Why GT 5 is an epic fail.

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Bigbazz
All that does is gives you the false sense of achievement that you are actually skilled, while taking away all the challenge and fun for the guys who are actually pretty decent.
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Isn't that why we play games? If I had McLaren F1, I wouldn't play GT 5. I will just bring it out to the track to drive a real supercar. Realistic false sense of achievement is what GT series is all about.
 
Nerdbuster
I already know that. But how many do you think can really acheive that? GT 5 is supposed to be a game for every hardcore car guys, not a game for a few gifted.
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Hey. Shut up!
This is not the special Olympics.
 
Nerdbuster
Of course, it's A. What X2010 is capable of in the game is beyond how fast humans can control DS3.
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See, you're missing the point of the game then. If you stick a normal person in a F1 car, they'll wreck. Either because their reflexes are too slow, because they don't have the fortitude to carry enough speed through corners to maintain downforce, or because the forces generated just make them sick. Obviously not all of these challenges can be duplicated, but the need to have fast reflexes can be. Some people can gold the challenge with a DS3 controller. Many can't. Just like in like the real world, not all people are equal. That doesn't mean the bar should be lowered to the point that everyone can clear it. It just means you can't do it.
 
Nerdbuster
Isn't that why we play games? If I had McLaren F1, I wouldn't play GT 5. I will just bring it out to the track to drive a real supercar. Realistic false sense of achievement is what GT series is all about.
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Look you don't need to get a gold award to feed your ego to enjoy the game, the challenge is there for the guys who want to be challenged, i dont want my gaming to be easy, if it is easy i will lose interest and move on.

Challenge is important, without challenge there is no purpose to the game. Perhaps the challenge is too much for you to aquire gold, if so that's fine because it was never intended for you, you get the same car reward by setting the bronze time, which is easy.


I set gold in all 3, it was hard, very hard infact, and it took a lot of time and practice. But i enjoyed it and it challenged me, it gave me a sense of accomplishment within the game, this is the best satisfaction that can be aquired from a game for me. Overcoming challenges just as i would in the real world.
 
Nerdbuster
Isn't that why we play games? If I had McLaren F1, I wouldn't play GT 5. I will just bring it out to the track to drive a real supercar. Realistic false sense of achievement is what GT series is all about.
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So your definition is the only correct one, is basically where this is going to go.
Stop making such a big deal of something that is actually pretty inconsequential.


A bigger problem is the inadequacy of the DS3 in GT5 in general, not just for this challenge. Then again, many people don't have a problem at all.
 
Nerdbuster
Of course, it's A. What X2010 is capable of in the game is beyond how fast humans can control DS3.
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I can use the X2010 just fine with a DS3? Yeah, it's called practice
 
Nerdbuster
Ok, recently I've been trying the Vettel challange again, this time with DS3. Because so many of you here were saying how difficult it is with a pad, I had to try and see. And I'm 100% sure, none of those who made this game tested it with DS3 before launch, especially when it comes to the Vettel challenge. Doesn't matter how you can get used to a pad, you can never finish two consecutive successful labs because your fingers get tired and really heart, especially your left thumb. Steering response and throttle adjustment can never be as accurate, quick and smooth as with a wheel. With a pad, I could only bronze them at my best. If I compare level of difficulty, I'll say getting bronze with a pad is like getting silver with a wheel. Considering most of us have DS3 only, this challenge shouldn't be in the game. This is a disaster. All companies put their pre-products on all kinds of tests so that they can correct any potential problems before they bring them out to the market. And PD didn't do what is so basic. Now with the 1.06 updates, PD increased bronze time a lot. And what's next? Increasing gold time to bronze time? Is this their way of admitting mistakes? I'm not even sure what they've been doing for the last five god damn years. I see a decade of reputation fading away at once.
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AMEN :yuck:

Men, you already got a X1 by get Bronze, what you want more? let Silver and Gold for Wheel Drivers.

FAIL THREAD.
 
Bigbazz
Look you don't need to get a gold award to feed your ego to enjoy the game, the challenge is there for the guys who want to be challenged, i dont want my gaming to be easy, if it is easy i will lose interest and move on.

Challenge is important, without challenge there is no purpose to the game. Perhaps the challenge is too much for you to aquire gold, if so that's fine because it was never intended for you, you get the same car reward by setting the bronze time, which is easy.


I set gold in all 3, it was hard, very hard infact, and it took a lot of time and practice. But i enjoyed it and it challenged me, it gave me a sense of accomplishment within the game, this is the best satisfaction that can be aquired from a game for me. Overcoming challenges just as i would in the real world.
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Did you do it with a pad? I got all golds with a wheel, but wasn't very satisfying.
 
I got all gold using the DS3. two of the golds I got were before they added steering sensitivity. Now that they have it, the DS3 is as quick as the wheel so long as you know how to use it.
 
