Would YOU have waited two more years for GT5?

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Would you have waited two more years for GT5?

  • Yes! I would have waited two more years.

    Votes: 76 35.8%

  • No. I would not have waited two more years.

    Votes: 136 64.2%
  • Total voters
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Waited? You mean like not played any video game for 2 years until it was released?

I play what is available to me. Before GT5 came out I got the itch to play a race game after not playing one since NFS:PU. I picked up a used PS2 at a flea market and used copy of GT4. It was fun. Then GT5 came out and I picked up a PS3 last christmas to play it. I'm not waiting for anything...I just play what is available to me when I have the time.

My life does not revolve around video game releases and I don't feel short changed for having to wait 1 week for an expansion pack. It'll come...life goes on, enjoy what you have.
 
No, by then the PlayStation 4 would be announced with a price. I love what Polyphony is doing with the patch updates and seasonal events.
 
What kind of question is this, makes no sense.
 
robbo6
Don't get me wrong, I love the detail. BUT, due to the amount of time it takes to model a premium car i think that with PDs limited staff it was a mistake, especially (as I said) the interiors, cockpit is fine, but who really cares about how accurate the rear seats are?!! It was all about resource managment with the GT5 project and I think that PD couldn't do everything they wanted especially with Sony meddling.
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Don't forget they can, and they WILL, use the premium cars on the PS4.
But not as standards, they simply will not change the detail for the PS4. Remember when Kaz said the premiums fit better on the PS4?

Really, I believe when Kaz realized what PS3 could do polygon-wise for the cars, when other areas are sacrifised (track detail, textures, resolution, framerate, draw distance, so basically EVERYTHING LOL), he decided to model the cars already for the PS4 also. That was a genious move. So when GT6/7 launches 2014/2015 with the PS4, they will have over 500 premiums from the start. 👍 (with true next-gen (PS4) quality=better shaders, lighting and **** but same poly-count.)
 
Question is kind of silly because what am I going to do if they don't release it? Kill myself? Bomb PD or assisnate Kaz?

Of course I would wait becuase it's not like there is any other option... it would have just been an aggravating process.

However I agree with the sentiment that it wouldn't have made things better... GT5 would have still released with a bunch of half finished features or been pushed to PS4 because ultimately I think Kaz and PD are not good a project management and GT has grown beyond their abilities.

Alex p.
Don't forget they can, and they WILL, use the premium cars on the PS4.
But not as standards, they simply will not change the detail for the PS4. Remember when Kaz said the premiums fit better on the PS4?
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I really believe that was not as much a literal statement and more of a figurative one as in "we are having to pull every trick we know to make this work wheras on the PS4 stuff of this level will be the norm".

Sort of like when you overload a car to go camping and say "this really would have been better suited for a truck".

Doesn't mean you did truck work with your car, it means it would have been no problem for a truck.

I remember all the future proofing talk from GT3 and 4 and ultimlately there is no such thing as future proof and there is every possibility that Premium cars will lack something come PS4.
 
I has bought PS3 just to play GT5 ... and I has waited a long time to be sure that GT5 was finally launched, but I was very near to give up and buy "the evil combo" (360 + FM3) :D
 
Devedander
I really believe that was not as much a literal statement and more of a figurative one as in "we are having to pull every trick we know to make this work wheras on the PS4 stuff of this level will be the norm".

Sort of like when you overload a car to go camping and say "this really would have been better suited for a truck".

Doesn't mean you did truck work with your car, it means it would have been no problem for a truck.

I remember all the future proofing talk from GT3 and 4 and ultimlately there is no such thing as future proof and there is every possibility that Premium cars will lack something come PS4.
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You could be right sure.

But there's a but:

The ingame cars are like 200k polys max, definately less than photomode models, so if they'll use photo-mode models as ingame models on the PS4, and upgrade them with new shader effects (texture resolution, lighting complexity etc.). This will make the cars look good enough I believe, no one should really complain by then I guess and would it really make sense for them to make EVEN more detailed cars? Which would take like 1-1.5 YEARS each for one person to model? I don't think so.
 
It's a rather pointless question, but I'm happy with GT5 even with the crazy delays we had to face, and I appreciate that PD have worked on patches and DLC.
If we had waited 7 years for the release, an entire generation of kids would have grown up not even having heard about Gran Turismo. At least we had some Prolouge to play around with for the time being.
 
Trust me, we all would have gone crazy and become frustrated.
 
No because I'd be in med school by then and won't have time for GT.
 
Alex p.
You could be right sure.

But there's a but:

The ingame cars are like 200k polys max, definately less than photomode models, so if they'll use photo-mode models as ingame models on the PS4, and upgrade them with new shader effects (texture resolution, lighting complexity etc.). This will make the cars look good enough I believe, no one should really complain by then I guess and would it really make sense for them to make EVEN more detailed cars? Which would take like 1-1.5 YEARS each for one person to model? I don't think so.
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That's the problem... everyone focuses on polygons as if thats the only thing that will change...

GT4 cars were super high poly counts for the time (photo mode models especially) but guess what? No interiors modeled... that right there killed any kind of future proofing.

