who thinks forza 3 beat gran turismo 5?

[goku loves gt]

i had to ask this somewhere

 

[Cosbuster]

Really, they're very different games focusing on different things. Forza is better than GT on certain aspects while GT is better than Forza on others.

 

[M3peat]

^^^^^What he/she said^^^^^^

 

[Turbonutter]

I think if you cherry-picked aspects of the two titles and combined them, you'd have one heck of a game. As a *game* I'd have to give the nod to Forza, but as a *sim* GT has it beat hands-down. The physics are just way too loose in Forza.

 

[GT_Prologue5]

Just pick a side and play. Make fun of the other side while sitting on your couch.

 

[jac31k]

Asking this question on a GT forum, you already know the answer!

Im sure if you went to a forza forum they'd prefer forza!

 

[Lillee]

For me I am a car guy so anything other than simulation is rated as "mario kart". Forza sounds like it's in the Mario Kart bucket no matter how many features it has more than GT5

 

[Parker]

I love the Forza series, but I personally enjoy the Gran Turismo series more. I think Forza 2 was the best in the series, it seems like I played that one the longest, and I got bored with Forza 3 rather quickly.

 

[goku loves gt]

well how about this then were any of you disappointed when they took out certain tracks?

 

[Seren77]

I prefer the actual driving in gt5, forza does most the other things better though

 

[goku loves gt]

I prefer the actual driving in gt5, forza does most the other things better though

like what?

 

[Ya Pops]

Car selection, tuning/upgrades, painting, car classes, test drive, stock cars available in arcade/online, etc.. There's more. can't be bothered right now. This thread will go on forever anyway.

GT5 has it on physics and graphics along with nice touches like weather and time plus being able to use a decent steering wheel on ps3.
Forza's physics, while not perfect, are nowhere near the need for speed category that some try to make out.

 

[Centura]

This is not going to end well.

Both are good games. Why can it not be left there?

 

[Terronium-12]

As has already been said, Forza 3 does some things better than GT5, and GT5 does some things better than Forza 3.

Both are fantastic games.

 

[cygnus_zero]

I cant really think of 1 single thing GT5 does better than Forza 3. I think GT5 is a good game, but there are many aspects of Forza 3 I think are better.

2 of which are 2 of the most important things to me in a racing sim, aside of course from the physics/handling which feel equal to me in both games. But they are damage and AI, Forza 3 nails both of these things.

If you rear end someone in forza doing 60mph, you wont win. You'll see the diagram on screen showing you your car has suffered mechanical damage. Not only that, but they deduct from your winnings if you even can finish the race. You rear end someone in GT5 doing 150mph, you might get a scratch. So In forza I had to drive careful in smart, in GT5 I just mash everyone out of the way straight to victory. This is an arcade racer with some tuning options. Forza is much more realistic.

And the AI, the AI in Forza 3 is almost human-like intelligent. In fact its pretty tough to tell the difference between them and other humans. In GT5 they dont even know your there. And not only that, but they do stupid things all the time. I was on the Indy track last night, I saw a car slam on his brakes on a straight with noone around him. Never saw anything close to that in Forza.

Also bugs me how in forza I can change my brakes and do engine swaps, and paint my cars if I want with the editor, only thing GT5 does in this area that you cant do in forza is change the horn. Thanks Kaz.

So yeah, I definitely know in my mind which game is better.

 

[Anes]

You noobs are incredibly irritating.

i had to ask this somewhere

/facepalm.

As if there isn't a massive fanboy thread already on GTP.

 

[BestWorstRacer]

I feel that Forza 3 has a smoother feel to it compared to GT5.... a little ragged. Don't get me wrong, GT5's quality is superb but there is something about it that makes me think that it feels stiff.

Campaign-wise, GT5 is way better than Forza 3. The overall mechanics is just way better and you feel like you are pursuing something because you have to level up. In Forza, you get free cars and to the next class? I don't remember. It's been a long time since I played Forza 3. I got to level 50 within 36% game progress.

Also, since I am a controller user (not like most of you who have DFGT or G27 or others) I find that the xbox 360 controller is better suited in controlling the braking and the throttling of the car due to the triggers. With the DS3, it feels like I can only go one way or the other. It's hard to control the throttle and braking. Yes, yes, yes, I should get a wheel.... but do I have $100 to $300 to spare? No.

In the end, there are certain aspects Forza 3 is better than GT5 and then vice-versa.

 

[cygnus_zero]

I feel that Forza 3 has a smoother feel to it compared to GT5.... a little ragged. Don't get me wrong, GT5's quality is superb but there is something about it that makes me think that it feels stiff.

Campaign-wise, GT5 is way better than Forza 3. The overall mechanics is just way better and you feel like you are pursuing something because you have to level up. In Forza, you get free cars and to the next class? I don't remember. It's been a long time since I played Forza 3. I got to level 50 within 36% game progress.

Also, since I am a controller user (not like most of you who have DFGT or G27 or others) I find that the xbox 360 controller is better suited in controlling the braking and the throttling of the car due to the triggers. With the DS3, it feels like I can only go one way or the other. It's hard to control the throttle and braking. Yes, yes, yes, I should get a wheel.... but do I have $100 to $300 to spare? No.

In the end, there are certain aspects Forza 3 is better than GT5 and then vice-versa.

