics will and won't allow.

The SHO is more powerful than any Aerostar stock for stock and the simple fact that he may or may not have been in a lower gear in order to pass you totally negates your arguement. In fact, I'm willing to bet that while your automatic minivan was busy downshifting, he probably just shook his head and waited for you to get over your own pedistal and took his next exit.

Oh well . . .that's just my opinio


I know the guy who owns the car and he's always racing"everyone.Maybe his engine was getting tired from too much hot rodding.My van wasn't really stock.It was a company vehicle with the rear seats and inside pannels removed.It may have had a chip in it cause i couldnt keep back tires on it.The exaust had alot to do with it also because about a month later i destroyed my muffler on a 2 track.When I put a new stock muffler on it,I lost a whole lot of power and my mpg.dropped alot as well.

 

[Shadow Drifter]

I know the guy who owns the car and he's always racing"everyone.Maybe his engine was getting tired from too much hot rodding.My van wasn't really stock.It was a company vehicle with the rear seats and inside pannels removed.It may have had a chip in it cause i couldnt keep back tires on it.The exaust had alot to do with it also because about a month later i destroyed my muffler on a 2 track.When I put a new stock muffler on it,I lost a whole lot of power and my mpg.dropped alot as well.

Are you sure you're 39, bro?

I only ask because these comments don't sound like they are coming from grown man who is 18 years older than me.

That's all I'm really going to say, it just doesn't sound right you know, I mean, I'm only 21, but I know the do's and don'ts of driving a mini-van. And it's not that I can't drive like that, it's just that I don't. I have my daily driven Jetta and my RX-7 that I am rebuilding the engine on. I also my Team Mopar sponsored Neon, but I don't go around burning tires and street racing with either of those, or my mother's minivan for that matter.

And I assume that you work for a construction company or something with similar loading requirements because for not only the rear seats to be removed but the interior paneling as well, that's some heavy duty stuff.

I mean, when I was in the Marine Corps, we didn't even do that stuff to our Govvy vehicles and I've seen our EVOC trainers get down and dirty with those things.

I don't know, I just normally don't hear that sort of phrasing and diction from a person who is almost 40.

-Dave

 

[amp88]

The only thing I know about the Taurus SHO is that it was on Due South (the Canadian 'mafia' drove it) and it sounded pretty good. Never driven it in GT4 though, so I can't comment on its handling in the game.