Which European Country is the Best Car Manufacturer?

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Which European Country Makes the Best Cars?

  • United Kingdom

    Votes: 18 12.1%

  • Germany

    Votes: 101 67.8%

  • France

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Italy

    Votes: 23 15.4%

  • Sweden

    Votes: 5 3.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Total voters
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italian cars are full of passion. even the litle fiats.
german cars are the best road cars .
 
pgzzz
That's rich coming from the motoring mecca that is Holland LOL !
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Tell me one Dutch car brand that actually sucked please? There have been only few carmakers here, but the ones that were.....were of very good quality.

I'm not offended or anything, but I'm just looking at the facts. I don't even like Spyker that much lol. ^^
 
I Have been a mechanic for rather a while and have worked on some very nice and expensive cars down to your average saloons, honestly the germans have it without a doubt, i love old british cars (when they start) but as a country of cars germany is the clear winner

P.S French cars are lovely to drive but from a mechanics POV a abomination they shouldn't be allowed to sell the latest renault's and citroens (in 2 weeks i have done 5 renault engines all under 25,000 miles all head gaskets)
 
Mygroth
Tell me one Dutch car brand that actually sucked please? There have been only few carmakers here, but the ones that were.....were of very good quality.

I'm not offended or anything, but I'm just looking at the facts. I don't even like Spyker that much lol. ^^
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Apart from Spyker I can't think of any dutch car manufacturers - Can you enlighten me ?
 
mygroth
tell me one dutch car brand that actually sucked please? There have been only few carmakers here, but the ones that were.....were of very good quality.
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Nick_c_888
I Have been a mechanic for rather a while and have worked on some very nice and expensive cars down to your average saloons, honestly the germans have it without a doubt, i love old british cars (when they start) but as a country of cars germany is the clear winner

P.S French cars are lovely to drive but from a mechanics POV a abomination they shouldn't be allowed to sell the latest renault's and citroens (in 2 weeks i have done 5 renault engines all under 25,000 miles all head gaskets)
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And that while Renault is pretty much the better carmaker in France. I heard from a Peugeot employee that their cars are just parts being thrown together.

pgzzz
Apart from Spyker I can't think of any dutch car manufacturers - Can you enlighten me ?
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Daf.
 
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German cars are the best.
Followed by sweden.
Italian cars are pretty but usually have realiability problem.
French cars are getting better but still not on the german level
GB cars nothing much to say about them.

If we're talking about racing car then it's another story.

Renault won the F1 championship with his engine
Citroen won the Rally championship
Peugeot won Le Mans race.
Le Mans championship was won by Peugeot.

The french connection did pretty good in 2010 racing factory wise. I dont think any other nation had better success then them in 2010.
 
Mygroth
What sucked about it if I may ask?

Edit: I voted Germany by the way, I don't like the cars that much, but I have to give BMW and Audi credits for their rich quality.
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The plus side was that it had a transmission that elastic-based so you coudl go as fast in reverse as you did forwards!

The bad: everythign else...
 
Germany, easily. The car is a German invention, the petrol Engine is a German invention and so is the diesel engine.
Today, cars like the BMW M3, the Mercedes-Benz SLS and the Audi R8 or basically every Porsche seems to get a lot of positive feedback from almost every critic possible, while the more down-to-earth cars sell quite a bit. Also, the premier executive cars happen to be build by German manufacturers as well ;)

zuqbu
BMW, Mercedes, VW and Audi seem to have some sort of secret bet going on, whoever can sell the most generic and dull 4-door saloon and still be profitable wins. Turn the car into a succesful SUV and you rake bonus points.
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That's called 'creating a stable base of sales', I'd think.

zuqbu
"But," you say "what about the R8?" Let's start with the TT first. It's design is a cross breed between a Beetle and a Leopard II. The R8 is a TT on Meth. What's up with this silly painted sideblade, who's idea was this, and how can he be made responsible for his sins?