You dont have to get a wheel just for that. Use the right stick for throttle and braking, it works great.

 

[goku loves gt]

i wanna close this now. i just wanted to see if anybody still loves gt5 even though it has the flaws

 

[EFFalcon]

I cant really think of 1 single thing GT5 does better than Forza 3. I think GT5 is a good game, but there are many aspects of Forza 3 I think are better.

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If you rear end someone in forza doing 60mph, you wont win. You'll see the diagram on screen showing you your car has suffered mechanical damage. Not only that, but they deduct from your winnings if you even can finish the race. You rear end someone in GT5 doing 150mph, you might get a scratch. So In forza I had to drive careful in smart, in GT5 I just mash everyone out of the way straight to victory.

In Forza, if you run into someone doing 150mph, and trash your car, you press one button, rewind and try again, as many times as you like.
Theres no pressure, you stuff up, you can undo it.
GT5, you stuff up, you risk losing the race.

as everyones already said, Forza does do somethings better, and i'm sure Forza 4 will blow us all away as they play catchup on the features PD has already put in GT5.

Forza 4 could have the potential to truly out do GT, which will be a shame because of the limited steering wheel support.

 

[BestWorstRacer]

You dont have to get a wheel just for that. Use the right stick for throttle and braking, it works great.

Nope, tried that one. It is possible.... if you don't mind being a few seconds off the target mark you're trying to achieve.

 

[Ya Pops]

You dont have to get a wheel just for that. Use the right stick for throttle and braking, it works great.

I dunno man.. Once you've used decent triggers, analogue sticks just don't cut it. Depends what you're used to I guess.

 

[Ya Pops]

Forza 4 could have the potential to truly out do GT, which will be a shame because of the limited steering wheel support.

Seriously, I recently got rid of the MS wheel. They really need to fix up.

 

[MeechShrykull]

Well the prize car system is one oDthe most important parts of the game for me and although most prize cars in GT5 are purchasable there are exceptions (ie Red Bull and some S2000s so GT still wins.

 

[Starfirebird]

I say, who cares.

Some will like FM3 and some will like GT5.

It never ends with the comparisons and truthfully it's getting old.Seriously,just play what you like

 

[BobElHat]

Well, there are only 10 000 people in the world who can make a fair comparison, because that's how many 360 compatible wheels Fanatec have made. The Microsoft wheel is just awful.

Forza is a better game in most respects - more options, better data, more closely matched AI, damage that actually matters, good PP-style system. Kaz would do well to spend a week playing Forza to steal a few ideas.

Where it fell down for me was the way the game was designed - no practice or qualifying from the pre-race menu screams "arcade game" to me. Then GT5 went and did exactly the same thing.

I rate GT5 physics higher, though it's hard to make a fair comparison with the crappy MS wheel.

I found it quite boring quite fast though. It just seems to turn into a grind when all you're achieving is a higher level. At least GT5 makes you work to get exotic cars so you've something to aim for. Forza may have more events, but nothing really made me want to do them. GT5's career mode is more rewarding and varied.

I finally gave up on Forza when I realised that despite turning off all aids it was still helping me catch slides (with the data display up you can see it turn the wheel for you). I haven't played it since noticing that, there doesn't seem to be any point.

 

[mavidatt]

I cant really think of 1 single thing GT5 does better than Forza 3. I think GT5 is a good game, but there are many aspects of Forza 3 I think are better.

2 of which are 2 of the most important things to me in a racing sim, aside of course from the physics/handling which feel equal to me in both games. But they are damage and AI, Forza 3 nails both of these things.

If you rear end someone in forza doing 60mph, you wont win. You'll see the diagram on screen showing you your car has suffered mechanical damage. Not only that, but they deduct from your winnings if you even can finish the race. You rear end someone in GT5 doing 150mph, you might get a scratch. So In forza I had to drive careful in smart, in GT5 I just mash everyone out of the way straight to victory. This is an arcade racer with some tuning options. Forza is much more realistic.

And the AI, the AI in Forza 3 is almost human-like intelligent. In fact its pretty tough to tell the difference between them and other humans. In GT5 they dont even know your there. And not only that, but they do stupid things all the time. I was on the Indy track last night, I saw a car slam on his brakes on a straight with noone around him. Never saw anything close to that in Forza.

Also bugs me how in forza I can change my brakes and do engine swaps, and paint my cars if I want with the editor, only thing GT5 does in this area that you cant do in forza is change the horn. Thanks Kaz.

So yeah, I definitely know in my mind which game is better.

Totally agree here, however, gt5 may have slightly better physics, but is definately not as approachable as forza 3 is. Forza 3 has more customization and tuning than gt5, which is a shame especially on the tuning part considering gt5 calls itself the real simulator( plus no break upgrades, what the heck?). Forza 3 has damage right from the begining and allows you to test drive any car in arcade, while gt5 only gives u a handful which to say the least is pretty stupid.

Overall though Forza 3 is a complete game and does not feel as rushed as GT5. GT5 is pretty decent however it feels like pd through a bunch of crap in and said ok stamp it, like they didnt have a well executed plan on what they were going to do with this gam, while Forza 3 is well organized and easy to navigate and feels much more like a complete game.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

This should be posted in the Forza 3 subforums:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=215

I think it's a little bit too volatile to be posted here. There's also an existing discussion on the subject:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=132607

Thread closed.