Who cares about sim tires!

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MoNkEy_MaGiCx
ok here, get a 2000cc s13, add 2 way lsd, racing clutch and flywheel..and sims....try breaking that loose....with stock suspension and stock everything else...i have a vid coming up...once i get to toyotadrifters house....its not so easy to break loose....or keep sliding...try it out..i dont even know if what i just said is on topic but o wells... :crazy:
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Its easy to drift the s13 like that ,I drifted the first turn on Apricot and linked it all the way and I aslo drifted the big long turn that leads to the hairpin, All you need is some speed and the right amount of countersteer. It easy to keep this thing drifting.
 
Why does it seem so much easier to drift silvia's? can someone please tell me? My brother, Jazz95, drifts a silvia and he makes opposite lock look so simple! :banghead:
 
Swift
Why does it seem so much easier to drift silvia's? can someone please tell me? My brother, Jazz95, drifts a silvia and he makes opposite lock look so simple! :banghead:
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The Silvias are easy to drift because they are light and balanced..... Also, the CA18DET, and SR20DET have a good powerband, and are very responsive, which translates to ease of control.....


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silviadrifter
The Silvias are easy to drift because they are light and balanced..... Also, the CA18DET, and SR20DET have a good powerband, and are very responsive, which translates to ease of control.....


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Thanks! 💡
 
Ryen49
Its easy to drift the s13 like that ,I drifted the first turn on Apricot and linked it all the way and I aslo drifted the big long turn that leads to the hairpin, All you need is some speed and the right amount of countersteer. It easy to keep this thing drifting.
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yea well..it is pretty easy...but i bet some of the newbs here cant do it.. :dopey:
 
MoNkEy_MaGiCx
i know you are man, i know you are... :)
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I second that! Wait a minute....I'm probably more of a noob then you! :dunce:
 
Do you drifters ever stay on topic for more than two posts? Anyway, I find that using Sims on both rear and front to be just plain stupid, by running softer on the front you increase drifting ability, all IMHO that is. I guess everyone here likes sims because they make it possible to drift a stock japanese street car, hmmm..............
 
heero 12
Do you drifters ever stay on topic for more than two posts? Anyway, I find that using Sims on both rear and front to be just plain stupid, by running softer on the front you increase drifting ability, all IMHO that is. I guess everyone here likes sims because they make it possible to drift a stock japanese street car, hmmm..............
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:dopey: You know the funniest part! I started this thread and that's the funniest post so far!!!!
 
heero 12
Do you drifters ever stay on topic for more than two posts? Anyway, I find that using Sims on both rear and front to be just plain stupid, by running softer on the front you increase drifting ability, all IMHO that is. I guess everyone here likes sims because they make it possible to drift a stock japanese street car, hmmm..............
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Now you've done it..... Mixing tires..... "sigh".....

How many times do I have to explain it?......

Mixing tires does nothing other than creating an unbalanced vehicle..... If you are having trouble getting big angle, the problem is not the tires, but your technique......

Instead of mixing tires, you should be fixing the problem with tuning (or learning good technique)..... This keeps the balance of the vehicle intact (if you tune it right, that is)..... If you need help with technique, or tuning, I will be glad to help.....


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i use to mix tires and i can only drift the small turns and i posted a vid and everyone hated it , so i turn to battlestage and silviadrifter to help me out when i was in MD and it did work
 
My thoughts:

This is a video game. Everyone relax, sit back and review the circumstanses. The argument is about why using simulation tire in a viedeo game are better for drifting and whether or not using a certain type of tire is more challenging so obviously this is something to get worked up about...

On the sim tires issue:

I have used sim tires ever since I have started drifting it is my personal prferance.

When I drift i dont think about, heel toe, power-over, or any other technical terms when I drift. You all forget that drfting is drifing and it does not matter what tires you use as long as you are producing the results

Also drifting with sims is more than simply mashing the gas an no finesse. here is my typical drifting corner:

1.before the turn gently sway the car side to side in order to upset the cars balence and then apply the brakes to increase steering.

2. As the nose starts to point towards the apex, I begin to open up the throttle to keep the rear tires spining.

3. As i exit i completly open it and try to staiten out the car.

call me hack if you want.