"But, but," you say "at least BMW M-Line cars are nice!" Back in the middle ages, once a witch was tortured in the most humilating way: Her eyelids where fixed, so that she could not close them, and then she was confronted with the ugliest and deformed horses her torturer could find. After a while she got used to the looks of these poor creatures, and started to like them. Struggling with ideas, the torturer came up with a brilliant idea! He fed the horses with the fattest sausages and pretzels of the kingdom, and the horses farts became more frequent, and – in a torturing kind of way – more… let's say powerful. After the UN was founded in 1948, these ways of torture were deemed illegal and thus banned. But somewhere, in the distant kingdom of Bavaria, the tradition is still alive and executed.
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I guess I won't even argue with that. I'll just laugh, thank you :lol:
Strangely, a lot of critics seem to disagree with you.

zuqbu
And for Porsche… I don't get the hype. They are recycling the 911 design since decades, and since the early 90s they have been heavily toyotarising their components and manufacturing process. Now they are "innovating" their lineup with SUVs and a stretch-limo 911 with 4 doors, every new car they present is uglier than the last one. The only Porsche I could drive around without being embarresed about myself is 25 years old.
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Sharks haven't evolved much either. Because that design works. And as the new 911 GT2 RS shows pretty clearly, it works spectecularily well.

zuqbu
I voted Italy. Concerning styling and design they have hits (458, Alfa 8C) and misses (I tried to unsee the Multipla, I really did), but at least the don't drown in their own mediocrity.
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They'll rather, you know, cumbust with passion :lol:
 
AMCNUT
The plus side was that it had a transmission that elastic-based so you coudl go as fast in reverse as you did forwards!

The bad: everythign else...
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Aren't you talking about a Trabant here? :p
 
zuqbu
I'm a designer (not an industrial one, though), and in the design circles I frequent, the TT is a recognized as a "Schützenpanzer". There may be other design circles whose social interaction relies on heavy cocaine abuse, which may quite like the TT, but I do not frequent those.

And just because it's german, and 'Bauhaus' is so too, does not equal a relationship. Actually, the term you were looking for might be 'New objectivity'.
But if by 'Bauhaus' you mean it's interior reminds one of the building in Dessau, I might agree.
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Ah.. we're going to play *that* game now.

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When I say Bauhaus, I obviously mean the German Modernist style of architecture heavily influenced by the Bauhaus school, with people such as Mies van der Rohe and Gropius. Indeed, I'm referring to the Neue Sachlichkeit, which is basically the same thing, but which deserves no further elaboration on a gaming website.
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And in my design circles we can appreciate the subtle, refined qualities of German design without having to resort to cocaine, thank you very much. :rolleyes:
 
pgzzz
Apart from Spyker I can't think of any dutch car manufacturers - Can you enlighten me ?
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Daf (technologically very advanced for their time with the Variomatic), and Donkervoort to name just two.
 
Portugal!

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They even made a racing version...
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mlc3
I never new that the UK still made cars, at least they bolt on a few doors etc lol.

Name one car actually fully made in the UK? Anyone? Thought not.
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Mclaren, Noble, Morgan, Aston Martin, Lotus, Vauxhall Astra, Vauxhall Movano and Vivaro, Jaguar, Land-Rover, Bristol, Ginetta, Radical, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Toyota Auris and Avensis, Nissan Juke and Quashqai, MINI... all of these are built from scratch in the UK. If you're asking for a list of cars designed in the UK, MG, Mclaren, Bristol, Noble, Morgan, Aston Martin, Lotus, Jaguar, Land-Rover, Ginetta, Radical... need I go on?

Back on-topic: My personal opinion is Britain and Italy make the best cars in Europe. The German cars may be technically better, but they are soul-less and too clinical to be desirable to me, even their supercars are boring. The British and Italian cars have much more passion and are much more desirable to me, I would much rather own a fiery Ferrari or a relaxing Jaguar or an all-conquering Land-Rover than any Porsche, Audi or BMW.

The above is my opinion, don't mistake it for fact. Everyone likes different cars and I personally like British and Italian cars.
 
brambos
Ah.. we're going to play *that* game now.

<pedantic>
When I say Bauhaus, I obviously mean the German Modernist style of architecture heavily influenced by the Bauhaus school, with people such as Mies van der Rohe and Gropius. Indeed, I'm referring to the Neue Sachlichkeit, which is basically the same thing, but which deserves no further elaboration on a gaming website.
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And in my design circles we can appreciate the subtle, refined qualities of German design without having to resort to cocaine, thank you very much. :rolleyes:
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This was brilliant:cheers:
 
I'm not entirely sure why this thread has lasted as long as it has because it doesn't appear to actually pertain to GT5, but takes into account real life preferences. Not to mention "best" is an entirely subjective idea. As icing on the cake, this is just a breeding ground for insults based on location and/or stereotypes. Case closed.
 
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