Who's faster Lotus 97T vs Formula Gran Turismo

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It really depends on the track. The FGT has more mechanical grip and lower drag, but the 97T has the power/weight ratio and downforce. Twisty tracks or tracks with short/mid straights let the 97T excel for me. Tracks with more low speed corners or long straights are better for the FGT for me. I don't have any lap times memorized, however.
 
I can't come close to any of theFGT lap times with the Lotus no mather what track I use. Not even on a twisty tracks. I'm an average player an maybe I don't know how to drive the Lotus properly, but even then I highly doubt that with proper driving the Lotus can catch the FGT.
Edit:some of my lap times Lotus vs FGT(racing soft)
Monza '80: 1:19:549 vs 1:14:889
Willow Springs: 1:00:345 vs 55:764
Autumn Ring: 1:02:467 vs 58:210
 
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Close ratio gearbox of FGT and Lotus' turbo lag is main factors for Lotus losing time low traction when on the exit of a slow corner or not nailing the pedal for the fear of turbo power coming fast. NA engine is much better for precision driving and better grip out of corners.
 
I tested the Formula GT against the Lotus 97T, the Lotus 97T has more horsepower, but less grip and more "drag", which makes it slower than the Formula GT. The Formula GT has more grip, less drag and more speed and acceleration, but less horsepower.
 
Just doing a comparison the first two days when the 97T was released, it needs more downforce than the FGT to achieve similar cornering speeds and the FGT has better low-speed cornering because, I believe, it has a tighter steering ratio. Higher downforce means lower top speed, so the extra horsepower on the 97T means nothing when you have it cranked over half on front & rear.

For those who use driving aids, TCS on these cars favors the FGT with the 7-speed because of lower ratios on 1st & 2nd over the 5-speed of the 97T. To adjust the 5-speed close to similar, you will have to stretch the other gears and shifting will suffer because of it. For a track car, the FGT is the all-around winner. That being said the 97T, when tuned without TCS & with moderate downforce, does show significantly higher straight-line grip over the FGT. The major problem with sustaining that grip is, once again, the sub-par 5-speed which causes gaps in power from shift lag and can make the car power-skid and spin out.

It's a beautiful car, and was probably the best technology of its time, but outdated now and can't compete with the newer and better suited FGT.
 
I would like to know this as well. A few of us were trying to figure this out, but tough to tell how much power needs to be cut from the FGT to get them close.

If anyone has lap times for comparison, that'd be great. I chose three very different tracks to dial in my 97T and these are my times, if someone can post up their FGT times on the same circuits:

ABS1, RS tires on all times

Spa - 1:44/1:55s
Monza 1:16s
Monaco - 1:17/1:18s
High Speed Ring - Sub 50s, haven't tested there again since I finished setting the car up.

I bought an FGT, but I haven't felt like tuning it. I spent all week on the Lotus. I guess I'll have to set it up eventually.

Right now racing the 97T online sucks, because people see the top time in the bottom corner when they enter the track for the first time in said room and leave it immediately. So...it's tough to get races going with more than two or three people consistantly.
 
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In my Expierence With 0 aids the fgt is faster, harder to drive but usually faster. The lotus is more fun though.
 
The brakes and the gearing on the fgt help it a lot. It can be set a bit lower too, which helps with aero big time.
 
I host an online lobby from time to time with both cars racing against each other. The FGT is nowhere near as nice to drive but both cars are comparable around a lap if you get it right in both.
 
This thread is about the Lotus vs the FGT but I've recorded a time with the 97t faster than the Redbull Fan Car. It was around Matterhorn (Longest Configuration). Not the best at that track though. Will have to try at a more standard F1 type track
 
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This thread is about the Lotus vs the FGT but I've recorded a time with the 97t faster than the Redbull Fan Car. It was around Matterhorn (Longest Configuration). Not the best at that track though. Will have to try at a more standard F1 type track
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The Red Bull Fan car will always be faster by 30 secs a lap on most tracks. :odd: The standard laps about 3-4 secs faster than the FGT & 97T.
 
Just looked at the times, the Fan Car lap must have been terrible. And it was the Riffelsee configuration.

1:08.713 Lotus 97t
1:09.631 RedBull Fan Car
1:15.019 R18 TDi

Not my best track as I struggle to get consistent clean laps.
 
Raced online earlier with half the guys in FGT and half in the Lotus 97t - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th were taken by the FGT's at Spa.
 
GTP_Jimbobo
Raced online earlier with half the guys in FGT and half in the Lotus 97t - 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th were taken by the FGT's at Spa.
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I think the FGT has it, but experiences like this may not be all that conclusive. The Lotus is new and [essentially] free, making it rather common; while the FGT has been around, costs a cool two million, and doesn't have that fully-realized cockpit view. Of course if all in contention are experienced "lifers" who have both at their disposal and the skill to get the most out of them, this reasoning may go right out the window. So to sum up: The FGT is likely faster for the most part (not getting into location and conditions) and the Lotus brings along myriad other factors that only serve to increase the gap.
 
We are talking about lap times right? No, just asking becouse sometimes I get confused.
The FGT is faster with both in the same condition(no aids,same tyre,same track condition) no mather what track you chose. Try it, belive it.
 
sosa
We are talking about lap times right? No, just asking becouse sometimes I get confused.
The FGT is faster with both in the same condition(no aids,same tyre,same track condition) no mather what track you chose. Try it, belive it.
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Try different tunes on the 97T, it is very possible to keep up with the FGT in the 97T.
 
I haven't really tried out the FGT in GT6, let alone compared the two.

But if you crank up the downforce, do an oil change, and tune the gearbox accordingly, there is no way the Lotus can keep up at any track, no matter what tune you use.

If you can keep up with your FGT times with anything else than a Red Bull car, you're not pushing the FGT very hard guys.
 
sosa
We are talking about lap times right? No, just asking becouse sometimes I get confused.
The FGT is faster with both in the same condition(no aids,same tyre,same track condition) no mather what track you chose. Try it, belive it.
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Indeed. By a minimum of 1-2 seconds everywhere.
 
I will say that the FGT is better, is newer. But there are things that i dont understand. The 97T and the Standard have the same aerodynamics levels (up to 1500-2000 both) but when you turn at any curve, the standard has a better performance (same set for both)... why???
 
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I will say that the FGT is better, is newer. But there are things that i dont understand. The 97T and the Standard have the same aerodynamics levels (up to 1500-2000 both) but when you turn at any curve, the standard has a better performance (same set for both)... why???
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I don't think the Lotus has ground effect aero, the FGT likely does, and the Standard most definitely does, along with the best chassis of the three.
 

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