Why do people use X as gas, D pad for steering in gt5?

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I'm confused, I know that is the standard set up but I've never understood who would want on off gas and on off steering? I see a lot of people saying they can't beat events and what not and that's the setup they use.

Who actually uses this and prefers it? Better yet, who thinks it's an advantage?

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Back in the day before dual sticks or wheels, us GT players had to use X and Square buttons and a D-Pad to control the cars in the game. We only had one controller, and we had to share it. Barefoot. In the snow. Uphill both ways. In the dark. And we liked it. Some of us moved on to wheels and such, but a select few still find comfort in their old ways. The disadvantages are many. The only 'real' advantage is familiarity.
 
I do this and I am aware that using L2/R2 for brake and gas would be more efficient and using L3 to steer would be more accurate, but I for one, have played GT since the start way back when... and that's how it was done back in the days of the PS1 when there was no analogue stick, I don't even think L2/R2 were progressive. So that's how I learnt to play games and how I still do today, with the exception of FPS.

I have tried playing GT with L3 but I can't be delicate enough with it, especially for right turns. It's not what I'm good at using and I can't get used to it. However there are a few occasions when I do use it. X1 on Indy for example (all left turns) and the odd sweeping left hander on any other track, just for a change.

As for using L2/R2, I can't, not for the same reason, just because I hated it in Need For Speed and I hate it now. I think most of us can be pretty precise with the D-Pad and face buttons, usually just makes for a lot of tap tap tap.
 
evolve or become extinct.

Repositioning throttle and brakes to L2 and R2 not only is relatable to real pedals but also gives you the advantage of always having a finger attending them and lets you drive more aggressively

i.e. this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-foot_braking

No comment on the analog stick, the benefits should be self evident
 
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The X pad buttons are pressure sensitive. It's easier to flip your thumb to the upper left in a hurry? I'm old school, just how I've always done it.
 
I was about to post that. Face buttons have been pressure sensitive like 10 years now.
 
KyleR
I have tried playing GT with L3 but I can't be delicate enough with it, especially for right turns. It's not what I'm good at using and I can't get used to it. However there are a few occasions when I do use it. X1 on Indy for example (all left turns) and the odd sweeping left hander on any other track, just for a change.
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But I use L2/R2.. not for any accuracy reasons, i cant modulate R2 any more than X. I just find it easier on the hands.

And I know for a fact its because of this that I cannot gold the NASCAR special events.
 
Hmm, I guess it's what you are used to. I've never played GT games until GT5 (didn't have a PS2, grew up on Nintendo then Xbox/Xbox 360) and Forza 1 2 and 3 all had trigger setups for gas and stick for steering, so it was natural to set it up this way. I agree that modulation of the triggers isn't great (ps3 triggers...are bleh) but I think it's a lot better than the button. And I haven't ever noticed that they were pressure sensitive. Hmm. I have the PDP real triggers and I've gotten so used to them.

Thanks for the input everyone. Least my DFGT will be here soon.
 
The X for gas [] for brake isn't that big a deal if you adjust your thumb.

I was still using D pad for turning when this game first came out (had been doing so since GT1) but started using L3 on indy and noticed the car was turning more with L3. Dunno if that was just my controller or...

None of this matters in comparison to a wheel setup anyways :)
 
It's not an advantage, but I use X and [] for gas and brake. I just never got comfortable using the analog stick. Just feels too unnatural to me. I'm sure I could get used to it if I tried but every racing game I've ever played for the last 13 years has had the X/[] setup, so why change?

I DO use the left stick for steering though.
 
linkov
evolve or become extinct.

Repositioning throttle and brakes to L2 and R2 not only is relatable to real pedals but also gives you the advantage of always having a finger attending them and lets you drive more aggressively

i.e. this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-foot_braking

No comment on the analog stick, the benefits should be self evident
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I don't think anyone is gonna become extinct by using face buttons and a D-pad, I can hold my own against those using analogue and triggers and sometimes against wheels too. 13/14 years of doing it this way has made me pretty good as racing, compare that to the few years that most have been using wheels.

Ofcourse if someone is as good with analogue and triggers as I am with my preference, they will beat me, hands down, but I personally don't think I am ready to make the leap and I have no intention of doing so until it is forced upon me by the game developers.
 
iNiff
+1

But I use L2/R2.. not for any accuracy reasons, i cant modulate R2 any more than X. I just find it easier on the hands.

And I know for a fact its because of this that I cannot gold the NASCAR special events.
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I use X and [] and I have Gold on all the Nascar Special Events. I find my fingers aren't set up to use L2 and R2 for the throttle and brake so for me it's very uncomfortable. X is my go button and that's the way I like it.
 
I found it very weird uses triggers when i started F1 2010, but i got used to it pretty quick. Then GT5 came out and i went back to x and [], after this thread i think i might try out the triggers again.

i want to get a wheel, but with the G27 being out of stock and the thrustmaster coming out i'm not sure what i'll get.
 
I know its probably weird but its just my preference. I use the right stick for throttle and R2 for brakes and the D-pad for steering. I've always wanted to swtich to the left stick for steering but I'm so used to the D-pad.
 
I as many others started playing GT along time ago. Just can't change setup... So D-pad and X Square...
 
