Why can't everything be turbocharged

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Hey everyone this got way more serious than i thought it would i was bored and wanted to start a thread. I really just wanted to know what cars you guys thought needed to be turbocharged that can't be. I did not think it would turn into a mock fest.
 
I remember the first GT game allowed something called N/A tuning on cars which couldn't be equipped with turbo. I'm not sure if there were exceptions to that rule or maybe I remember it all wrong. I can't remember how it was in the GT games in between 1 and 5.
 
N/A tuning is Normally Aspirated or Naturally Aspirated. Means that the induction of air is not forced. In real life this would mean extending the stroke, installing high lift cams, boring out the engine to increase displacement, balancing the moving parts, polishing the ports, installing high flow fuel pumps etc.
It does not make as big a difference to a small engine as a turbo does but is extremely effective on large cc engines.
My rover vitesse is 150 BHP standard and is now 410 bhp with no turbo!
 
berty1979
In real life you can turbocharge any car but its not as simple as strapping a turbo on. It involves changing to lower compression pistons. Increase cooling and lots of other components must be changed. In a way its like fitting a new engine. Im glad you cant turbocharge everything as your much more likely to find a large cc engine with a supercharger instead. There is my 2pence worth :)
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I would love to have a turbocharged Viper ACR or a Tank car. :lol:

@Nielsen and berty1979 Subject: N/A tuning
Isnt that just the engine mods (stg 1,2,3) in the tuning shop?
 
sniper338
Why can I add a supercharger to the Ford Lightining and Cobra? They come from the factory with them already installed but I can put a second one on.
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The Cobra in the game did not come supercharged from the factory. The 2000 Cobra R (there wasn't a normal Cobra in 2000, only the Cobra R (about 300 built)) had a N/A 5.4 L in it. The supercharged Cobras began in 2003.

Back to the original topic. There are many aftermarket turbo kits readily available for most all Mustangs, and most all popular cars, so I agree that they should be available in the game.
 
gouge
So your saying in real life I could not put a turbocharger on a ISF
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Some engines are less suited to be blown. I don't know the specifics of that motor but if it's already really high strung, with a high compression ratio and thin cylinder walls, then putting a turbo on it would be a BAD idea.
 
Twilight
In the real world, you can turbocharge any internal combustion engine.
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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Since GT5 doesn't feature any penalties for abusing and destroying engines by poorly modifying them, they simply prevented you from making the stupid mistake in the first place.
 
iamsupernasty
Some engines are less suited to be blown. I don't know the specifics of that motor but if it's already really high strung, with a high compression ratio and thin cylinder walls, then putting a turbo on it would be a BAD idea.
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Yeah the ISF actually has twin turbo and single turbo kits for it on the market that run fine with it. Yet I see what you mean this may not qualify for all cars. I think PD in general thinks that a car with a V8 or V10 must run supercharged if a street car, but if it's V6, I6, Flat 6, Flat 4, I4 it should run a turbo. Not sure what their thinking is on this maybe because there is more supercharged V8s than turbocharge or what...but just cause it is a V8 doesn't mean it should have a supercharger.
 
I was bored and Supercharged a Chevrolet Matiz in real life; I don't see why Supercharging and Turbocharging is available for every car if honest. If the charger of choice is added, I'd have thought for the price paid, new parts would be included to lower the compression ratio if needed >_>
 
I havnt read this entire thread, and I'm sure somebody answered the same as I will. The correct answer is because Honda, or Ferrari, or whoever doesn't want them to be in the game. Same reason for the amount of "standard" cars in the game that are clearly NOT standard. ie the veyron. Can't put wheels on it, can't put any aero on it, etc... Reason being that Bugatti wants its car to look a certain way. Period. I would even guess that the "premium" cars fetch a pretty big premium from PD.
People will try and tell u it's about compression ratios, or how the real car wasn't turbocharged, or blah blah blah... It's about money and them taking five years to produce a game. They had a deadline, and they knew it. That's why the game feels unfinished.
Money money money... Makes the world go round, brotha.
 
uncle_hayley_j
i was bored and supercharged a chevrolet matiz in real life; i don't see why supercharging and turbocharging is available for every car if honest. If the charger of choice is added, i'd have thought for the price paid, new parts would be included to lower the compression ratio if needed >_>
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was?
 
Sander 001
Trust me you don't want to turbocharge everything. I turbocharged my vacuum cleaner so it would clean faster but then it sucked up my carpet and my cat.
RIP Ms. Patsy
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Things you don't want turbo'd - 1.) dildos 2.) baby strollers 3.) babies 4.) turkey sandwiches 5.) BBQ sauce
 
Yeah man. This is crap PD! I want a turbo on my Tesla!


:lol:




I kid, I kid.
 
sniper338
Why can I add a supercharger to the Ford Lightining and Cobra? They come from the factory with them already installed but I can put a second one on.
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The Cobra does not have a supercharger from the factory. It has a naturally aspirate 4 valve 5.4 liter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_SVT_Cobra#2000_Cobra_R

As for the Lightning, it's as if you were swapping the stock Eaton for a more efficient Whipple or Kenne Bell, just as they do in real life.


As for the OP, I think it has to do with the makers of Gran Turismo having some misconception that V8s can't be turboed. I can't think of any V8 in the game that can be turboed save for the R390 GT1.

Sometimes I think Kaz Yam is one of those people who thinks he knows cars, but in reality knows very little (like many of the people on this site).
 
^^^^^^^ Exactly I want 1000 HP SKYLINE VS SUPRA BATTLES AGAIN

I say we Riot lets all rent a ship and go to japan...I'll make the signs for us all.;)
 
Why can't everything be turbocharged?
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Because naturally-aspirated engines are sexier. Chicks dig cars that don't sound like vacuum cleaners.
 
iamsupernasty
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Since GT5 doesn't feature any penalties for abusing and destroying engines by poorly modifying them, they simply prevented you from making the stupid mistake in the first place.
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This is the most absurd application of logic I have seen in defense of GT5 in a long while.
 
Toronado
This is the most absurd application of logic I have seen in defense of GT5 in a long while.
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I agree with Toronado, it's a game and not real life where you have the issue of making the incorrect choices. If that were the case the game would give us no direction in the first place. Anyways Toronado makes a good point.
 
sins1er
BOOM. this is why I bought an s2000. Sexiest engine I ever heard...
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...when I think N/A the last thing I'm thinking is a Honda. I'd lean more toward a LS7 Vette, Ferrari V8s, Dodge 6.4L engines. That stuff NA sounds amazing. I'd even go far enough to say a 370z sounds more sexy than the S2000.
 
what I find annoying is the fact that I cant fit a supercharger on my lotus evora, when lotus just released an evora S. 'S' is for supercharger.
 

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