Which is better? R34 or RS200?

Simply because 4WD cars are more stable during a slide because all four wheels are pushing and FR cars need countersteer input to avoid the front tyres from gripping.
 
Its not a 'style of drift racing.' Rally is alot different. They drift on loose soil to go faster. Tarmac is not loose soil. FR's are worse than 4WD's in dirt, yes. Thats why 4wd's rally alot..
 
Ok.
IMO, 4WD drifting is more enjoyable than FR drifting cuz you can pay more attention to the style and perfection than actually trying to hold the drift.
 
I never said I couldn't.
I'm saying one has to focus on the holding of the drift in an FR more than you do in an AWD.

Meaning, in an AWD you can focus more on the line and slide angles, resulting in a more visually impressive (perfect) drift. Not to mention, with all four wheels spinnig, it generates more smoke and noise ^_^
 
Actually, if you 'practice' you don't have to think about holding the drift. With the right inputs, the car can do anything you want it to do.
 
Yeah!

I would rather have a faster, more stylish and more consistent drift that I can appreciate WHILE I'M DOING IT.

Even if you practice and practice, you still have to think about holding the drift, which in turn takes away from being able to pay attention to the style.

Skill in drifting FR > Skill in drifting AWD

Enjoyment in drifting FR < Enjoyment in drifting AWD
 
Okay. You go practice practice and if you still have to think about holding the drift, I'd suggest just stop playing.
 
Cool.

Keep in mind, I've been drifting this same RS200 for weeks, tuning accordingly. This thing takes like a millisecond to shift and can transition from controlled grip driving to drift mode at my every whim.

Then I feel the urge to try out the R34 with sim tyres and in less than a few hours I can control this thing better that any car I've used.

This is a STOCK R34 with the exception of the tyres and rims.
 
Originally posted by Street Fighter
Yeah!

I would rather have a faster, more stylish and more consistent drift that I can appreciate WHILE I'M DOING IT.

Even if you practice and practice, you still have to think about holding the drift, which in turn takes away from being able to pay attention to the style.

Skill in drifting FR > Skill in drifting AWD

Enjoyment in drifting FR < Enjoyment in drifting AWD
If you practice enough, you can get to a point were you don't have to think about holding the drift, it just becomes second nature. I think your doing yourself a great disservice, if you don't try to get good at FR drifting. ;)
 
RWD Drifting, in my opinion is always going to be more impressive than AWD, so i would go with the RS200 over the R34 for drifting.

AWD drifting just seems wrong to me. It makes sense in a rally situation because you're dealing with loose soil, snow, etc. and you have very little traction to begin with, but it just doesn't seem right on pavement. You're basically taking a car that was designed specifically to give you amazing traction and you're trying to set it up so that you can slide it sideways, thus negating all that traction. It just seems wrong to me. I can't really explain it beyond that. :shrugs:


-Mark
 
Originally posted by Ethix101
RWD Drifting, in my opinion is always going to be more impressive than AWD, so i would go with the RS200 over the R34 for drifting.

AWD drifting just seems wrong to me. It makes sense in a rally situation because you're dealing with loose soil, snow, etc. and you have very little traction to begin with, but it just doesn't seem right on pavement. You're basically taking a car that was designed specifically to give you amazing traction and you're trying to set it up so that you can slide it sideways, thus negating all that traction. It just seems wrong to me. I can't really explain it beyond that. :shrugs:


-Mark
Exactly my thoughts. ;)
 
In my opinion:
RWD: more difficult and rewarding when able to drift a corner with the steering wheel opposite locked.

AWD: able to produce awesome angles, but opposite locking causes you to straighten your car and thus shortening your drifts.

I prefer RWD, because I think opposite lock drifts visually looks cooler.
 
