Who thinks GT4 sucks?

[Driftster]

Go take your stock street car on a track and come back to me with the second half of that statement. Going from driving a 02 GTI 1.8T at HPDEs (High Performance Drivers Education Events) and driving one in this game with simalar mods, it's almost scary how close it is to handling like the real thing. With S2 tires it brakes, rolls, and understeers just like the real car does. I'm sure the people who have taken their cars to a road course appreacite this game much more then the avrage joe would. I know me and my friends are going to be using this as a tool to pratice our race lines and learing how to control lift off etc..

The funny thing is I HAVE taken my car to the local course...Phoenix interntational raceway......And I have driven other cars AT that road course. And I still don't agree with the physics....Maybe it's right for a Jetta/Golf...But I don't drive VW's....

As for all this talk about the "REAL DRIVING SIMULATOR"...Until they can devize a way for the body to feel g's....It's a GAME.....And game's that STRIVE to be something more than a GAME is just like spitting in the face of all other developers saying they're better than everyone else...When they're not..

As for AI...I've yet to encounter any cases of "driver agression" like I did in GT3......But maybe i've yet to progress far enough.....


+ the money issue still sucks....
You should be able to have a mode to test the cars out w/ whichever mod you like...not "unlocking" crap or having limitless funds.....neither support the idea of it being a "Real driving simulator"

 

[Max_DC]

evrything you said ( in order to save space)

Well, all in all a better time management would no have been the worst idea for PD, you're right, but

Capturing a car took a single person 2-3 weeks, I think you agree that this fact keeps people busy... and since GT is about cars, that might be more important than the online thing.
And ok time is the factor here, but there are not many games out there that can be compared with GT. OK maybe Burnout 3 is a better polished sequel( with a great online mode) than Gt4 , but hey ! How many cars? how many tracks ( and look at the
precision of the Nürburgring)? Gt is just so much bigger than most games in all genres... that can't be comparted with a tactic shooter...
And PD has no experience with online gaming, they want to be perfect, and since GT4 without the online mode is not perfect, it is obvious that it didn't work in the end... And I don't want to wait another 6 months for a onlinemode...
Ok they have anounced it, that is a point....well, sometimes you realize late, that it just doesn't work (ut a huge delay),, and that is not autmatically the result of a managing failure....

 

[Duke]

go argue with your mother you b*tchass,you still don't get it

I don't get it either. And if you keep making posts like this, you won't get a chance to explain any further. Got it? If you can't take a discussion where people might disagree, don't get into one.

Everybody go read sukerkin's post a few posts up. Then listen to the man.

I'm closing this and seriously considering recycling this entire thread since despite every attempt to make a decent discussion, the True Believers insist on trying to torch anyone who doesn't worship at the altar of Polyphony Digital. And a certain number of infidels insist on trying to torch the True Believers in retaliation.