I use Square and X for as long as I can remember... I have the DFGT wheel but haven't got anything to mount it on yet!
 
I was wondering this same question myself not long ago, my older brother steers with L3 but uses the face buttons for brake and accelerate while i use L3 for steering and R3 for throttle and brake control. I find it gives me the precise level of control i need although I am truly truly terrible with the FGT

Triggers are shift up and shift down in my family,
 
I have always used square and circle but did make the switch to analogue for steering on the PS2 games. I can feather the throttle adequately with the button so that is fine by me.

I have the trigger add ons for R2 and L2 but they still don't feel as good to use as the proper triggers on the 360 controller. I have never been a fan of the right analogue for steering so I avoid that at all costs!
 
Sorry for the noob question, but where can you change steering settings in gt5?

Is it on the main screen?

I might give r2/l2 a go, because I see how it may be easier than x/square.
 
Sum1s2pid
Back in the day before dual sticks or wheels, us GT players had to use X and Square buttons and a D-Pad to control the cars in the game. We only had one controller, and we had to share it. Barefoot. In the snow. Uphill both ways. In the dark. And we liked it. Some of us moved on to wheels and such, but a select few still find comfort in their old ways. The disadvantages are many. The only 'real' advantage is familiarity.
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Great post. I miss GT2 man. ;'[
 
Sum1s2pid
Back in the day before dual sticks or wheels, us GT players had to use X and Square buttons and a D-Pad to control the cars in the game. We only had one controller, and we had to share it. Barefoot. In the snow. Uphill both ways. In the dark. And we liked it. Some of us moved on to wheels and such, but a select few still find comfort in their old ways. The disadvantages are many. The only 'real' advantage is familiarity.
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Well said, I used to use x, [] and D-pad. Now I learned to use L3 for steering, but still could give up on x and []. Feels like you can push the car to its maximum throttle by pressing the button harder (although makes no difference at certain level). but the R2 button doesn't give that kind of feeling :P
 
GTP_Rodney
Great post. I miss GT2 man. ;'[
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You crazy kids and your GT2... I was talking about GT1. Get off my lawn!

We also didn't have vibrating motors, dual sticks, or new-fangled pressure-sensitive buttons. When we pressed a button, it was all or nothing... go big or go home. I'd like to see these whipper-snappers try and control an 800hp FR back in the day. At a then stunning 30fps.

Actually, no I wouldn't... it was Hell. It was a great day when the Dual Analog Controller was released, that only only better with the Dual Shock.

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Sum1s2pid
You crazy kids and your GT2... I was talking about GT1. Get off my lawn!

We also didn't have vibrating motors, dual sticks, or new-fangled pressure-sensitive buttons. When we pressed a button, it was all or nothing... go big or go home. I'd like to see these whipper-snappers try and control an 800hp FR back in the day. At a then stunning 30fps.

Actually, no I wouldn't... it was Hell. It was a great day when the Dual Analog Controller was released, that only only better with the Dual Shock.

:lol:
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haha I actually had a wheel for my GT2 at one point. Was good fun once I realized how to use it (I think I was like 10 or so).
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D-Pad for steering since its more accurate and sharper than the sticks. For some reason the stick steering is a half a second slower to respond imo.

L2/R2 for Gas and brake....simply for acelleration control the stupid X button can't do and i prefer R2 as gas for all racing games since im used to it. I already phased out of the X button ages ago.
 
I use X as Gas, mainly because I'm so used to it. You can actually balance the throttle surprisingly well with the X button and after some time it's not to bad. I considered the Right analog stick for throttle but you are unable to brake at the same time as accelerating.

Oh, and the L2 and R2 buttons just feel weird to me.
 
I tried using the analog stick for steering. But it doesn't seem to be able to put as much steering lock as when I use the D-pad and so I find that keep under steering on corners that I can easily negotiate at the same speed using the D-pad.

That and I too am used to the "old" set up from GT1 days.
 
"You can't teach an old dog new tricks"

hmmm I partially agree here, i was always d pad and x with driving games, my hand eye coordination worked that way and was the same for most games. That's why i tried and failed with the xbox due to always going for the wrong buttons. GT3 i never used the stick but with GT5 im using it now. I could try using the R triggers but that will mean several hours/days/weeks of getting things wrong. Ive done 75% of the game and i have moved on to online racing so getting use to a new set up is not appealing as mistakes in online races can be difficult to make up. I tried a wheel for 2 days and gave up for the same reason.

i believe you can teach an old dog new tricks but only if they want to and if the rewards are worth it. That then brings into play long and short term gratification.
 
I love X, square, triangle and circle. Though, I use the left joystick (or whatever you call it) for steering. I guess the D-pad means the buttons to the left.
 
If I am not using a wheel, then I use this button format (with R1 and R2 for gears).

For two reasons, Firstly familiarity. I first started using gears in driving games after playing Rage Racer (of all games), as you had to use manual transmission to complete some of the races in that game. This was the default button layout for that game, and it has stuck ever since.

Secondly. I don't hold the pad like most other people (I don't use my thumbs), and it is easier for me to use this button configuration,, plus I can have a finger on every single button that is necessary, reducing response times considerably. 👍
 
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