Ok, many of you simply don't seem to be understanding my situation. I'm not whining because I'm a DS3 user. I already got all golds with a wheel. I just wanted to see how hard it can be with a pad and found out that it's million times harder than with a wheel. If PD knew this before the release of GT 5, I'm sure they wouldn't have set such a hard time for DS3 users, meaning they haven't tested it with DS3 before releasing. It's a huge mistake.
 
Nerdbuster
Ok, many of you simply don't seem to be understanding my situation. I'm not whining because I'm a DS3 user. I already got all golds with a wheel. I just wanted to see how hard it can be with a pad and found out that it's million times harder than with a wheel. If PD knew this before the release of GT 5, I'm sure they wouldn't have set such a hard time for DS3 users, meaning they haven't tested it with DS3 before releasing. It's a huge mistake.
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Well how are we to know they didn't have a guy at PD that was uber-good with a DS3 and managed to get those times?

A huge mistake is something like soft tires are a lot better than intermediate tires in the rain.

This challenge is more of an annoyance if you let it get to you. But beyond all that, it's just a video game. Video games have their inconsistencies. This challenge might be one of them. But it doesn't make it an epic fail.

The save game glitch before patch 1.06 was an epic fail.
 
Nerdbuster
Ok, many of you simply don't seem to be understanding my situation. I'm not whining because I'm a DS3 user. I already got all golds with a wheel. I just wanted to see how hard it can be with a pad and found out that it's million times harder than with a wheel. If PD knew this before the release of GT 5, I'm sure they wouldn't have set such a hard time for DS3 users, meaning they haven't tested it with DS3 before releasing. It's a huge mistake.
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But they've addressed it by increasing the Bronze times. As has been said, the extra rewards of Silver and Gold are largely personal.
 
Nerdbuster
Ok, many of you simply don't seem to be understanding my situation. I'm not whining because I'm a DS3 user. I already got all golds with a wheel. I just wanted to see how hard it can be with a pad and found out that it's million times harder than with a wheel. If PD knew this before the release of GT 5, I'm sure they wouldn't have set such a hard time for DS3 users, meaning they haven't tested it with DS3 before releasing. It's a huge mistake.
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Skilled DS3 users can get gold.
I can't get gold with DS3.
There must be a mistake.
(Implying I'm a skilled user).

amirite?
 
Maybe they want the hardest challenge in the game to be hard? Man, imagine if some of the whiners these days were playing games in the 90s when there was one difficulty level and if you couldn't beat the game YOU JUST KEPT PRACTICING.
 
Instrumental
I got all gold using the DS3. two of the golds I got were before they added steering sensitivity. Now that they have it, the DS3 is as quick as the wheel so long as you know how to use it.
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I already know that you've done a worderful job. I envy you. But with a pad, I just couldn't keep up the speed I could do with a wheel. Turn in is always a moment late. In case of Suzuka, my best was 2min 15secs with a pad. I don't think I can get any better.:ouch:
 
Surprise, surprise, a driving game is easier to be quick in when you use a wheel and pedals rather than a lump of plastic with a couple of sticks and some buttons!

It's not rocket science.
 
The difference it huge FOR YOU.

Different people can adapt to different input, maybe you just ain't fully comfortable with the pad yet? I've raced with many people on pad who don't seem to be handicapped by the input method.
 
Instrumental
I got all gold using the DS3. two of the golds I got were before they added steering sensitivity. Now that they have it, the DS3 is as quick as the wheel so long as you know how to use it.
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Steering sensitivity is your answer! I personally could not get bronze before the update, and it didn't ruin the game. I am disappointed they allowed the steering sensitivity to be changed (which adjusted the balance between steering wheel and DS3), but ALSO ruined the challenge by throwing X2010's at those that can keep the thing on the road for 2 laps.

I have mine now, but I made sure I achieved the OLD bronze times first and it was a good challenge for my ability with the steering adjustment.
 
I just wanted to see how hard it can be with a pad and found out that it's million times harder than with a wheel.
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Not now that they added steering sensitivity. Once they added that, I turned it up to level 7 and got gold on Suzuka shortly thereafter. Was cranking out very low 2:10 times with a lot more consistency before I got gold as well.
 
Nerdbuster
I don't think I'm a skilled user. And you are missing my point.
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I understand your point:
Nerdbuster
I just wanted to see how hard it can be with a pad and found out that it's million times harder than with a wheel. If PD knew this before the release of GT 5, I'm sure they wouldn't have set such a hard time for DS3 users, meaning they haven't tested it with DS3 before releasing. It's a huge mistake.
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Yes, the target times are easier to achieve with a driving wheel than with the DS3 controller. This is true of any race in the game as a driving wheel allows for a finer degree of control. Nothing worth noting here. This challenge is not unique in that respect.

The point I think you're missing is that this is supposed to be the ultimate car and (I don't think it's an exaggeration to say) this challenge is the ultimate skill test in the game.

It's supposed to be hard. Not everyone is supposed to be able to get a gold. Even with a driving wheel. They created a car that's difficult to drive and set the bar for achieving the gold very high. And that's that. It's been done, so it's clearly possible. It's just difficult. Stop overthinking it.
 
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