As far as what real drifters do frankly I think that this is the way that many real-life drifters, drift. Case in pont the potiac GTO drift car, the driver ses the throttle exclusivly to control his drifts and never, ever uses the e-brake.

what was I talking about?
 
u were talking about the time where u got drunk in mexico and u found ur car ending up looking like a ricer
 
Anyway, I find that using Sims on both rear and front to be just plain stupid, by running softer on the front you increase drifting ability
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haha. i totally agree with silviadrifter. mixing tires shows lack of skills.

it does not matter what tires you use as long as you are producing the results
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drifting is a challenge of one's talents and skills while having fun, but just drifting with tires that makes it easy is not challenging nor fun. theres no pride when you dont have to work to achieve something that others will appreciate. its more than just producing results.
 
i used to mix tyres.... but i saw tha sim light haahhah bloody bright as well!
( i swear i keep missing the quick reply lol)
 
Well, I'm guessing that you all think I use E-brake, feint, and lift-off drifting right? well I don't, I'm still using the same method I used when I was getting my '95 GTO Twin Turbo literaly sideways on the high speed ring back in GT1, brake in the turn and steer hard left or right, mash the throttle for a little bit, counter steer, then mash out again. For this to work in GT3 I need to put softer tires on the front and adjust brake bias all the way up front as well. If you call me a n00b, or say this isn't the right way to drift, you are the n00b. There is no right way to drift, and I myself find using a driving technique that impress no one but me, yet is still really challanging, to piss me off a lot. So much in fact, that last time I spun out I nearly gave myself a concusion with my fist. Hence my making the game as easy as possible. I want to relax playing this game, not challenge myself.
 
heero 12
Well, I'm guessing that you all think I use E-brake, feint, and lift-off drifting right? well I don't, I'm still using the same method I used when I was getting my '95 GTO Twin Turbo literaly sideways on the high speed ring back in GT1, brake in the turn and steer hard left or right, mash the throttle for a little bit, counter steer, then mash out again. For this to work in GT3 I need to put softer tires on the front and adjust brake bias all the way up front as well. If you call me a n00b, or say this isn't the right way to drift, you are the n00b. There is no right way to drift, and I myself find using a driving technique that impress no one but me, yet is still really challanging, to piss me off a lot. So much in fact, that last time I spun out I nearly gave myself a concusion with my fist. Hence my making the game as easy as possible. I want to relax playing this game, not challenge myself.
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Ok, let's totally forget about technique. Why on God's green earth would you want to hit yourself in the head just for spinning out? I'm sorry bud, but that doesn't sound like a wise thing to do. Sure, we all get a bit upset when we spin or even worse....understeer a corner. But I don't think any of us would nearly hospitalize ourselves over a video game!

Like you said, it's a game. So why aren't you having fun.

BTW, since GT has become a better more complete and complex game over the years, you may want to adjust your technique a bit. I'm not ragging on you. But it sounds like you started drifting and old school Trueno and now you've got a sweet new RX-8(I'm not saying one is better then the other). The problem is you can't drift the RX-8 exactly the same way you drift a Trueno. Do you understand my analogy?
 
heero 12
Well, I'm guessing that you all think I use E-brake, feint, and lift-off drifting right? well I don't, I'm still using the same method I used when I was getting my '95 GTO Twin Turbo literaly sideways on the high speed ring back in GT1, brake in the turn and steer hard left or right, mash the throttle for a little bit, counter steer, then mash out again. For this to work in GT3 I need to put softer tires on the front and adjust brake bias all the way up front as well. If you call me a n00b, or say this isn't the right way to drift, you are the n00b. There is no right way to drift, and I myself find using a driving technique that impress no one but me, yet is still really challanging, to piss me off a lot. So much in fact, that last time I spun out I nearly gave myself a concusion with my fist. Hence my making the game as easy as possible. I want to relax playing this game, not challenge myself.
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Actually there are right ways (proven techniqes), and counterproductive ways to drift..... The way you are currently initiating and exiting your drifts, is quite counterproductive..... Also, the style you mentioned does not require mixing tires in any way.... Furthermore, a front biased brake setup does not have the effect, you might think it has. It causes more understeer than anything else (If you want to learn more, study physics)..... You have tricked yourself into thinking these things, which is quite common..... If you don't want to improve your drifting, by all means don't learn good technique/settings/tuning.... If you want to improve, you're going to need to open your mind, and stop calling proven setups/technique stupid... It makes you seam very ignorant......

Also, if you are hitting yourself in the head when you spin out, then maybe GT3 isn't the game for you.... Also, maybe you could benifit from some anger management classes.....

If you want help with technique/settings/tuning, I will be more than happy to, just let me know.....


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Yeah, SD makes some good points. That's what I thought about the brake bias, but I'm not experienced enough to be able to just say, "that's the hard way" anyway, it took me two weeks to find a car and a tuning setup where I could drift even somewhat consistently. So, Heero, maybe you should explore other vehicles/tunings.
 

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