Originally posted by Street Fighter
How can you not love the R34 though...
*drools*
The R34 is one of the easiest AWD cars to pick up and start drifting with, indeed. ALthough, if I am drifting AWD, I preffer the Evo VI TM, Impreza 22B, or Audi S4. Furthermore, I admit that AWD drifting is fun at times, but it cannot hold a candle to the feeling of accomplishment, when you perform a perfect, smooth, FR drift IMHO. ;)
 
Street Fighter... The R34 will never be as versatile of a drifter as the rs200 (which i wouldnt have picked but that is not in ?). In 4wd drifting the only reason you do not need to countersteer much or at all is becuase the front drive to the wheels is accomplishing hte same task as countersteering. Steeper angles may be easier to accomplish but the finesse that comes with fr adn mr will never come to you if you decide to give up on rear wheel drive altogether. I remember back in my beginning days i would drift the 400r and 22b. and i remember that 4wd cars gave me confidence to try less stable cars. The less stable the car you drift the better you will be which is why when you turn off tcs and asm and drift on slicks with a settup for just enough stability on the wet and rally tracks (j/k) you have reached the epitome of drifting.

If i can be of any help i would suggest that you stop trying to convince some of hte older members here to validate you choice of driving the r34 and just continue on your own path. There is no need to try and convince us all that your way is the best way. Just have fun and by having fun you will increase in skill.

that is just my 2 cents...
 
Honostly I think the only reason you like 4WD better is because you're not good enough on RWD yet. The ease of drifting a 4WD gives you a false sense of accomplishment and feeds your ego. Like I said before, 4WD is just a clutch and will only hinder your progression is you use just 4WD cars.

It's like riding a bike with training wheels.
 
I like drifting FR,but I am not to the point of being able to hold 4WD angles in an FR(at least I think I am not). about my favorite 4WD car to drift, I would have to say it is the Audi S4. that thing is great. but favorite FR.......would be........the....hmmmm. I can't think of what my favorite FR is. hmmm...odd. I kida like all FR's. hmmm, that is weird. the only person that can hold 4WD angles in an FR is CudaMan. he was literally perpindicular in some of the videos that I have seen from him. I am not sure if I have reached the maximum of the angles that you can hold in an FR, but if I am close or not can someone tell me. I am not to sure about my drifting. peace.
 
Originally posted by battle_stage
Honostly I think the only reason you like 4WD better is because you're not good enough on RWD yet. The ease of drifting a 4WD gives you a false sense of accomplishment and feeds your ego. Like I said before, 4WD is just a clutch and will only hinder your progression is you use just 4WD cars.

It's like riding a bike with training wheels.

Damn your truthful speaking...
My ego is now shattered.

lol

I used to think R34 lovers were newbies, but I don't even use it for what it's supposed to be used for. Yes, it's fun because it's easy(er) and faster and I can fantasize while drifting in because I will probably never drive a GTR.

What's wrong with the RS200?
 
Originally posted by XzifT
If you can't hold a drift in an FR, to be blunt, you suck.

I know this is a belated response, but I can drift laps around Trial Mountain without ever leaving the 'lane' I choose to drive in, making for a more lifelike experience considering you can't always leave your lane while drifting on a public road.

Trial Mountian 1&2 being my favorite courses just because there is a dotted line down the center of the entire track.

Back to FR's though..

What car is better than the RS200?
 
I just dislike the car in the game... not in real life ( and lets call it the IS300/altezza so we dont confuse it with the rally great). Its only my personal opinion but i think its poorly modelled... boom may disagree as he drives one every day, but i just cant believe in its characteristics. I would think it would be better balanced and such....
 
Ok honestly there is no overall car that is better than another. It all relies on personal opinion. While i would not have chosen the IS300 to drive in the game at all, many other would. I am sorry if what i said messed with your mind or something, it was just a personal opinion. I usually stick to mr cars like the speedster and elise and etc... But i in general love cars with medium power to weight ratios, and its even better if its a 300 hp light ass car. When it comes to fr i like the gts-t the rx-7's and a newly found love... the 180sx... that is just a couple of the cars i drift

once again its all personal opinion... so keep on doing what you are doing, becuase really it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks... they are your drifts and if you are good you are good.
 
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