Who cares about sim tires!

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lol, stan. Why are almost all the newbs like this? Well, the answer is they are Noobs. lol Ignorant in the ways of drifting. But they shall learn... in time..
 
Gabkicks
lol, stan. Why are almost all the newbs like this? Well, the answer is they are Noobs. lol Ignorant in the ways of drifting. But they shall learn... in time..
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Aye, ignorant as I was only two months ago. I've still got a ridiculous amount to learn. I still can't believe I started this incredibly newb thread. I'm really glad I've gotten over this issue. 💡
 
I think that it's gonna be one of those threads thats always going to re-appear from time to time its a question which you only learn through experience
 
I think other tires are fun to drift w/ also. But i feel like sims deffinately require more skill. But it depends on what ur trying to do... I even used to mix tires when i first started drifting, but that made the car so unstable my drifts looked crazy and not smooth at all. But w/ sims and a wheel good drifts look almost too effortless... which they might be able to fix in the next gt...


Lol, what im trying to say iz im too cocky.. lol. I honestly cant wait to get my @$$ kicked by silvia and busta in gt4. :)
 
It depends on the car just like everyone has said can't wait for gt4 either
 
Most people don't realise that every HP and tire combo will feel the same if balanced correctly..... Meaning, a car with 200hp on sims will handle relatively the same as a car with 430hp on normals if you balance the HP, Torque, Weight, and Tire correctly....

My 460hp S14 on normals handles almost exactly the same as my 240hp S14 on sims, the only difference being that one is faster.... So, what it comes down to is learning to balance everything, not what tire you choose.....

Lol, what im trying to say iz im too cocky.. lol. I honestly cant wait to get my @$$ kicked by silvia and busta in gt4.
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Are you refering to Busta Rhymes, or Bustwave?....lol...


;)
 
Swift
Much gear? what does that mean.

Uh, I keep the revs pretty high. You have to stay in the powerband to have good control. Once you're in the drift with a FR it's all about countersteer and throttle control. If you're not in the powerband, you loose one of your forms of control over the drift.
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Well, here's where stock car terminology works backwards:

*The more gear you run, the higher your engine revs at the end of the track's longest straightaway...

So, if you have a Camaro Z/28 that's at 5,000 rpm at 170 mph the end of the Grand Valley Straight, you'd be running less gear than if the car was to be at 6,000 rpm at the same speed.

Confusing, huh?
 
Victor Vance
Well, here's where stock car terminology works backwards:

*The more gear you run, the higher your engine revs at the end of the track's longest straightaway...

So, if you have a Camaro Z/28 that's at 5,000 rpm at 170 mph the end of the Grand Valley Straight, you'd be running less gear than if the car was to be at 6,000 rpm at the same speed.

Confusing, huh?
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Ok, but how does that apply to the tires that you're using to drift with?
 
Swift
Ok, but how does that apply to the tires that you're using to drift with?
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I think what he means by more gear is longer gear ratios?

This doesn't apply to drift, shorter gear ratios are better suited for drifting as you can stay in the maximum torque range.
Dunno if this helps you for the game, but real drifters would prefer shorter gear ratios.

Probably because most people are crap and can't use throttle control on sims, so the longer gear ratios the slower the car revs up, easier for people to control.
 
RyosukeFCDS
I think what he means by more gear is longer gear ratios?

This doesn't apply to drift, shorter gear ratios are better suited for drifting as you can stay in the maximum torque range.
Dunno if this helps you for the game, but real drifters would prefer shorter gear ratios.

Probably because most people are crap and can't use throttle control on sims, so the longer gear ratios the slower the car revs up, easier for people to control.
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yeah, that's true. I much prefer shorter gear ratios. It helps to you go slower(important in drifting) and keeps you in the powerband more easily.
 
I always found it hard to drift longer w/ racing tires, or any other tires besides sim tires. I think using SIM tires is a lot more fun since you really have to pay attention to throttle control while drifting. Using the well designed pedals on the DFP really helped in this aspect-
 
undien717
I always found it hard to drift longer w/ racing tires, or any other tires besides sim tires. I think using SIM tires is a lot more fun since you really have to pay attention to throttle control while drifting. Using the well designed pedals on the DFP really helped in this aspect-
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Yes, sims are probly the most practical tires used in drifting for GT3 or even real life. They have all around balance and help you extend your drifts.
 
divine_monk
lol. this thread keeps going in circles.
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It really does. Well, hopefully someone will learn, like I did, that sims are best for learning and mixing tires is bad. 👎
 
IMO, I find Sim tires as the best to use for drifting. Sim tires on a RGT, total drifting action.IMO of course.
 
The n00bs that use tyre mixing for exhibition drifting is what i'm talking about. Mixing tyres to race drift is altogether a different subject :D
 
Gabkicks
Let the damn thread die. Stickie it and force all the noobs to read this thread. lol.
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Heh heh. that would be cool. But I honestly don't believe this thread is good enough to be sticky. But if someone wanted to make a thread about how tires effect drifting, kinda like a "Drift Tires Guide", that would make more sense.

BTW, I figured out why all the noobs mix tires..... 💡 Because that's how it is on the majority of the setting in the drift settings depots! So of course, we say "Look at the Settings Depot!" So they look at the setting depot, it says to mix tires...."they're just following our instructions" and then we rag on them after they've practiced for two weeks with mixing and then have questions as to why the can't get the angles, smoothness length they want. What's the first thing we say? "Stop mixing tires!" :grumpy:

So, it's kind a circle. :indiff: We need to fix the settings depot or put a disclaimer on it or something. IT's really not fair to the noobs that are coming here and actually want to learn about good technique. And there actually have been a good amount of those types of noobs lately.

What do you all think?
 
I never read the Setting depot so I wouldn't know... But truly IMO, Noobs should not be scabbing settings anyway... they have to find their own settings to adjust to their own styles...
 
MdnIte
I never read the Setting depot so I wouldn't know... But truly IMO, Noobs should not be scabbing settings anyway... they have to find their own settings to adjust to their own styles...
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RX-7 FD Drifter
Sims will teach you wat is called Throttle control very quickly
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I agree and I agree.

However, when you're brand new and don't know anything about drifting in GT3 why not take someone elses settings. That's what I did. :guilty: I simply figured you HAD to put on those settings or it wouldn't work. But of course I realize that this is not the case. So I can understand why new people would be mixing tires when starting. :cool:
 
No they are not.... They are for the people that wish to drift longer, and better... my 8 year old brother can drift using sims..
 
just a newb statement. what he meant to say was that all the really good people prefer sims.
 
RyosukeFCDS
I think what he means by more gear is longer gear ratios?

This doesn't apply to drift, shorter gear ratios are better suited for drifting as you can stay in the maximum torque range.
Dunno if this helps you for the game, but real drifters would prefer shorter gear ratios.

Probably because most people are crap and can't use throttle control on sims, so the longer gear ratios the slower the car revs up, easier for people to control.
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If I wasz crap and didn't use throttle I'd use traction control, if you run little gear, about 1,000 off the powerband through the corner you're drifting, you have a decent amount of time under WOT before the engine picks up and overspins the rear tires. If you drove a full blown C4 like this you'd understand the importance of tall gears...
 

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