So the assumption that GT5's high poly cars make them future proof is flawed again becasue it focuses on just that one factor... what if the future allows for things like advanced damage model of an actual chasis and includes thickness and strengths of different materials? GT5 cars have none of that recorded.

What if advanced features like modeling actual weight distribution based on every part is used? What if damage actually skews weight in real time? GT5 cars do not have every part weighed, just overall car weight with possibly some overall weight distribution info.

How about undercarage wind resistance based on actual part shape? Not just cars that have a flat textured bottom...

And the assumption it would take so long to model is also just a guess... PD seems to do things the really hard way which takes a LONG time... but laser scanning has come along and who knows what techniques are coming down the pipes for the future? Plus pretty much every new car has really detailed computer modeled version from the factory already... that would save you a LOT of work.

See there is a reason almost nothing is ever future proof... you can't account for what might get invented in the future.

Graphics cards are never future proof no matter how fast the GPU because a new shader comes along or physix is the next big thing.

RAM is never future proof no matter how fast because a new architecture comes out... remember when DDR first came along?

4Ghz P4 processor? Oh look dual core...

8 USB ports, 2 Esata and 6 SATA ports? That's nice, does it have USB3?


Future proof is always a joke. GT5 cars are no more future proof because of their poly count than GT4 cars were.
 
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Well, I still don't have GT5, simply because I'm not done with the 4th yet, so I can wait.
 
I would much rather them release a half-ass game, and slowly update it over 2 years, than to just wait 2 years and end up releasing what would be the same product

Because then, albeit half-ass, i have something to play.
 
For everyone that says "no" to this question, what does that mean exactly? "I wouldn't have waited another two years..."


So what exactly would you do instead? What does "not waiting for GT5" look like? What, you'd play other racing games? You all do that now, even though the game DID come out.


If GT5 was not out yet, you would still be waiting, you'd just be unhappy. There's no way around waiting for the next release to come out. Think about it, silly question.
 
You ask that like as if you actually have an option. You can't exactly walk in there and steal it and all you guys saying no, you telling me you wouldn't buy it then? If not why not? It's not like the long wait would make the game worse, in fact it would be better. If you want the game now for whatever reasons, then aren't those reasons still going to be there in 2 years?
 
Sach_F1
For everyone that says "no" to this question, what does that mean exactly? "I wouldn't have waited another two years..."


So what exactly would you do instead? What does "not waiting for GT5" look like? What, you'd play other racing games? You all do that now, even though the game DID come out.


If GT5 was not out yet, you would still be waiting, you'd just be unhappy. There's no way around waiting for the next release to come out. Think about it, silly question.
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I think the implication is supposed to be regarding whether they would move on to Forza instead or something along those lines.

eVilate
It's not like the long wait would make the game worse, in fact it would be better.
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That's not something that can be determined.
 
seanneedscar
I would much rather them release a half-ass game, and slowly update it over 2 years, than to just wait 2 years and end up releasing what would be the same product

Because then, albeit half-ass, i have something to play.
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What if they charge you for the pieces they give you during that two years on top of the original price of the game?
 
If we had to wait another 2 years I would have sold my PS3 and bought an Xbox 360 to play FM
 
Toronado
That's not something that can be determined.
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Well is the game much better now that it was at release? I think so. Therefore to me that's proof the game would have been much better given another 2 years.
 
Option C - Two years less without half the filler.💡
 
eVilate
Well is the game much better now that it was at release? I think so. Therefore to me that's proof the game would have been much better given another 2 years.
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It doesn't work that way. The two years he quoted was in regards to the stuff he knew he wanted in the game but couldn't implement when he made the quote. Two more years of development (actual development, not rushing to patch things in that the game never should have shipped without) and who knows what amazing new feature Kaz would have wanted implemented into the game before the two years was up. Feature creep does not get better with more time.
 
I wasn't referring to what Kaz said. I just said the game would have been much better given another 2 years, based off how much better it is now. If it's this much better after a year, it's natural to assume that it would have been better after 2 years more in development.
 
Yes i would have waited because i wanted every vehicle in the game to be premium like they said it would been
 
eVilate
I wasn't referring to what Kaz said. I just said the game would have been much better given another 2 years, based off how much better it is now. If it's this much better after a year, it's natural to assume that it would have been better after 2 years more in development.
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It doesn't work that way. Actually read the posts you respond to before you respond to them.
 
This is a tough question to answer. I mean, I've wanted to get a PlayStation 3 regardless as well as getting GT5. The one thing I link to is that GT5 could have had the FIA GT1 World Championship and DTM. If it's worth delaying a game just that bit more to make GT5 better, I'd be okay with it. More people would fear that getting a game the magnitude of GT5 would make this game more like "Duke Nukem Forever," which I still remembered in development when I was a 9th Grader back in 1997. What do you want- the best-possible experience, or the best-possible experience right now but made better through additional content?

It's tough to answer because I wouldn't have wanted a PS3 had GT5 not been released. Gran Turismo 5 is about to be one year old next month, so if we waited a bit longer, could this big game be even bigger? Even better? I probably couldn't wait too much longer for GT5. Again- tough for me to answer, but I voted No.
 
Even if PD waited another 2 years to release GT5 it still wouldn't have been finished.
 
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